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Freehold DM wrote:
Dammit! We lost Gran. At least he took the arm off that Orion before he went out.

Whoa...Someone managed to kill an Urbanmech? They must have been an elite mechjock.

Speaking of elite...


I wrote down all the names of the people I hate on a scrap of paper, but then my roommate accidentally used it to roll a joint. Now he's high on the list of people I never want to talk to again.


My friend is a lumberjack, and he recently told me that he has cut down exactly 27,839 trees in his career. I asked how he could be so sure of the number, and he said "Easy. I keep a log."


Leather workers are the best craftsmen. They always give it their awl.

Scarab Sages

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captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Woran wrote:
If we're talking martial arts movies, then Kung-Fu Hustle all the way.

if we both weren't married woran...

No but I do love that movie.

Im platonically married to several other people (LARPs happen. RPG stuff happens). So we can defenitely get married.

Can Cap Yesterday oversee the ceremony?

My dad could, though he's retired. He officiated our wedding.

But I want my fake internet wedding to be officiated by a man looking like Jesus on top of a skidloader covered in sawblades.


Woran wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Woran wrote:
If we're talking martial arts movies, then Kung-Fu Hustle all the way.

if we both weren't married woran...

No but I do love that movie.

Im platonically married to several other people (LARPs happen. RPG stuff happens). So we can defenitely get married.

Can Cap Yesterday oversee the ceremony?

My dad could, though he's retired. He officiated our wedding.
But I want my fake internet wedding to be officiated by a man looking like Jesus on top of a skidloader covered in sawblades.

That's going to be a hard no, I don't do public speaking.

Basically, if it involves me standing on a stage with a group of people focused on me I'm not doing it. At all. Ever.


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captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Woran wrote:
If we're talking martial arts movies, then Kung-Fu Hustle all the way.

if we both weren't married woran...

No but I do love that movie.

Im platonically married to several other people (LARPs happen. RPG stuff happens). So we can defenitely get married.

Can Cap Yesterday oversee the ceremony?

My dad could, though he's retired. He officiated our wedding.
But I want my fake internet wedding to be officiated by a man looking like Jesus on top of a skidloader covered in sawblades.

That's going to be a hard no, I don't do public speaking.

Basically, if it involves me standing on a stage with a group of people focused on me I'm not doing it. At all. Ever.

What if we gave you a tile saw to stand behind and then let you build a patio of dick helmets?


gran rey de los mono wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Woran wrote:
If we're talking martial arts movies, then Kung-Fu Hustle all the way.

if we both weren't married woran...

No but I do love that movie.

Im platonically married to several other people (LARPs happen. RPG stuff happens). So we can defenitely get married.

Can Cap Yesterday oversee the ceremony?

My dad could, though he's retired. He officiated our wedding.
But I want my fake internet wedding to be officiated by a man looking like Jesus on top of a skidloader covered in sawblades.

That's going to be a hard no, I don't do public speaking.

Basically, if it involves me standing on a stage with a group of people focused on me I'm not doing it. At all. Ever.

What if we gave you a tile saw to stand behind and then let you build a patio of dick helmets?

That I can do.

I can build something on a stage with everyone watching (the artisan bakery I worked at in Seattle gave a lot of elementary school tours) but I won't speak (I'd basically be a mime with power tools).


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Also gave Vagrant Erudite a third leg so he can run faster.

I don't recall you mentioning mine. What's it's type?

lanky 40 ton machine that fits the weird role of a heavy scout. It is fast enough to keep up with Scint now and has enough firepower to fight its way out of modest scrapes. If it can get behind someone, it can probably kill them in one hit, or make them wish they were dead.

If possible, I may try to make you a ninja too. Let me see if I have the stuff.


gran rey de los nekkid wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Dammit! We lost Gran. At least he took the arm off that Orion before he went out.

Whoa...Someone managed to kill an Urbanmech? They must have been an elite mechjock.

Speaking of elite...

