Dealing with Pregnancy


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In my last campaign, the PCs came across a young king that was apparently very fond of women - several women, at that. Attracted to one of the PCs, he... propositioned her. Having her own motives for conceiving a royal heir, she went through with it. And so, with a few percentage rolls made up on the spot by our last GM, now we have a week-pregnant PC.

Now, the GM Hat is back on me. This had all started as a joke, but I saw that it had some definite roleplay potential - but the roleplaying isn't a part of it. Pregnancy is definitely not in the Core rules anywhere, and it's apparent that within a month or so, the PC will be physically affected.

Her character isn't the type that would retire just because she is pregnant, so obviously the child will be in constant danger. So, what kind of effects should pregnancy eventually have on the PC? Anybody ever have something similar happen in your campaign?

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Seeing that my wife is pregnant and only in week 9 at the moment I actually don't understand how anyone can be a decent adventurer while being in the first three months.

Outwards it does not alter much, she lost a few pounds but is now gaining a few pounds the big thing though is the not visible, nauseau, constant nauseau that lightens up a bit if she eats something, a piece of fruit or so is enough for a few hours. Couple that with complete fatigueu after going shopping. This is walking to the grocery store, picking everything and for her just walking back (I'm the mule). After a full days of work cause she still works she falls asleep on the couch.

IF you're even unlucky like my wife then you can add another thing to that and that's stomach cramps, in a way us men can't comprehend, which our gynaecologist said is normal due to not seeing anything wrong with the pregnancy. It's her womb expanding. Most women only have this a few days or so. Still she got ordered two weeks of bed rest cause this pain could really cripple her and make her unable to do her work. (She attends and helps senior citizens in a nursing home).

But then again, our gynaecologist also said that pregnancies differ from woman to woman.


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According to the BoEF (if you don't know it, i will not spell it out) pregnant adventurers only begin taking penalties in the second trimester, and at that point they are rather steep. First trimester, no penalties. Second trimester, a -2 to DEX, apparently reflecting poor balance and reaction time from being... awkward, and at the third trimester another -2 to DEX for a total of -4 DEX, which yes, can inhibit an adventurer.

My PC in my Kingmaker campaign has recently become pregnant herself. She is more worried about the possible effects of a strange patch of flowers that curse anyone who touches them, and our fiendish sub-bosses' influence on her pregnancy than anything else. That said, her cohort is a paladin, so when she can no longer adventure, there will be another in her place pushing her agenda within party.

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Here’s what an expecting mother can expect during pregnancy. Good luck. :)

First Trimester:

Spoiler:
  • Tender breasts. Increased hormone production may make your breasts unusually sensitive.
  • Bouts of nausea. Many women have queasiness, nausea or vomiting in early pregnancy — probably due to normal hormonal changes. Nausea tends to be worse in the morning, but it can last all day.
  • Unusual fatigue. You may feel tired as your body prepares to support the pregnancy. Your heart will pump faster and harder, and your pulse will quicken.
  • Increased urination. You may need to urinate more often as your enlarging uterus presses on your bladder. The same pressure may cause you to leak urine when sneezing, coughing or laughing.
  • Heartburn and constipation. During first trimester pregnancy, the movements that push swallowed food from your esophagus into your stomach are slower. Your stomach also takes longer to empty. This slowdown gives nutrients more time to be absorbed into your bloodstream and reach your baby. Unfortunately, it may also lead to heartburn and constipation.
  • Dizziness. Normal circulatory changes in early pregnancy may leave you feeling a little dizzy. Stress, fatigue and hunger also may play a role.

