I have a question regarding Brewing Potions, more specifically which spells that can be brewed into potions. I've gotten into my head somewhere that you cannot brew potions out of spells with the "Target: You, Range: Personal" spells. For examlple, the Stonefist spell from APG. This is a handy spell for a wizard, but could become really powerful at the hands of someone else. Are you allowed to brew it?
Also, how would brewing a spell such as burning hands or fireball into a potion/scroll work? Is it allowed at all?
@ Gentleman,
On page 551 of Core:
"Spells with a range of personal cannot be made into potions."
On page 119 of Core:
"You can create magic potions.
Prerequisite: Caster level 3rd.
Benefit: You can create a potion of any 3rd-level or lower
spell that you know and that targets one or more creatures.
Brewing a potion takes 2 hours if its base price is 250 gp
or less, otherwise brewing a potion takes 1 day for each
1,000 gp in its base price. When you create a potion, you
set the caster level, which must be sufficient to cast the
spell in question and no higher than your own level. To
brew a potion, you must use up raw materials costing one
half this base price. See the magic item creation rules in
Chapter 15 for more information.
When you create a potion, you make any choices that
you would normally make when casting the spell. Whoever
drinks the potion is the target of the spell."
Scrolls are allowed of any spell, but not potions nor wands.
Hope this helps.
Justt my 2 cp.
Righto, then you could technically make a potion of fireball. Except then you would be the target of the fireball, and it'd explode around you. Or just explode inside you.
That could be useful if you are immune to fire, or wish to add a bit of deviousness to a dragons hoard with "trapped" potions
Righto, then you could technically make a potion of fireball. Except then you would be the target of the fireball, and it'd explode around you. Or just explode inside you.
That could be useful if you are immune to fire, or wish to add a bit of deviousness to a dragons hoard with "trapped" potions
Or if you've got a high bluff or slight of hand and want to convince someone else to drink it.
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Page 551 Core Rulebook, under creating potions:
"The imbiber of the potion is both the caster and the target. Spells with a range of personal cannot be made into potions."
As per the above entry, a potion of fireball would target the imbiber of the potion. Drink it and get fireballed.
For burning hands, I'd probably say that you are the target of the cone, which emits from your fingertips. I wouldn't want to be standing behind you :)
That's for potions specifically.
From the potions section on page 477, we see a few more requirements.
"It can duplicate the effect of a spell of up to 3rd level that has a casting time of less than 1 minute and targets one or more creatures."
So, a valid spell cannot have a range of personal. Additionally, a valid spell must have a casting time of less than 1 minute, and it must target one or more creatures. And it cannot be of a spell higher than 3rd level.
Also, as a guide to what could possibly be made into a potion, check out the Game Mastery Guide on page 124 &125. I do not see a potion of Fireball on either list. Understand that some of the potions listed are actually oils, as their creation is very similar. For example, Animate Rope, Hold Portal, Warp Wood, Wood Shape, and others are actually oils.
You can't make a potion of fireball. Read the section in the magic section about aiming a spell. Some spells have targets, others do not. A spell must have a target line entry that affects one or more people to be made into a potion. Fireball has no target line entry.
Does that mean you can still have a potion of magic missile?
Likewise you can have a potion of sleep and trick someone into drinking it. Potion of Inflict Serious Wounds would be a nasty suprise.
...err you can't have a potion that doesn't have a target. Sleep doesn't have a target, it has an area. Just like Fireball. It needs to literally say Target: blah blah blah.
School enchantment (compulsion) [mind-affecting]; Level bard 1, sorcerer/wizard 1
Casting Time 1 round
Components V, S, M (fine sand, rose petals, or a live cricket)
Range medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Area one or more living creatures within a 10-ft.-radius burst
Duration 1 min./level
Saving Throw Will negates; Spell Resistance yes
A sleep spell causes a magical slumber to come upon 4 HD of creatures. Creatures with the fewest HD are affected first. Among creatures with equal HD, those who are closest to the spell's point of origin are affected first. HD that are not sufficient to affect a creature are wasted. Sleeping creatures are helpless. Slapping or wounding awakens an affected creature, but normal noise does not. Awakening a creature is a standard action (an application of the aid another action). Sleep does not target unconscious creatures, constructs, or undead creatures.
Emphasis mine.
Seems a Potion of Sleep is plausible...this would have to be handled on a case by case basis.
Seems a Potion of Sleep is plausible...this would have to be handled on a case by case basis.
Potion of sleep would not be possible under the strict RAW since there is no target of the spell. Sleep is an area burst spell as you target an area not a creature with the spell.
The spell would affect one or more creatures in the area.
Again, technically it would have to say:
Target: One or More living Creatures in order to be made a Potion.