You were laying down cover fire with a light gauss, and things were going well. Then you lost your cover buddy in limey, who also had a gauss rifle, and there was only you to focus on.


Am I dead too or was I just not on this mission?

Scarab Sages

captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Woran wrote:
If we're talking martial arts movies, then Kung-Fu Hustle all the way.

if we both weren't married woran...

No but I do love that movie.

Im platonically married to several other people (LARPs happen. RPG stuff happens). So we can defenitely get married.

Can Cap Yesterday oversee the ceremony?

My dad could, though he's retired. He officiated our wedding.
But I want my fake internet wedding to be officiated by a man looking like Jesus on top of a skidloader covered in sawblades.

That's going to be a hard no, I don't do public speaking.

Basically, if it involves me standing on a stage with a group of people focused on me I'm not doing it. At all. Ever.

You wont be on a stage, you will be on a skidloader ;)

Also, it could just be me and Gran.


Woran wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Woran wrote:
If we're talking martial arts movies, then Kung-Fu Hustle all the way.

if we both weren't married woran...

No but I do love that movie.

Im platonically married to several other people (LARPs happen. RPG stuff happens). So we can defenitely get married.

Can Cap Yesterday oversee the ceremony?

My dad could, though he's retired. He officiated our wedding.
But I want my fake internet wedding to be officiated by a man looking like Jesus on top of a skidloader covered in sawblades.

That's going to be a hard no, I don't do public speaking.

Basically, if it involves me standing on a stage with a group of people focused on me I'm not doing it. At all. Ever.

You wont be on a stage, you will be on a skidloader ;)

Also, it could just be me and Gran.

Me? I thought you were marrying Vidmaster7. I'm flattered, but I must decline.


Freehold DM wrote:
gran rey de los nekkid wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Dammit! We lost Gran. At least he took the arm off that Orion before he went out.

Whoa...Someone managed to kill an Urbanmech? They must have been an elite mechjock.

Speaking of elite...

You were laying down cover fire with a light gauss, and things were going well. Then you lost your cover buddy in limey, who also had a gauss rifle, and there was only you to focus on.

Oh, so it's the Brit's fault. Typical.


Last night I had some free time and started watching The Saga of Tanya the Evil. The first episode was right up my alley, and I was really enjoying it...
...then in episode 2 they decided to make it an isekai (modern person gets transported to fantasy setting). It went massively downhill from there, and now I'm wondering whether to watch more of it (I'm about 4 episodes in) or give up.

Why, writers, why!??!?! You had a really neat concept, then someone said, "Hey, make it an isekai!" and now it's just kind of pathetic.

Ah, well. I'll give it a couple more episodes before shelving it.


Freehold DM wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Also gave Vagrant Erudite a third leg so he can run faster.

I don't recall you mentioning mine. What's it's type?

lanky 40 ton machine that fits the weird role of a heavy scout. It is fast enough to keep up with Scint now and has enough firepower to fight its way out of modest scrapes. If it can get behind someone, it can probably kill them in one hit, or make them wish they were dead.

If possible, I may try to make you a ninja too. Let me see if I have the stuff.

Well now I need to make a Tactics Ogre FAWTL team. The only obvious class is to make Limey a Swordmaster. Beyond that may take some thinking.


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Always depressing to be on a "customer success stories" call and learn that today's focus is on a tobacco company.

As usual, morality has no place in global megacorporations.


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Woran wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Woran wrote:
Vidmaster7 wrote:
Woran wrote:
If we're talking martial arts movies, then Kung-Fu Hustle all the way.

if we both weren't married woran...

No but I do love that movie.

Im platonically married to several other people (LARPs happen. RPG stuff happens). So we can defenitely get married.

Can Cap Yesterday oversee the ceremony?

My dad could, though he's retired. He officiated our wedding.
But I want my fake internet wedding to be officiated by a man looking like Jesus on top of a skidloader covered in sawblades.

That's going to be a hard no, I don't do public speaking.

Basically, if it involves me standing on a stage with a group of people focused on me I'm not doing it. At all. Ever.