Second Trimester:

Spoiler:
  • Larger breasts. Stimulated by estrogen and progesterone, the milk-producing glands inside your breasts get larger during second trimester pregnancy. Additional fat also may accumulate in your breasts. Although some of the initial breast tenderness may improve, nipple tenderness may continue throughout the pregnancy.
  • Growing belly. As your uterus becomes heavier and expands to make room for the baby, your abdomen expands — sometimes rapidly. Expect to gain up to 4 pounds (nearly 2 kilograms) a month until the end of your pregnancy.
  • Braxton Hicks contractions. Your uterus may start contracting to build strength for the big job ahead. You may feel these warm-ups, called Braxton Hicks contractions, in your lower abdomen and groin. They're usually weak and come and go unpredictably.
  • Skin changes. As blood circulation to your skin increases, certain areas of your skin may become darker, such as the skin around your nipples, parts of your face and the line that runs from your navel to your pubic bone. Your skin may also become more sensitive to the sun.
  • Stretch marks. You may notice pink, red or purple streaks along your abdomen, breasts, upper arms, buttocks or thighs during second trimester pregnancy. Your stretching skin may also be itchy.
  • Nasal and gum problems. As pregnancy increases your circulation, more blood flows through your body's mucous membranes. This causes the lining of your nose and airway to swell, which can restrict airflow and lead to snoring, congestion and nosebleeds. Increased blood circulation can also soften your gums, which may cause minor bleeding when you brush or floss your teeth.
  • Dizziness. Your blood vessels dilate in response to pregnancy hormones. Until your blood volume expands to fill them, your blood pressure will fall and you may experience occasional dizziness.
  • Leg cramps. Pressure from your uterus on the veins returning blood from your legs may cause leg cramps, especially at night.
  • Shortness of breath. Your lungs are processing more air than they did before your pregnancy. This allows your blood to carry more oxygen to your placenta and the baby — and may leave you breathing slightly faster and feeling short of breath.
  • Vaginal discharge. You may notice a thin, white vaginal discharge. This acidic discharge is thought to help suppress the growth of potentially harmful bacteria or yeast.
  • Bladder and kidney infections. Hormonal changes slow the flow of urine, and your expanding uterus may get in the way — both factors that increase the risk of bladder and kidney infections.

Third Trimester:

Spoiler:
  • Backaches. As your baby continues to gain weight, pregnancy hormones relax the joints between the bones in your pelvic area. These changes can be tough on your back. Hip pain is common, too.
  • Shortness of breath. You may get winded easily as your uterus expands beneath your diaphragm, the muscle just below your lungs. This may improve when the baby settles deeper into your pelvis before delivery.
  • Heartburn. During third trimester pregnancy, your growing uterus may push your stomach out of its normal position, which can contribute to heartburn.
  • Spider veins, varicose veins and hemorrhoids. Increased blood circulation may cause small reddish spots that sprout tiny blood vessels on your face, neck or arms, especially if you have fair skin. Blue or reddish lines beneath the surface of the skin (varicose veins) also may appear, particularly in the legs. Varicose veins in your rectum (hemorrhoids) are another possibility.
  • Continued breast growth. By now, you may have an additional 2 pounds (nearly 1 kilogram) of breast tissue. As delivery approaches, your nipples may start leaking colostrum — the yellowish fluid that will nourish your baby during the first few days of life.
  • Frequent urination. As your baby moves deeper into your pelvis, you'll feel more pressure on your bladder. You may find yourself urinating more often, even during the night. This extra pressure may also cause you to leak urine — especially when you laugh, cough or sneeze.
  • Braxton Hicks contractions. These contractions are warm-ups for the real thing. They're usually weak and come and go unpredictably. True labor contractions get longer, stronger and closer together.
  • Weight gain. By your due date, you may weigh 25 to 35 pounds (about 11 to 16 kilograms) more than you did before pregnancy. Your baby accounts for some of the weight gain, but so do the placenta, amniotic fluid, larger breasts and uterus, extra fat stores, and increased blood and fluid volume.
  • Vaginal discharge. Potentially heavy vaginal discharge is common at the end of pregnancy.
  • Swelling. As your growing uterus puts pressure on the veins that return blood from your feet and legs, swollen feet and ankles may become an issue. At the same time, swelling in your legs, arms or hands may place pressure on nerves, causing tingling or numbness. Fluid retention and dilated blood vessels may leave your face and eyelids puffy, especially in the morning.

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Ironicly Connie of 4 Wind Fantasy Gaming recently did a 3 part blog series about this very topic over at Geek Girls Dreem. You can find a link to her author link with all her articles HERE.

it was a interesting read and you might find it helpful.

