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Apparently, the General's extended family are convinced every city is collapsing into anarchy.
This is what happens when you live in the country and get all your news from the nightly news.
Edit: I already live in the liberal Mecca of the Midwest, so this won't surprise them.
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...Chicago really *isn't* collapsing into anarchy.
I mean, gang shootings have been pretty much pushed from the news -- maybe the gangs are afraid of getting corona (and or getting pinched because they're out in numbers?)
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Yeah; it's funny. My biggest question is: What's happening to everyone who commits a crime right now? I mean, we're a region with 8 million people. I sincerely doubt that everyone is obeying the lockdown, and crime has suddenly and miraculously vanished. I know we released a whole slew of non-violent criminals to make room in the prisons.
So are we locking up the violent criminals and holding them without trial until the lockdown ends? I honestly have no idea, and it's something the newspapers just aren't interested in reporting on...
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We currently have a whole mess of inmates in our jail in quarantine.
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According to the police reports on the local news websites people are still being stupid (a guy just yesterday accidentally shot himself in the hand with a sawed off shotgun, which is illegal in Wisconsin), drunk driving, and shooting at each other.
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I still get passed by siren blaring cop cars on a semi daily basis, so crime is still going on here somewhere.
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According to the police reports on the local news websites people are still being stupid (a guy just yesterday accidentally shot himself in the hand with a sawed off shotgun, which is illegal in Wisconsin), drunk driving, and shooting at each other.
Only in Wisconsin would they make it specifically illegal to shoot yourself in the hand with a sawed off shotgun.
Sheesh. Talk about your intrusive government!
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According to the police reports on the local news websites people are still being stupid (a guy just yesterday accidentally shot himself in the hand with a sawed off shotgun, which is illegal in Wisconsin), drunk driving, and shooting at each other.Only in Wisconsin would they make it specifically illegal to shoot yourself in the hand with a sawed off shotgun.
Sheesh. Talk about your intrusive government!
Of course, if it happened in the country it wouldn't have been reported.
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As a complete side note, yet another reason I hate "blue laws" that insist on treating everyone by the lowest common denominator:
(1) Impus Major's immune system is the stuff of legend; in the last 5 years he's had under 10 sick days total. By comparison, both Impus Minor and I had the flu in both 2018 and 2019.
(2) At 18, Impus Major is in the, "coronavirus doesn't hit us as hard" demographic, while at 52, I'm in the, "You're a 52-year-old white male with asthma? Yeah, you're dead," demographic.
(3) The people at the corner store have known Impus Major since he was a toddler.
(4) Impus Major doesn't drink.
Yet if I want 2 pints of brown ale to make Vincent Price's beef carbonnade this evening, *I* have to go to the store because the state of California allows no exceptions to the "no purchasing alcohol if you're under 21" rule.
Because no one ever cooks with alcohol.
*SIGH*
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Apparently, the General's extended family are convinced every city is collapsing into anarchy.
This is what happens when you live in the country and get all your news from the nightly news.
Edit: I already live in the liberal Mecca of the Midwest, so this won't surprise them.
believe it or not, things are surprisingly okay here. The lack of things to do is starting to annoy, and I am seeing more people running in the mornings. Most are working from home, and taking pictures of the world from their windows. Some pictures are truly haunting, but others are serene.
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The nice thing about having worked in restaurants as a prep cook up to sous chef for 12 years and then another 17 landscaping with stone is, I can wash my hands in scalding hot water for 20 seconds easy!
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(2) At 18, Impus Major is in the, "coronavirus doesn't hit us as hard" demographic, while at 52, I'm in the, "You're a 52-year-old white male with asthma? Yeah, you're dead," demographic.
Okay when precisely is the age threshold that becomes an increased risk factor? Both of my parents are 59, but mom insists they're not old enough to be in any more of danger than me at 35. All other factors - minor respiratory allergies, high blood pressure, etc - are the same, more or less.
As they're leaving today to go on their two week out of state visit to the grandkids this came up in discussion, but dad not only wouldn't cancel the trip, he quickly scrambled to reschedule when their original flight was cancelled.
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In order to stave off The Madness I've taken to humming the beginning of a song and then one of the kids finishes humming it.
This, obviously, won't work for everyone.
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(2) At 18, Impus Major is in the, "coronavirus doesn't hit us as hard" demographic, while at 52, I'm in the, "You're a 52-year-old white male with asthma? Yeah, you're dead," demographic.