You wont be on a stage, you will be on a skidloader ;)

Also, it could just be me and Gran.

Solution: we pre-record the ceremony, and play it though a hat-mounted loudspeaker as he cuts, fills, cements and excavates... LIVE AND IN PERSON!!!


Orthos wrote:
Am I dead too or was I just not on this mission?

Not on this mission.


NobodysHome wrote:

Last night I had some free time and started watching The Saga of Tanya the Evil. The first episode was right up my alley, and I was really enjoying it...

...then in episode 2 they decided to make it an isekai (modern person gets transported to fantasy setting). It went massively downhill from there, and now I'm wondering whether to watch more of it (I'm about 4 episodes in) or give up.

Why, writers, why!??!?! You had a really neat concept, then someone said, "Hey, make it an isekai!" and now it's just kind of pathetic.

Ah, well. I'll give it a couple more episodes before shelving it.

its okay. I'm not the world's biggest fan. I can't believe I am saying this but I think it works better as a light novel. I think we may be in those times again(last time this happened was the mid 90s).


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Also gave Vagrant Erudite a third leg so he can run faster.

I don't recall you mentioning mine. What's it's type?

lanky 40 ton machine that fits the weird role of a heavy scout. It is fast enough to keep up with Scint now and has enough firepower to fight its way out of modest scrapes. If it can get behind someone, it can probably kill them in one hit, or make them wish they were dead.

If possible, I may try to make you a ninja too. Let me see if I have the stuff.

Well now I need to make a Tactics Ogre FAWTL team. The only obvious class is to make Limey a Swordmaster. Beyond that may take some thinking.

I either want something roguish or the first person to rush into a room.


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Freehold DM wrote:
Nylarthotep wrote:

201.0.

About 2 weeks behind where I thought I would be on my aggressive 1.5 lb/week plan, but still ahead the more traditional 1 lb/week plan. And given the time of the year, I will accept it. Moar time on the bike though.

STOP BEING IN BETTER SHAPE THAN ME!!!

'sokay FH. You can use me to be better than. My shape is roughly bowling ball and while I haven't weighed myself in a long while I know I'm well above 200 lbs despite my short, 5'5" stature. Fyi though, I'm now 2 weeks into Intermittent Fasting and feel like I'm getting a good handle on WHEN to eat.

Still working on portion size. I overload all my calories around dinner. I know I'm extremely sedentary so as I'm slowly ramping up my physical activity, I'm trying to keep calories around 1500-1800 per day. There have been a couple times in the last 2 weeks I've flown WAY over that though.

Thanks to Crystal Seas for their help with this, it's much appreciated. FHDM, any time you need to feel better about the shape you're in just PM me for affirmation :)


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Mark Hoover 330 wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Nylarthotep wrote:

201.0.

About 2 weeks behind where I thought I would be on my aggressive 1.5 lb/week plan, but still ahead the more traditional 1 lb/week plan. And given the time of the year, I will accept it. Moar time on the bike though.

STOP BEING IN BETTER SHAPE THAN ME!!!

'sokay FH. You can use me to be better than. My shape is roughly bowling ball and while I haven't weighed myself in a long while I know I'm well above 200 lbs despite my short, 5'5" stature. Fyi though, I'm now 2 weeks into Intermittent Fasting and feel like I'm getting a good handle on WHEN to eat.

Still working on portion size. I overload all my calories around dinner. I know I'm extremely sedentary so as I'm slowly ramping up my physical activity, I'm trying to keep calories around 1500-1800 per day. There have been a couple times in the last 2 weeks I've flown WAY over that though.

Thanks to Crystal Seas for their help with this, it's much appreciated. FHDM, any time you need to feel better about the shape you're in just PM me for affirmation :)

True fact: the boss likes to hire people that only want to work for the summer to get in better shape.

I have personally bossed around two CEOs this year.


Meanwhile I sit as a heap of slag on a forsaken forgotten planet. :)

In other news 200 even after today's ride. 14.3 down since Sept 14. So again, still a bit behind my initial chart, but ahead of the more realistic 1 lb/week chart.