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How is babby PC formed?

But seriously, in a fantasy setting with many working, adventuring women and access to magic...

Someone else had the idea that some mage, somewhere, would hit on the idea of an artificial womb. Said item would likely be fueled partially by a life link with the mother, which also maintains a sympathetic link between the two. Her child(ren) would be displaced into the device, until it was time to be born from the artificial womb or the mother herself.

The lifelink would possibly incur some light penalties of some sort from time to time, but that would be it. If the mother died, the mage, priest, or whoever was watching over the device could switch its life link to another source within a certain time limit.

As for the cost and caster levels involved, no clue.


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well, if you guys are round robin gming, couldn't you just make the next game a yearish later? Problem solved? You can work out what she did during that time in the background?

To Mikaze:
a womb of holding?

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jlord wrote:


To Mikaze:
a womb of holding?

I've gone down that dark road once in another forum and I'm not going there again.

Never again.


I recall spell in Gurps Biotech that allowed "transfer" of unborn child to surogate mother ala Beastmaster movie. Might be useful to develop such spells for Pathfinder.

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You must follow the rules about parasites (lol). You can damage with venoms and similar things but not with weapons or magic.(maybe some kind of magic could damage her.)


Gabriel Albasombria wrote:
You must follow the rules about parasites (lol). You can damage with venoms and similar things but not with weapons or magic.(maybe some kind of magic could damage her.)

Wait... You mean that remove disease can be used as abortive?! Gross... From now on, herbal remedies for pregnant women only :/

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jlord wrote:

To Mikaze:

a womb of holding?
Mikaze wrote:

I've gone down that dark road once in another forum and I'm not going there again.

Never again.

I think many accidental pregnancies in a fantasy realm would be avoidable, if the males made more frequent use of the party's portable hole.


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A baby puts a heavy strain on a woman's body. But don't forgot you are talking about an adventuring woman here. One that can take a blow from a sword without breaking a sweat (well depends on her level and what class, but I assume she has a few levels under her belt).
So she would be able to continue adventuring.
I like the idea with splitting it in trimesters as some previous posters have done it. This is what I'd give her after a few minutes of thinking.

1. Trimester:
-2 penalty on saves against effects that cause the following conditions: fatigued, exhausted, nauseated, sickened.
+2 moral bonus on saves against fear effects (nothing is more dangerous than a mother protecting her children)

2. Trimester:
Penalty and bonus on saves increase to 3.
-2 Dexterity
Carrying capacity is halved.
Speed reduced by 5 feet.
Armor doesn't fit as well anymore (increasing the armor check penalty by 2)

3. Trimester:
Penalty and bonus on saves increase to 4.
-6 Dexterity (-4 that were meantioned seems a bit too weak. but that depends on the race. I can imagine a Dwarven woman (who are very used to wearing heavy armor) to be less restricted)
Carrying capacity quartered.
Speed halved.
+2 moral bonus against enchantments (since there are now two minds in one body a spell that tampers with the mind could get less effective)
Normal armor doesn't fit at all anymore. You'd need a custom armor.

So a highly pregnant character will be strongly restriced, but that is to be expected.
The real problem I think is how to handle negative effects (like damage, energy drain, diseases etc). How do they influence the child? What if she is reduced to negative hitpoints? Is the baby at negative too?


Thanks for the input! I had thought of splitting things into trimesters, that definitely seems to be the way of doing things.

As you said, I'm not sure of how to deal with how the child would be affected from certain effects. I suppose I could always stat it out with class levels in Fetus (I'm joking). And then there's always the fear that some goblin will run out of nowhere and goblin punch her.

Magic is always something to consider, but I'd want to tone down the cheese as much as possible. So no, as another PC put it, questing for the Golden Womb or whatever the heck he called it. The other PCs (evil) probably wouldn't go through those lengths anyway.

As it is now, I'll see if she'll survives for up to 80-90 days in-game for the first trimester, and ask if she wants to just roll another character while the first is on "maternal leave."


Mahorfeus wrote:
And then there's always the fear that some goblin will run out of nowhere and goblin punch her.

Oh man, I'm going straight to hell for dusting this one off. (SFW, but very insensitive.)