Okay when precisely is the age threshold that becomes an increased risk factor? Both of my parents are 59, but mom insists they're not old enough to be in any more of danger than me at 35. All other factors - minor respiratory allergies, high blood pressure, etc - are the same, more or less.
As they're leaving today to go on their two week out of state visit to the grandkids this came up in discussion, but dad not only wouldn't cancel the trip, he quickly scrambled to reschedule when their original flight was cancelled.
It varies week-by-week and depends on what media source/medical source you want to listen to.
I've heard everything from "over 50" to "over 70", so I'm just playing it safe.
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(2) At 18, Impus Major is in the, "coronavirus doesn't hit us as hard" demographic, while at 52, I'm in the, "You're a 52-year-old white male with asthma? Yeah, you're dead," demographic.
Okay when precisely is the age threshold that becomes an increased risk factor? Both of my parents are 59, but mom insists they're not old enough to be in any more of danger than me at 35. All other factors - minor respiratory allergies, high blood pressure, etc - are the same, more or less.
As they're leaving today to go on their two week out of state visit to the grandkids this came up in discussion, but dad not only wouldn't cancel the trip, he quickly scrambled to reschedule when their original flight was cancelled.
It varies week-by-week and depends on what media source/medical source you want to listen to.
I've heard everything from "over 50" to "over 70", so I'm just playing it safe.
Given their only source is Fox....
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So I started Googling alcohol in California, and the National Institute of Health has a fantastic website describing what's wrong with California:
(1) Underage possession has exceptions if you're with your parents.
(2) Underage consumption isn't explicitly forbidden.
(3) Furnishing alcohol to minors is an offense with no exceptions.
So apparently Impus Major can make his own drinks here in the house, but if *we* give him anything we're criminals.
*SIGH*
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That shitty job? Min wage AND only about 20 hours. Won't pay rent with that...
Landlord is evicting us cause Ohio banned foreclosure but not eviction. Cause f%%* poor people who can't buy a home.
We can't even afford a moving van to move in with Tala's mom back in Florida for free rent.
We are boned.
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Given their only source is Fox....
(2) At 18, Impus Major is in the, "coronavirus doesn't hit us as hard" demographic, while at 52, I'm in the, "You're a 52-year-old white male with asthma? Yeah, you're dead," demographic.
Okay when precisely is the age threshold that becomes an increased risk factor? Both of my parents are 59, but mom insists they're not old enough to be in any more of danger than me at 35. All other factors - minor respiratory allergies, high blood pressure, etc - are the same, more or less.
As they're leaving today to go on their two week out of state visit to the grandkids this came up in discussion, but dad not only wouldn't cancel the trip, he quickly scrambled to reschedule when their original flight was cancelled.
It varies week-by-week and depends on what media source/medical source you want to listen to.
I've heard everything from "over 50" to "over 70", so I'm just playing it safe.
Anyone who voted for Hillary...
At least that's what I assume Fox News is telling them.
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That s+~@ty job? Min wage AND only about 20 hours. Won't pay rent with that...
Landlord is evicting us cause Ohio banned foreclosure but not eviction. Cause f+$& poor people who can't buy a home.
We can't even afford a moving van to move in with Tala's mom back in Florida for free rent.
We are boned.
Ugh, that bites. Sorry man. Do you guys have an idea about what you're going to do?
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That s%$#ty job? Min wage AND only about 20 hours. Won't pay rent with that...
Landlord is evicting us cause Ohio banned foreclosure but not eviction. Cause f$$& poor people who can't buy a home.
We can't even afford a moving van to move in with Tala's mom back in Florida for free rent.
We are boned.
Pile as much shit into your car as you can and cough on them when you leave.
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That s&$*ty job? Min wage AND only about 20 hours. Won't pay rent with that...
Landlord is evicting us cause Ohio banned foreclosure but not eviction. Cause f!@~ poor people who can't buy a home.
We can't even afford a moving van to move in with Tala's mom back in Florida for free rent.
We are boned.
What can we do to help?
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Ugh, that bites. Sorry man. Do you guys have an idea about what you're going to do?That s+~@ty job? Min wage AND only about 20 hours. Won't pay rent with that...
Landlord is evicting us cause Ohio banned foreclosure but not eviction. Cause f+$& poor people who can't buy a home.
We can't even afford a moving van to move in with Tala's mom back in Florida for free rent.
We are boned.
Ny brother is going to float us enough to minimally pay for back rent, but that will only buy a little time. Still, it's something, at least, and I'm thankful for that.