I expect the following to be a categorical no - but are any fawtlers also peloton folks? Christine is precisely the type of coach i like, but she needs better music. Denis has good music, but not always the type of ride I want.


captain yesterday wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Also gave Vagrant Erudite a third leg so he can run faster.

I don't recall you mentioning mine. What's it's type?

lanky 40 ton machine that fits the weird role of a heavy scout. It is fast enough to keep up with Scint now and has enough firepower to fight its way out of modest scrapes. If it can get behind someone, it can probably kill them in one hit, or make them wish they were dead.

If possible, I may try to make you a ninja too. Let me see if I have the stuff.

Well now I need to make a Tactics Ogre FAWTL team. The only obvious class is to make Limey a Swordmaster. Beyond that may take some thinking.
I either want something roguish or the first person to rush into a room.

iirc, Ninja still win initiative almost every time.

Maybe instead of individual characters, you make entire parties based on FAWTLs(if we are thinknling of the same Tactics Ogre)?


You're thinking of Ogre Battle.

Tactics Ogre is the sequel and was the inspiration for FF Tactics, later remade into a sort of unofficial sequel.

The difference is its a 12 man party, with way more classes and races. Only generics, sadly, can be customized, so classes are limited to:

Warrior, archer, wizard/enchantress (by gender, but the same thing effectively), cleric, rune fencer/Valkyrie, knight, terror knight, berserker, swordmaster, dragoon, ninja/kunoichi, rogue, fusiler (gunslinger), beast tamer, warlock/witch, necromancer, lich, divine knight...and that's the humans.

Using the Ogre Blade you can body surf into birdmen, orcs, lizardmen, undead, demons, fairies, and a bunch more, opening more classes, but it's hard to pull off. Each of those has a set of classes, some of which overlap, some don't.

Uniques have EVEN MORE.

It's kind of insane.

So yeah, cap, there's a rogue!


Also, you chose alignment for each character: Chaotic, lawful, or neutral. There is no good/evil. The game works pretty hard to tell you any story choice has both good and evil repercussions.


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

You're thinking of Ogre Battle.

Tactics Ogre is the sequel and was the inspiration for FF Tactics, later remade into a sort of unofficial sequel.

The difference is its a 12 man party, with way more classes and races. Only generics, sadly, can be customized, so classes are limited to:

Warrior, archer, wizard/enchantress (by gender, but the same thing effectively), cleric, rune fencer/Valkyrie, knight, terror knight, berserker, swordmaster, dragoon, ninja/kunoichi, rogue, fusiler (gunslinger), beast tamer, warlock/witch, necromancer, lich, divine knight...and that's the humans.

Using the Ogre Blade you can body surf into birdmen, orcs, lizardmen, undead, demons, fairies, and a bunch more, opening more classes, but it's hard to pull off. Each of those has a set of classes, some of which overlap, some don't.

Uniques have EVEN MORE.

It's kind of insane.

So yeah, cap, there's a rogue!

Ah!

I'm sorry, I preferred Ogre Battle, even as I Looooooooooove FFT.


Weird that I'm becoming a ninja. I only wish I could'a done my part in battle.


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Wooooow...

I knew my mother was a busybody, but just... wow...

As I've mentioned I'm doing my end-of-year paperwork purging, and I'm finally going through the file cabinet that's been sitting in the back yard for the last couple of years.

I found a folder with my name on it. What's in it? Pretty much every personal, private email I'd ever sent her. All printed out for anyone to see.

Financial issues because of my layoffs? Check!
Landlord issues? Check!
Personal health information? Check!
Disciplinary issues with students at schools? Check! (No names, of course)

So on the one hand, yes, from the first time I got an email account back in 1985 or 1986, I was told, "Imagine that anything you send via email will be posted on a public bulletin board. Now, will you still send it?"

At least I was careful enough about that to not send anything that included things like student names or whatnot.

