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Also its my birthday today. I turned 33 years young!OMG! You're only one day off GothBard's former birthday!
(She divorced it thanks to Hitler, Columbine, and stoners, and chose a Gothier birthday.)
Wish her happy-not-birthday from me :)
EDIT: Sure. I'll do it in the nude. She'll appreciate my tattoos.
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Yeah that's the one, sorry for bashing your jam man!I had this experience reading a two-book series, don't remember the titles but they were about mirror-magic and romance, anyway I slogged thru both books thinking that at least the conclusion must vindicate the story and this gift of my cousin's. But it was awful thru and thru, and that was the last time I read more than a chapter of any book that didn't impress me by the end of its first chapter.I read the first four books (they were a gift) and hated them. I kept going, thinking they had to eventually get good. They didn't. I then watched the first season of GoT, thinking that they must have found a way to make it good. They didn't.
Then again, I've also picked the "ASoIaF is mediocre at best" hill to die on. I know I'm out of step with what is, apparently, considered "good."~looks up and to my right at my book case~ Stephen R. Donaldson's The Mirror of her dreams and A man rides through? Yeah, his books are not for everyone.
OTOH I did enjoy it, despite the books being only average. Of course I might also have rather low standards too, so that might help.
No biggie. Like I said, I have low standards and his books are not for everyone. Besides, I was young when I read them.
Happy birthday Woran.
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At this point I've given up trying not to. It's impossible to avoid talking politics right now. Everything about existing in this point in time comes with a political edge attached either inherently or quickly applied by one party or another. It's unavoidable.So, I made a post, and then I deleted it as political, but then you asked.
If I've learned anything about how we think and reason, there is no "just the facts" -- every fact that anyone has any interest in talking about has some emotional and moral context, and that's just a fact. ;)
We can and should be civil, and there are always degrees, but I don't see the point in ignoring Human nature.
Well, there's even how we express ourselves.
You took great offense when I used metaphor to describe 4e ("It's a video game turned into a tabletop game" or something similar). So, *I* accepted that people reading my post would accept my statement as metaphor. *You* read my post as an attempt to state fact.
So even simple things like writing down an idea can have different meanings based on who's reading them. I was expressing *MY* distaste for the game and didn't intend for my statement to extend beyond my opinion. Your read was that I was disparaging anyone who liked 4e.
VERY different intent and reading.EDIT: I mean, I doubt anyone who describes a video game as "garbage" actually proceeds to throw out the game...
I have.
Also its my birthday today. I turned 33 years young!OMG! You're only one day off GothBard's former birthday!
(She divorced it thanks to Hitler, Columbine, and stoners, and chose a Gothier birthday.)
Wish her happy-not-birthday from me :)
EDIT: Sure. I'll do it in the nude. She'll appreciate my tattoos.
Happy Apocalypse Tuesday!
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I mean, I doubt anyone who describes a video game as "garbage" actually proceeds to throw out the game...I have.
Yeah, I have friends like you.
The Sociopath: Bought a full-sized bag of Lays potato chips just so he could open it, eat just one, and throw out the rest.The Fake Russian: Searched for his keys, found them, and kept right on looking just so they wouldn't "always be in the last place he looked".
Also its my birthday today. I turned 33 years young!OMG! You're only one day off GothBard's former birthday!
(She divorced it thanks to Hitler, Columbine, and stoners, and chose a Gothier birthday.)
Happy Gloomy former GothBardDay?
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Living on a Self-Sufficient Sailboat for 10 Years I figured this might inspire some sea themed adventures.
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I mean, I doubt anyone who describes a video game as "garbage" actually proceeds to throw out the game...I have.Yeah, I have friends like you.
The Sociopath: Bought a full-sized bag of Lays potato chips just so he could open it, eat just one, and throw out the rest.The Fake Russian: Searched for his keys, found them, and kept right on looking just so they wouldn't "always be in the last place he looked".
I don't do stuff like that and to be honest I don't go around saying what's a piece of garbage (that would be my brothers) but if I think something is worthy of the garbage can I'll throw it in the garbage if only to save someone else from the same experience.
So.
My office has had to bring in bottles of hand soap because we're going thru it far faster than we usually do and need to keep up with demand until the next scheduled maintenance and refill for the built in dispensers in the office restrooms.
This tells me a LOT of my co-workers have APPARENTLY NOT BEEN WASHING THEIR FHTAGNING HANDS AFTER NORMAL BATHROOM USE UNTIL A GL'BYOLYB PANDEMIC PROMPTED THEM TO CHANGE HABITS.
not impossible, but it is also a possibility that people are going overboard with their handwashing. I know that was a factor at my job before we started working from home- people were washing their hands for everything from sneezes to accidental unprotected wall touches.
Also its my birthday today. I turned 33 years young!OMG! You're only one day off GothBard's former birthday!
(She divorced it thanks to Hitler, Columbine, and stoners, and chose a Gothier birthday.)
Wish her happy-not-birthday from me :)
EDIT: Sure. I'll do it in the nude. She'll appreciate my tattoos.