Mahorfeus wrote:
...and ask if she wants to just roll another character while the first is on "maternal leave."

Yeah, that would be my advice. I personally would suggest maternal leave even during the first trimester, just to protect the baby. Did you ever read the Dragonlance Chronicles? When Goldmoon found out that she was pregnant, she told the rest of the party that she had to quit.

There's an even better story. (Since Mahorfeus got satisfactory answers, I don't feel so bad about threadjacking now.) Robert E. Howard wrote a Conan story which mentioned that two of Conan's friends were a young man and a young woman who loved each other. Conan had gotten into a fight by protecting the woman from some other man who was trying to have his way with her, and Conan had to run from the law.

Years later, when Roy Thomas started writing Conan the Barbarian comics for Marvel, he expounded upon this, detailing how that young man and young woman met and fell in love, and how Conan met them both.

More years later, I was reading the Savage Sword of Conan comics, also written by Roy Thomas, because I was looking for ideas for inspiration for fantasy RPG adventures. I saw that Roy Thomas followed up on that young woman. Conan was looking for stuck for ideas of how to pursue his quest, and Roy Thomas found an interesting "railroading" solution: That young woman happened to find Conan, and begged him to rescue the man she loved. Conan agreed, saying "let's go." The woman said "I can't go," and stepped into the light, revealing that she was pregnant. So Conan rescued the young man alone. When he did so, and mentioned that he was stuck for ideas as to how to pursue his own quest, the young man piped up "I heard something about that," and gave Conan a rumor to pursue. The main story then proceeded smoothly.

When I read that, I thought "Wow! What a great idea!" A former PC, who is now pregnant, would make a great "employer" for a party. If you're ever looking for a plot hook, or want to railroad the PCs, that would be a fun solution.


Surely any midwife worth her weight will have some spells to ease the nausea and balance issues which should, effectively, eliminate the early penalties.


CourtFool wrote:
Surely any midwife worth her weight will have some spells to ease the nausea and balance issues which should, effectively, eliminate the early penalties.

Perhaps, but can she cast mage armor and barkskin with permanency on the child?


Why not go easy and use the penalties for age categories?


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Although it's true that pregnant women can suffer from a wide variety of uncomfortable, painful or outright debilitating symptoms during their pregnancies, maybe it'd be useful to acknowledge that the game system we're using purposefully ignores many debilitating conditions such as injury, pain, obesity or what have you.

I'm just saying, if an armoured fighter can continue to fight without penalty after having been shot full of arrows and run-through twice with a greatsword, it doesn't seem a stretch for a female character to ignore cramps, tiredness, weight gain or bouts of nausea for the sake of game convenience.

If it really concerns you, simply have a 1,000 gp belt of maternity crafted for her which magically does away with any game-mechanic issues that might arise from a pregnancy; the baby is safe no matter what happens and the mother gets to keep adventuring as normal.


Many metaphysical types regularly suggest that using magic on a forming child is a very bad idea for many of the same reasons that we are so careful about what drugs are given to pregnant women.

As a GM you are entering very difficult territory -- I would suggest a talk with the player involved with some material about actual pregnancies and what the player wants to be able to do.

While pregnancy as a whole has some "generalities" every pregnancy is different (even with the same woman), due to so many factors I'm not even going to try and list them.

I think that having a solid idea of what to expect during the different stages of pregnancy would be vital and then leave what happens from an adventuring stand point up in the air until you get to points that it needs to be covered.


Teen Pregnancy? Falcon Punch!


Skull wrote:
Teen Pregnancy? Falcon Punch!

Someone already did that one.


Lyingbastard wrote:
Skull wrote:
Teen Pregnancy? Falcon Punch!
Someone already did that one.

And felt kinda guilty for bringing it out.

I imagine any woman that is or has been pregnant prolly won't appreciate the humor.


Abraham spalding wrote:

Many metaphysical types regularly suggest that using magic on a forming child is a very bad idea for many of the same reasons that we are so careful about what drugs are given to pregnant women.

As a GM you are entering very difficult territory -- I would suggest a talk with the player involved with some material about actual pregnancies and what the player wants to be able to do.

