Barbarian - Out-buffing a Bard


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So I asked questions about this in the rules forum but there was little interaction. So I am going to instead put the idea forward as a party build in the advice forum. Correct me anywhere things seem incorrect and please point to the rules that clarify my mistakes.

ferocious mount + greater:

Ferocious Mount (Ex): While raging and mounted, the barbarian’s mount also gains the benefits of rage (including greater rage and mighty rage) as long as the barbarian is mounted or adjacent to it. While her mount is raging in this way, she must spend one additional round of rage per round. She can elect not to pay this cost, in which case her mount does not rage.

Ferocious Mount, Greater (Ex): While raging and mounted, the barbarian’s mount gains the benefits of any rage powers that are constant in effect when the barbarian is raging. It does not gain the benefit of any rage powers that require actions to activate, even if they are free actions. A barbarian must have the ferocious mount rage power to select this rage power. A barbarian must be at least 8th level to select this rage power.

So if we have a barbarian with ferocious mount, greater ferocious mount and any number of useful rage powers that provide constant benefits,

He bestows his rage and these rage powers on his mount if he is riding it or adjacent to it(though only his rage when just adjacent).

Now a party with any number of mountable creatures and characters could benefit greatly from this as it hands access to a +4-12 str bonus(if the players are half orcs and have amplified rage), +4-8 con, pounce, claws, bite attacks, added energy damage, and other bonuses to the mounts adjacent to the barbarian get.

I can forsee a party that has barbarian, druid, PaO'd fighter or ranger, summoner.

Even if we limit it to 1 buffable target per barbarian, we can easily go 2 barbarians, 1 druid, 1 summoner.

Early on, the druid and the summoner's eidolon benefit from barbarian buffs while the barbarian gets an incomparably strong and survivable mount. At the very end, a barbarian can ride the summoner while he is in twin eidolon form. Also later on, a fighter in the party can benefit from this by being PaO'd or otherwise polymorphed into a ridable form.

Furthermore this does not even need to involve the entire party. Only 2 party members need work together on their character design. Or 1 character if you aim for leadership.

Now this isn't insane, but I find this a much more interesting way to utilize ferocious mount than how one usually does since barbarian mount options are so limited.


Well since the text specifically notes the Barbarian's mount, not a creature, I would not allow it to be given to anybody except the mount the Barbarian is actively riding, or a single creature she designates as her mount, which has to be mountable by the Barbarian. And unless said mount was large enough to support more than one creature, I'd say you couldn't designate it your mount.

And no, elves don't count as mountable!


Talynonyx wrote:
And no, elves don't count as mountable!

They do if they're stuffed.


Talynonyx wrote:

Well since the text specifically notes the Barbarian's mount, not a creature, I would not allow it to be given to anybody except the mount the Barbarian is actively riding, or a single creature she designates as her mount, which has to be mountable by the Barbarian. And unless said mount was large enough to support more than one creature, I'd say you couldn't designate it your mount.

And no, elves don't count as mountable!

Well I do mention that the creatures must be mountable. So any long large or huge creatures, possibly larger earth elementals(since their form isn't entirely specified), larger dragons. So if party members can turn into these sorts of things then they could be designated as the barbarians mount.


one word (druid)


Alakqualyn wrote:
one word (druid)

God yeah, the barbarian is a druid's best friend now with these bonuses.

Second word, dragon.

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