Also its my birthday today. I turned 33 years young!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY WORAN
C'mon. Work it. Seduce me.All kinds.No, pie.Also, we do not wear clothes on this particular side of the force.But do you have cookies?Tempting.
What kind of pie?
After years (decades, even) of rules heavy rpgs, Tales From the Loop is going to take some getting used to.
However, for such a sparse system it's very well written and well thought out.
Plus the artwork is amazing.
Definitely a must have if you like weird s%~@.
Never watched Pulp Fiction, mostly because it’s such pop culture that I know most everything that happens. Seen other Tarantino movies but don’t really count myself a fan of the style, just specific works.
I also think GoT is overrated but still enjoy it.
I agreed with this post so much I turned into you. GOT over-ratd but I still watched it.
At this point I've given up trying not to. It's impossible to avoid talking politics right now. Everything about existing in this point in time comes with a political edge attached either inherently or quickly applied by one party or another. It's unavoidable.So, I made a post, and then I deleted it as political, but then you asked.
If I've learned anything about how we think and reason, there is no "just the facts" -- every fact that anyone has any interest in talking about has some emotional and moral context, and that's just a fact. ;)
We can and should be civil, and there are always degrees, but I don't see the point in ignoring Human nature.
Well, there's even how we express ourselves.
You took offense when I used metaphor to describe 4e ("It's a video game turned into a tabletop game" or something similar). So, *I* accepted that people reading my post would accept my statement as metaphor. *You* read my post as an attempt to state fact.
So even simple things like writing down an idea can have different meanings based on who's reading them. I was expressing *MY* distaste for the game and didn't intend for my statement to extend beyond my opinion. Your read was that I was disparaging anyone who liked 4e.
VERY different intent and reading.EDIT: I mean, I doubt anyone who describes a video game as "garbage" actually proceeds to throw out the game...
Great example!
So yeah, there is emotional context in my reading your post.
Sooooooo... 4e...
I did not touch anything D&D related from 1979-2011, so I think it's fair to say I had no biases whatsoever coming in to Games of Berkeley and asking for "the latest version of Dungeons and Dragons".
We ignored the salesperson's advice and bought D&D 4e instead of Pathfinder. We tried to play it. It was... awful...
It truly lived up to its description as, "A low-end RPG video game done on paper."
The whole, "Daily abilities/encounter abilities/at-will abilities" structure of combat meant that you never just "swung a sword". You always "clicked a button" to do something "special".My kids were 7 and 10 when we started, and even they found 4e's rules to be too "childish". I bought Pathfinder, we threw 4e in the trash, and I've never regretted that decision.
I lived through an era of edition warring that you missed, I saw fellow gamers who I had much in common with suddenly turn around and ridicule a new edition that solved a ton of issues that many many of those fans had wanted resolved. But they didn't like how 4e solved them, or didn't want all of them solved in the first place, or didn't like other aspects of the edition -- and some of those people continue to hate 4e far beyond a moderate and totally understandable personal preference. There are tons of fans who talk about 4e and believe it to be the myths that they've created.
And your original comment references these myths by way of metaphor. You could have simply said "Yeah we played it and didn't like it" or even "hated" it (yeah we're all allowed to hate things), but you started by claiming a false impartiality -- you had played D&D years before and thus had particular expectations of it -- and then proceeded to conjure up several of the 4e myths. The myth that is widely disdained even by people who sell it. The myth of "low-end RPG video game" and "clicking buttons" -- you didn't come up with this metaphor on your own, as that's not how WotC or any of its fans billed it. You got that metaphor from the echo chamber of 4e haters, and you felt the need to use it despite its obvious departure from fact. The myth that rules only as complex as necessary = "childish." Even your closing statement arises from a really toxic metaphor -- that 4e really is garbage, not even fit to be passed on because nobody would want to play it. And yes, while I don't think you consciously or fully believe all of these things, there are people who do and this is the net so Poe's Law applies.
In closing, I've grown to respect your reserve and judgment on many things -- but you and I are both living proof that all facts worthy of conversation are also framed by background emotion and morality.
*sniff* do I smell edition warring?
*gets out the "knucks"*
I just don't gt to use that alias often enough...
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Rimworld kicks ass. I just got it as a gift from Tala.
I keep dying when I don't use mods to cheat, though. I'll be in the middle of caring for a prisoner when an animal goes mad, injures my warden, and then a f!#*ing herd rampages and kills my doctor while a raid happens. I end up left with one t*#* who refuses to cook or such, and ends up getting food poisoning from eating raw corpses of his friends.
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Happy birthday Woran and GothBard!
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In other news, I had a new character to play in 'Call of Cthulhu' last night - a New York private detective.
I thought I could do the accent without too much trouble.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
In other news, I had a new character to play in 'Call of Cthulhu' last night - a New York private detective.
I thought I could do the accent without too much trouble.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
You should text everything you want to say to Freehold and have him say it over voice chat. He could even ratchet up the black manliness should you need to seduce an otherworldly beauty.
Does that happen in Call of Cthulhu? Is there much boning with the cosmic horrors?
One would certainly hope not.
