Am I the only one that finds the PF cleric a bit pointless? (long)


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Thanks for the info. New Channeling feats sounds nice.

Any new GOOD healing spells at 7th or/and 8th spell level?
Any new good Cleric spells at 7th and 8th level?

Shadow Lodge

I pretty much figured that after the APG and the many previews all about Wizards and Magi. Glad I didn't preorder this one after all.

Scarab Sages

Quick amendment - Clerics can take Druid domains or Inquisitions if they want. Though Inquisitions have no spells.


Drillboss D wrote:
Quick amendment - Clerics can take Druid domains or Inquisitions if they want. Though Inquisitions have no spells.

So to be clear the cleric receives:

New archetypes
New channel options (not feat required just options to replace parts of channeling?)
New domains
New druid domains
New inquisitions
New spells

Hm. Seems like enough to a lot to me.

Scarab Sages

Abraham spalding wrote:
Drillboss D wrote:
Quick amendment - Clerics can take Druid domains or Inquisitions if they want. Though Inquisitions have no spells.

So to be clear the cleric receives:

New archetypes
New channel options (not feat required just options to replace parts of channeling?)
New domains
New druid domains
New inquisitions
New spells

Hm. Seems like enough to a lot to me.

New archetypes - Yes

New channel options (not feat required just options to replace parts of channeling?) - Yes
New domains - No, at least not of its own
New druid domains - Yes, if Nature oriented
New inquisitions - Yes, but these are really suboptimal for a Cleric
New spells - Yes


Drillboss D wrote:


New archetypes - Yes
New channel options (not feat required just options to replace parts of channeling?) - Yes
New domains - No, at least not of its own
New druid domains - Yes, if Nature oriented
New inquisitions - Yes, but these are really suboptimal for a Cleric
New spells - Yes

Niceness. Thank you for the information. I can't wait to get my copy -- I'm honestly not fond of clerics at all (no surprise there) but I like options.

Jon Brazer Enterprises

The cleric's alternate channeling abilities are pretty much what I was thinking of. So unless I come up with enough for an entire Book of the Faithful, I'm not going to be doing anything. I doubt there is anything really missing given the thorough look the alternate channeling appears to have.

So UM gets a thumbs up in my book.


Just glanced through the pdf for Ultimate Magic. Initial impressions are positive, though I still need to read the details. If they work, the different options, especially the variant channeling, would be a big boon to the flavor of the class without adding too much power.

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