But the sheer intrusiveness of finding out that anything personal that I sent to my parents had been printed and preserved for posterity was quite the shocker.

I mean, WHY would you print out all your kid's personal emails and store them? Other than blackmail material for later, it makes no sense at all!


Ogre Battle was great. The only sequel it had of the same engine type was Ogre Battle 64, one of the only RPGs for N64.


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Maybe she puts the ones she's really proud of up on her fridge?


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NH, for the same reasons moms save colored pictures and report cards. She loves you and wants any memory possible, no matter how mundane, within easy reminiscent reach. Old people dislike digitals.

Love assumes the best.


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<assumes couch slouch of dominance atop human>


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

NH, for the same reasons moms save colored pictures and report cards. She loves you and wants any memory possible, no matter how mundane, within easy reminiscent reach. Old people dislike digitals.

Love assumes the best.

So, *IF* it were every email, I'd agree.

Instead, it's only the emails that contain something I consider "private" information. My layoff from my first tech job. A detailed account of the financial difficulties we were facing. Health questions (she's an M.D./Ph.D.). Student discipline issues I had to deal with.

So nothing from, "We're in Europe and having a blast!"
Nothing on my progress reports in grad school and how much better things were going than undergrad.

Not a single email with "good" news.

Just a long litany of all the issues I faced.

I don't think "Love" is saving all the negative things about your child, and none of the positive.

EDIT: Honestly it reads more like preparation for a dissertation on my character flaws. She didn't save the email where I got a new job teaching at a private college; she saved the one where I learned I'd be making 25% less there so money would be tight. Stuff like that.


NobodysHome wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

NH, for the same reasons moms save colored pictures and report cards. She loves you and wants any memory possible, no matter how mundane, within easy reminiscent reach. Old people dislike digitals.

Love assumes the best.

So, *IF* it were every email, I'd agree.

Instead, it's only the emails that contain something I consider "private" information. My layoff from my first tech job. A detailed account of the financial difficulties we were facing. Health questions (she's an M.D./Ph.D.). Student discipline issues I had to deal with.

So nothing from, "We're in Europe and having a blast!"
Nothing on my progress reports in grad school and how much better things were going than undergrad.

Not a single email with "good" news.

Just a long litany of all the issues I faced.

I don't think "Love" is saving all the negative things about your child, and none of the positive.

EDIT: Honestly it reads more like preparation for a dissertation on my character flaws. She didn't save the email where I got a new job teaching at a private college; she saved the one where I learned I'd be making 25% less there so money would be tight. Stuff like that.

Yeesh.


Is she religious? It could be things she's prayed over in the past. I know people who do that.


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NobodysHome wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

NH, for the same reasons moms save colored pictures and report cards. She loves you and wants any memory possible, no matter how mundane, within easy reminiscent reach. Old people dislike digitals.

Love assumes the best.

So, *IF* it were every email, I'd agree.

Instead, it's only the emails that contain something I consider "private" information. My layoff from my first tech job. A detailed account of the financial difficulties we were facing. Health questions (she's an M.D./Ph.D.). Student discipline issues I had to deal with.

So nothing from, "We're in Europe and having a blast!"
Nothing on my progress reports in grad school and how much better things were going than undergrad.

Not a single email with "good" news.

Just a long litany of all the issues I faced.

I don't think "Love" is saving all the negative things about your child, and none of the positive.

EDIT: Honestly it reads more like preparation for a dissertation on my character flaws. She didn't save the email where I got a new job teaching at a private college; she saved the one where I learned I'd be making 25% less there so money would be tight. Stuff like that.

OK, that's a little messed up...


Hello, everyone.


The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Is she religious? It could be things she's prayed over in the past. I know people who do that.

Unfortunately, not at all.

But I *did* just find her summary of expenses of calls to us when we were honeymooning in Australia so she could bill my inheritance for the cost of calling to check up on us...


woot Twilight 2000 alpha pdf released. Too long to print and I hate reading on computer, but such is life.


Newsom just announced our interesting-but-apparently-rational shutdown plan.