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C'mon. Work it. Seduce me.All kinds.No, pie.Also, we do not wear clothes on this particular side of the force.But do you have cookies?Tempting.
What kind of pie?
I would think that my having the ability and confidence to make any pie successfully would be all the seduction you would need.
But, if it's necessary I suppose I can roll out some pie dough without my shirt on.
Ok, go on. Work that dough.
Happy the thing you two.
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Our coffee maker broke. Fortunately I keep one in reserve in case this very thing happened.
We don't have a water softener so we go through coffee makers something fierce.
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Heppy birthday, GothBard.
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My new phone thinks I need to know it's updated itself at 3:45 every morning.
This is how a phone gets left on the other side of the house to charge overnight.
In other news, I had a new character to play in 'Call of Cthulhu' last night - a New York private detective.
I thought I could do the accent without too much trouble.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
You should text everything you want to say to Freehold and have him say it over voice chat. He could even ratchet up the black manliness should you need to seduce an otherworldly beauty.
Does that happen in Call of Cthulhu? Is there much boning with the cosmic horrors?
I think you'd have to have very specific & unusual to want to ponk anything that's been described to us so far. Having said that, lose a sufficient number of Sanity points, and maybe a sort of slavering tentacled maggot with toothed orifices, wearing a bow tie, sounds like just the thing to get your motor running
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And my Filipino espada y daga book has come, hahaaar. This should be fun to look at.
Was checking out the weapons last night, too. Around $400 for the set, which isn't too bad for something like that, but a), I don't have $400 lying around, and b) shipping costs will be dreadful.
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Struggle bus this morning. Where is my motivation?
The downside of the internet this week for me is seeing all the people on furlough doing all the things. Painting miniatures, building DF, and writing modules in particular.
I need moar time.
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I think you'd have to have very specific & unusual to want to ponk anything that's been described to us so far. Having said that, lose a sufficient number of Sanity points, and maybe a sort of slavering tentacled maggot with toothed orifices, wearing a bow tie, sounds like just the thing to get your motor runningIn other news, I had a new character to play in 'Call of Cthulhu' last night - a New York private detective.
I thought I could do the accent without too much trouble.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
You should text everything you want to say to Freehold and have him say it over voice chat. He could even ratchet up the black manliness should you need to seduce an otherworldly beauty.
Does that happen in Call of Cthulhu? Is there much boning with the cosmic horrors?
I am familiar with a few artists who made some Cthulhu hentai back in the day, as the relationship between how Cthulhu and his counterparts are described and the fisherman's wife's dream is quite obvious. I have also seen some western stuff too, but that was a long time ago, and I have not seen it since. It is possible that it was a group of works by one particular artist.
Struggle bus this morning. Where is my motivation?
The downside of the internet this week for me is seeing all the people on furlough doing all the things. Painting miniatures, building DF, and writing modules in particular.
I need moar time.
it is also quite interesting that in the series mentioned above, Nylarthotep is the main character.
I am sure this is a coincidence.
I really hope it is.
As I do not wish to go hopelessly mad.
Nah, that is my brother. Nyarlathotep. I am the drunk one. Not nearly as frightening.
Our coffee maker broke. Fortunately I keep one in reserve in case this very thing happened.
We don't have a water softener so we go through coffee makers something fierce.
you have hard water?
you have hard water?Our coffee maker broke. Fortunately I keep one in reserve in case this very thing happened.
We don't have a water softener so we go through coffee makers something fierce.
Oh, don't laugh. Pretty much any area that uses wells has appallingly bad water. Back when we lived in Davis we had to soak our shower head in vinegar every year or it would clog, and our landlord had a water softener hooked up to the washer so it wouldn't jam up.
Hard water's a major issue with areas that don't have access to high-quality runoff. (The Bay Area gets most of its water from the Sierra snowpack, so it's amazingly high-quality.)
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OK. Now I'm worried.
One of the issues with isolating in place is that unless you have a job where you're supposed to be checking in with people, you might get forgotten.
Impus Minor's chemistry teacher hasn't updated the students since March 19. We thought he was just being grossly irresponsible. Now we're finding out that no other teachers have heard from him either.
Crossing my fingers for him...
you have hard water?Our coffee maker broke. Fortunately I keep one in reserve in case this very thing happened.
We don't have a water softener so we go through coffee makers something fierce.
Oh, don't laugh. Pretty much any area that uses wells has appallingly bad water. Back when we lived in Davis we had to soak our shower head in vinegar every year or it would clog, and our landlord had a water softener hooked up to the washer so it wouldn't jam up.
Hard water's a major issue with areas that don't have access to high-quality runoff. (The Bay Area gets most of its water from the Sierra snowpack, so it's amazingly high-quality.)
Madison has really good water.
OK. Now I'm worried.
One of the issues with isolating in place is that unless you have a job where you're supposed to be checking in with people, you might get forgotten.
Impus Minor's chemistry teacher hasn't updated the students since March 19. We thought he was just being grossly irresponsible. Now we're finding out that no other teachers have heard from him either.
Crossing my fingers for him...
Oof. Best of luck.