While pregnancy as a whole has some "generalities" every pregnancy is different (even with the same woman), due to so many factors I'm not even going to try and list them.

I think that having a solid idea of what to expect during the different stages of pregnancy would be vital and then leave what happens from an adventuring stand point up in the air until you get to points that it needs to be covered.

This is probably the best advice in the entire thread. You're gonna need to have a 1on1 with the player and see how they want to do this.

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Then again, it's a fantasy game.

I don't see how anyone can rationally justify how a Fighter with 200 hit points can continue to fight just as effectively when he's down to 2 hit points, without using the phrase, "cuz the rules say he can".

If a player wants their character to adventure while pregnant, just let them. Let them fret over whether or not the necromantic magics they were just exposed to are going to affect the fetus in any way, let them wonder why those strange cultists seem determined to kill the entire party except for her.

Give the player story hooks to react to, but don't simply tack on penalties to every roll she makes. How does that make the game more fun?

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Gruuuu wrote:
Mahorfeus wrote:
And then there's always the fear that some goblin will run out of nowhere and goblin punch her.
Oh man, I'm going straight to hell for dusting this one off. (SFW, but very insensitive.)

Yes, yes you are... but it is (horribly) funny.


Gruuuu wrote:
Lyingbastard wrote:
Skull wrote:
Teen Pregnancy? Falcon Punch!
Someone already did that one.

And felt kinda guilty for bringing it out.

I imagine any woman that is or has been pregnant prolly won't appreciate the humor.

My wife has had a child, and laughs hysterically at falcon punch.

Tell those other women to stop being so sensitive and get a sense of humor.

Scarab Sages

Abraham spalding wrote:
Many metaphysical types regularly suggest that using magic on a forming child is a very bad idea...

Yes, they do.


Great. Now I'm having images of the baby bursting out of her belly with huge abs, moments after bull's strength was cast on her.


Mahorfeus wrote:
Great. Now I'm having images of the baby bursting out of her belly with huge abs, moments after bull's strength was cast on her.

LOL. Now I'm having images of a mother in labor popping out the kid with one über-push after having bull's strength cast on her. The midwife would need a catcher's mit and solid footing to keep from getting knocked back by the impact. Who needs lamaze classes when you've got magic!


An idea for the baby being exposed to magic...

I think that instead of magic affecting the child in a negative manner, he could have the chance to be changed by the type of magic into a future sorcerer. I could see the Arcane bloodline being an obvious one, but Im sure the types of magic should affect him (protean, necromantic, etc). The adventure could deal with how the child reacts with this magic and how the rest of the party copes a bit with it. Hell, it might even become a great new champion in a future game! Just something your player and you might enjoy :)

Here is a link that has a cool idea for playing child characters. Hope this'll help in the future.

http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/katz/dnd/kids.html

Also here is a link for 0 level and below characters.

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Expanded_Apprentice-Level_Rules_(3.5e_Variant_ Rule)


Heymitch wrote:
I don't see how anyone can rationally justify how a Fighter with 200 hit points can continue to fight just as effectively when he's down to 2 hit points, without using the phrase, "cuz the rules say he can".

<clears throat, speaks in deep voice>

Conan took enough injuries to fell five ordinary men, but still he kept on fighting.

(Seriously, Robert E. Howard wrote that kind of stuff all the time.)

Okay, I WAS going for the "maternity leave" approach, but so many people are pushing in the other direction. So for a good example of the "kick-@$$ pregnant woman" idea, check this out:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3 (which I mention just for the last panel)


Chances are pretty good that the female PC has better than average health. So she'll, all other things being equal, have an easier time with pregnancy than most. My wife has been pregnant twice with our children, and fits the profile of a healthier than average person, so here are some notes from our actual experience.
1st trimester: Usually it was no big deal. There might be the occasional low DC save against getting the nauseated condition, but it's low DC. There's probably also a fairly low DC fortitude save against miscarriage. Sadly that happens a lot but happily it never has happened to my wife. It's probably like DC5 or so and it (and all other saves involved with pregnancy) should probably be exempted from a 1 auto-failing.
2nd trimester: Generally no significant issues
3rd trimester: Probably a daily save against walking around all day with the fatigued condition. Some days are better, others are worse. Probably around DC10.
Delivery: Probably low DC fort saves again, with bonuses for good healers around. In a low tech world, blowing several of them can result in damage or death to the child or mother.