The TL;DR version: If a region hits 85% ICU capacity, we go into full shutdown mode 48 hours later.

On the one hand, the numbers are so specific I'm hoping he worked that whole thing out with a group of epidemiologists.

Because on the other hand, "Oh, carp! Things are getting bad! We'd better shut down in two days," doesn't seem like a particularly urgent response time.

But I have no medical training, and the 48 hours gives people time to stock up on essentials before they get locked down, so we'll see how it works out. I'm just worried we're going to see stampedes of panic buying in the areas that get hit...


NobodysHome wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Is she religious? It could be things she's prayed over in the past. I know people who do that.

Unfortunately, not at all.

But I *did* just find her summary of expenses of calls to us when we were honeymooning in Australia so she could bill my inheritance for the cost of calling to check up on us...

Is this the family you told us about who would send you bills after when they hosted family dinners or took family out to celebratory meals? Or am I getting that confused with a different family/someone else in FAWTL's family horror stories?


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NH's mother invites her closest friends over to the file cabinet:

LOOK at everything he's gotten through. Every complaint, every bad day, every ruinous, riotous injustice he's done, or has had done to him. Now... (shows current picture of NH and his family) LOOK at him now!

I couldn't be more proud. I keep all of this to remind myself: my boy is human, he has flaws, failings, like all of us. But any one of these would be enough to tear down a lesser man.

NH's mom wipes the foggy conjecture of a tear from the corner of her eye.

My boy is special. Every day that he rises above all of this... (indicates filing cabinet), he proves to me how wonderful he really is. I love him, so I keep it all, this litany of pain, so he doesn't have to carry it all on his own.

One of the friends turns to NH's mom

That's beautiful! Do you ever tell him all of this?

NH's mom slams the filing cabinet!

No... and neither will any of you. He mustn't ever know how close I am, how much I watch, how much I know. Better he thinks I'm obtrusive, an old gossip, than to realize...

Looks wistfully at file cabinet once more

… I worry about him, every day. I see in these pages how much life claws at him, how it tries to tear him down. I WON'T be one of those burdens. Better that he pushes me away now, rather than having to carry me along with all the rest. Come on... let's go back inside...


NH - I'm like, 99% certain you're going to say this is way off base, but I like to think our moms love us and want the best for us. I'm what's referred to in old movies as a "mama's boy." Then again, I'm witnessing in my own personal life how a mom can love conditionally, selfishly, so I won't fault you for telling me to go hang.


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Orthos wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Is she religious? It could be things she's prayed over in the past. I know people who do that.

Unfortunately, not at all.

But I *did* just find her summary of expenses of calls to us when we were honeymooning in Australia so she could bill my inheritance for the cost of calling to check up on us...

Is this the family you told us about who would send you bills after when they hosted family dinners or took family out to celebratory meals? Or am I getting that confused with a different family/someone else in FAWTL's family horror stories?

No; my family never sent me a bill. It's a lot more insidious than that.

For our entire lives, my father always told us, "Money isn't an issue! Just tell us what you need and we'll get it for you!"
They paid for our colleges. They paid for all our vacations, friends and significant others included. If we needed money, they gave it to us. They treated us to dinner.

And all the while, while my father was telling us that money wasn't an issue, my mother was tracking every single penny they spent on every single kid. My trips to Hawaii as a kid? Tracked. My college education? Tracked. Our wedding and honeymoon? Tracked. Any money we asked for? Tracked. All without our knowledge.

Once my father died, my mother pulled out the spreadsheet. Well, NobodysHome, you went to grad school and had us help you with the honeymoon, so we spent xxx on you. Older Brother, we paid for your trip to Europe, your college education, and part of your move, so we spent yyy on you. Younger Brother, you were a layabout so we spent very little on you.

Totting up the sums and given the lack of any inheritance money, my parents' "Will" was that I owed my younger brother over $10,000 because they'd spent more on me than they had on him.