Mikaze wrote:


But seriously, in a fantasy setting with many working, adventuring women and access to magic...

Someone else had the idea that some mage, somewhere, would hit on the idea of an artificial womb. Said item would likely be fueled partially by a life link with the mother, which also maintains a sympathetic link between the two. Her child(ren) would be displaced into the device, until it was time to be born from the artificial womb or the mother herself.

While I wouldn't go to artificial womb (and I'll also skip over the many, many bad puns), I think that you're generally right. In the history of the game world, and in the spirit of the game, I tend to imagine that someone would have at some point come up with the spells or magic items to allow a pregnant adventurer to both have a family and keep her job, so to speak.


Odraude wrote:

An idea for the baby being exposed to magic...

I think that instead of magic affecting the child in a negative manner, he could have the chance to be changed by the type of magic into a future sorcerer. I could see the Arcane bloodline being an obvious one, but Im sure the types of magic should affect him (protean, necromantic, etc). The adventure could deal with how the child reacts with this magic and how the rest of the party copes a bit with it. Hell, it might even become a great new champion in a future game! Just something your player and you might enjoy :)

Interestingly, I once played a character who was the product of such a thing! Her mother was a powerful wizard whose use of magic forever warped her during development. As she would cast spells, sometimes she would just feel the power ebb away to no effect.

As a child, she grew quickly and reacted to magic in unusual ways, and was able to dispel and steal magical effects from others with ease. Spell Thief made the most sense in 3.5, but I can see any of the sorcerers being the children of such magical users (celestial/infernal/abyssal = cleric/inquisitor/paladin/antipaladin, fey/verdant/elemental = druid/ranger, destined/dreamspun/starsoul = bard, aberrant = summoner, destined/shadow/starsoul/dreamspun = witch).


Sounds pretty awesome. I'd probably have the child as a level -1 sorcerer until juvenile, when they can they go to level 0 and finally level 1 as adult.

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I don't know if this came up before, but what about a wondrous corset made with the secret chest spell that simultaneously flattens mommy's tummy and protects the baby by essentially having the the wearer's stomach in a pocket dimension?


Dark_Mistress wrote:

Ironicly Connie of 4 Wind Fantasy Gaming recently did a 3 part blog series about this very topic over at Geek's Dream Girl. You can find a link to her author link with all her articles HERE.

it was a interesting read and you might find it helpful.

Thanks for the plug, DM! :D (Made a little edit for ya for the name of the website!)

Connie
4WFG

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Mikael Sebag wrote:
I don't know if this came up before, but what about a wondrous corset made with the secret chest spell that simultaneously flattens mommy's tummy and protects the baby by essentially having the the wearer's stomach in a pocket dimension?

I'd just be terrified of disjunction type spells that could sever the dimensional link. :(


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Mahorfeus wrote:

In my last campaign, the PCs came across a young king that was apparently very fond of women - several women, at that. Attracted to one of the PCs, he... propositioned her. Having her own motives for conceiving a royal heir, she went through with it. And so, with a few percentage rolls made up on the spot by our last GM, now we have a week-pregnant PC.

Now, the GM Hat is back on me. This had all started as a joke, but I saw that it had some definite roleplay potential - but the roleplaying isn't a part of it. Pregnancy is definitely not in the Core rules anywhere, and it's apparent that within a month or so, the PC will be physically affected.

Her character isn't the type that would retire just because she is pregnant, so obviously the child will be in constant danger. So, what kind of effects should pregnancy eventually have on the PC? Anybody ever have something similar happen in your campaign?

As Dark Mistress pointed out, this is something I've written extensively on in my Geek's Dream Girl column (here here and here). I've also had the experience of playing a pregnant character twice (the same character, several game years apart). I won't repeat the entirety of my columns on the subject (because I want you to go read them, of course!) but I'll sum up a bit to answer your question.

Like Hu5tru said, the Book of Erotic Fantasy did outline some great guidelines for the game-stat effects of pregnancy on a character. For our games we've also created charts of chances for morning sickness, mood swings, food cravings/aversions, etc. We also include a chance of spell failure for casters, as the baby placing a poorly timed kick to the ribs can ruin a spell.

I found the role-playing challenge of a pregnant character to be a lot of fun. She had to find another way to get around once she couldn't ride a horse anymore - she's a wizard, so she would ride atop a floating disk, holding her horse's reins and letting it pull her along. She was well-protected with magic items, but did sit out a lot of battles, or at least held herself far to the back. When the babies came (it was twins the first time), after a few weeks the whole family hit the road together with the rest of the party. I had to be creative in figuring out ways to keep the children safe, but it was manageable, and the depth the experience added to my character made every challenge worthwhile.


ArielManx wrote:
For our games we've also created charts of chances for morning sickness, mood swings, food cravings/aversions, etc. We also include a chance of spell failure for casters, as the baby placing a poorly timed kick to the ribs can ruin a...

I think it is funny that adventurers and adventuresses are tough as nails, regularily dodging Fireballs and wading through Stinking Clouds that leave normals folks helpless with retching but (advanced) pregnancy is suddenly doing what all spells, monsters and villains couldn't - reduce a tough adventurer to mere rubble...


Mikael Sebag wrote:
I don't know if this came up before, but what about a wondrous corset made with the secret chest spell that simultaneously flattens mommy's tummy and protects the baby by essentially having the the wearer's stomach in a pocket dimension?

A great many people who AREN'T pregnant would pay a lot of money for an item like that.


Aaron Bitman wrote:
A great many people who AREN'T pregnant would pay a lot of money for an item like that.

I'd pay for a belt of washboard abs +6 myself.

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Aaron Bitman wrote:
Mikael Sebag wrote:
I don't know if this came up before, but what about a wondrous corset made with the secret chest spell that simultaneously flattens mommy's tummy and protects the baby by essentially having the the wearer's stomach in a pocket dimension?
A great many people who AREN'T pregnant would pay a lot of money for an item like that.

This reminded me of a book I just read involving an evil priest who served a demon of gluttony. One of the 'gifts' bestowed upon him by the demon was the ability to continuously eat without feeling full or becoming fat.

Later in the story, the priest lost favor with the demon, and the gift was rescinded, and he immediately bloated up based on all the extra calories he had consumed over the years.

It was messy.


The game - by design - makes a lot of things abstract. You can't call-shot for instance, so you don't need to worry about someone specifically stabbing you in the eye, or kicking the family jewels. A baby bump should be treated the same way. Unless Mommy dies, a few nights' rest or a cure moderate wounds takes care of business.

As for the host^H^H^H^Hmother, I'd probably consider giving a -2 penalty to Dex for the last few months. In return I'd probably give her access to a couple/few rounds of barbarian rage per day. Don't screw with the pregnant lady.

Be creative. Encourage the player, don't punish. And remember, this isn't a pregnant commoner. This is an extraordinary, special woman who is an adventurer.


Well, it's been a few weeks, but now there is an update to the pregnancy situation. In-game, only a month has passed. As it would turn out, the king that impregnated the PC was actually a dragon in disguise. Yep. It was another one of those "why not?" moments that I just barely established as plausible - it was a tie-in to another campaign event. Quite literally, the child is going to end up being a half-dragon, which means he'll be born with wings, claws, probably scales, and oh, fire immunity.

Again, this is by no means covered by RAW, but does anybody have any ideas as to how half-human/dragon ecology would work? Would the pregnancy follow normal human trimesters, or will the PC end up laying an egg within another week?


Dragons age really slowly so I think a half dragon like half elves would grow up slower and have a longer gestation period.


This thread reminded me of s recent question I asked my DM...can I get a Baby pocket...you know based on a Familiar pocket but for babies.

Hey all mordern adventuring mothers would need this.


O.k. I'll say it. -4 CHA except for Intimidate. If momma ain't happy, ain't no one happy.

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