So I reserve the right to be a bit bitter about this arrangement, because they never mentioned it to any of us until after my father was dead, and I was expected to cough up ten grand. (We came to an equitable arrangement with the lawyer present where we split up ownership of the house to make up for my missing share, but yeah, consider me salty.)


Mark Hoover 330 wrote:
NH - I'm like, 99% certain you're going to say this is way off base, but I like to think our moms love us and want the best for us. I'm what's referred to in old movies as a "mama's boy." Then again, I'm witnessing in my own personal life how a mom can love conditionally, selfishly, so I won't fault you for telling me to go hang.

Oh, I don't mind discussing it. As you get older, you get more and more amused at your family's skeletons, rather than horrified by them.

But, having moved back in with my mother for a few years, it's really a lot simpler than that. She has learned that she can be very popular by telling "amusing anecdotes". And anecdotes aren't "amusing" unless they reveal something bad about a person.

So she completely innocently gossiped about all her children and relatives... to all her children and relatives. Telling GothBard what a horrible mother Sister-in-Law was, then telling Sister-in-Law that GothBard thought she was a horrible mother (creating a rift that I fear might never be healed). Basically, "Find the bad in people, tell other people about it to get attention, and never think about the emotional wreckage you're leaving behind."

That is an apt description of my mother. She's not malicious about it in any way; she just doesn't comprehend that constantly telling people horrible things about her children is not the way to be popular.


Nylarthotep wrote:
woot Twilight 2000 alpha pdf released. Too long to print and I hate reading on computer, but such is life.

I like Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, I think that is the future of the setting?


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NobodysHome wrote:
Mark Hoover 330 wrote:
NH - I'm like, 99% certain you're going to say this is way off base, but I like to think our moms love us and want the best for us. I'm what's referred to in old movies as a "mama's boy." Then again, I'm witnessing in my own personal life how a mom can love conditionally, selfishly, so I won't fault you for telling me to go hang.

Oh, I don't mind discussing it. As you get older, you get more and more amused at your family's skeletons, rather than horrified by them.

But, having moved back in with my mother for a few years, it's really a lot simpler than that. She has learned that she can be very popular by telling "amusing anecdotes". And anecdotes aren't "amusing" unless they reveal something bad about a person.

So she completely innocently gossiped about all her children and relatives... to all her children and relatives. Telling GothBard what a horrible mother Sister-in-Law was, then telling Sister-in-Law that GothBard thought she was a horrible mother (creating a rift that I fear might never be healed). Basically, "Find the bad in people, tell other people about it to get attention, and never think about the emotional wreckage you're leaving behind."

That is an apt description of my mother. She's not malicious about it in any way; she just doesn't comprehend that constantly telling people horrible things about her children is not the way to be popular.

your mom and my mom would get along well, I think.


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Freehold DM wrote:
NobodysHome wrote:
Mark Hoover 330 wrote:
NH - I'm like, 99% certain you're going to say this is way off base, but I like to think our moms love us and want the best for us. I'm what's referred to in old movies as a "mama's boy." Then again, I'm witnessing in my own personal life how a mom can love conditionally, selfishly, so I won't fault you for telling me to go hang.

Oh, I don't mind discussing it. As you get older, you get more and more amused at your family's skeletons, rather than horrified by them.

But, having moved back in with my mother for a few years, it's really a lot simpler than that. She has learned that she can be very popular by telling "amusing anecdotes". And anecdotes aren't "amusing" unless they reveal something bad about a person.

So she completely innocently gossiped about all her children and relatives... to all her children and relatives. Telling GothBard what a horrible mother Sister-in-Law was, then telling Sister-in-Law that GothBard thought she was a horrible mother (creating a rift that I fear might never be healed). Basically, "Find the bad in people, tell other people about it to get attention, and never think about the emotional wreckage you're leaving behind."

That is an apt description of my mother. She's not malicious about it in any way; she just doesn't comprehend that constantly telling people horrible things about her children is not the way to be popular.

your mom and my mom would get along well, I think.

My mom and your moms would not have gotten along.

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