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That s&$*ty job? Min wage AND only about 20 hours. Won't pay rent with that...
Landlord is evicting us cause Ohio banned foreclosure but not eviction. Cause f!@~ poor people who can't buy a home.
We can't even afford a moving van to move in with Tala's mom back in Florida for free rent.
We are boned.
What can we do to help?
I have no idea. Pray? Sponsor us for Netherlands immigration when this all blows over, because all my gripes about Murica are being proven by this crisis, I guess.
I thought of doing another GoFundMe, as it helped a lot last time, but there's folks with actual Covid symptoms who have real physical danger that might use the help more.
I hate waiting. I hate uncertainty. I want to take action and help my family and I feel so helpless and impotent.
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That s&$*ty job? Min wage AND only about 20 hours. Won't pay rent with that...
Landlord is evicting us cause Ohio banned foreclosure but not eviction. Cause f!@~ poor people who can't buy a home.
We can't even afford a moving van to move in with Tala's mom back in Florida for free rent.
We are boned.
What can we do to help?
I have no idea. Pray? Sponsor us for Netherlands immigration when this all blows over, because all my gripes about Murica are being proven by this crisis, I guess.
I thought of doing another GoFundMe, as it helped a lot last time, but there's folks with actual Covid symptoms who have real physical danger that might use the help more.
I hate waiting. I hate uncertainty. I want to take action and help my family and I feel so helpless and impotent.
Have you sought legal representation?
There may be attorneys who would take the case pro bono, and if the courts are shut for covid an eviction process shouldn't be able to get started?
Not a lawyer, just remembering back in the day here it took six months for the Sheriff's Department to show up.
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Yeah; it's funny. My biggest question is: What's happening to everyone who commits a crime right now? I mean, we're a region with 8 million people. I sincerely doubt that everyone is obeying the lockdown, and crime has suddenly and miraculously vanished. I know we released a whole slew of non-violent criminals to make room in the prisons.
So are we locking up the violent criminals and holding them without trial until the lockdown ends? I honestly have no idea, and it's something the newspapers just aren't interested in reporting on...
It may depend on your state. Few are at the point of suspending habeas corpus (at least that I have heard). Most are taking it as a only those cases which absolutely need to be heard will be heard. That includes a hearing by at least a magistrate within 48 hours (give or take) of arrest. At that hearing, eligibility for bail and amount will be set (if appropriate) and a hearing date set for a more substantive fact analysis.
So, for example, you get arrested for first time DUI at .09 (just above legal limit of .08) with no other legal issues, you are probably heard in the jail by the magistrate that night (unless a weekend, then you are always f$&&ed until monday). Released out on your signature with a trial date set 3-4 weeks from now. Your driving license is probably suspended. That trial may be continued depending on what the district attorney says/needs/can do based on the state of the courts.
If you have more of a history, or it is a more serious crime, you still get that initial hearing before a magistrate, but you may stay in jail until the trial is able to be had. So yeah those people are getting stuck in jail.
There will likely be some ACLU lawsuits over people being kept in jail without access to a "speedy trial." There will likely also be some lawsuits if anyone gets sick or dies while in jail. It remains to be seen whether those will be successful, or if the situation/good of all trumps the civil liberties of the comparatively few.
Again, this is not legal advice - don't go commit a crime thinking you will get speedy access to a magistrate.
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So, you're saying it has to be multiple crimes.
All at once, or can they be strung out over a period of time.
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So, you're saying it has to be multiple crimes.
All at once, or can they be strung out over a period of time.
I am saying that a few minor crimes or first offenders for not huge crimes probably get out without having to post bail.
The threshold for where you have to post bail is state dependent and sometimes even magistrate dependent. Did they have bad coffee as they came on shift. Did they not get a blowjob last night. Did the accused say "I slept with your mom when she was making bastards, but you are too old to be one of mine" Are you a flight risk?
But once bail is set (or a finding that it is not required), you can probably get out. If you get caught again doing something illegal before your trial on the first one, you probably don't get bail the second iteration.
Or not, maybe the magistrate is your brother in law and he wants you home to make his nephews and nieces.
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Got it Nylarthotep. I understand that setting one person on fire at a time will likely be overlooked. I just have to pace myself and spread it out. We're good.
(I hereby and in writing accept your boilerplate "this is not legal advice" and we do not have an attorney-client priv in place.)
Gov Pritzker announced from the podium yesterday, paraphrased, "this is not a time for law enforcement to go harassing people just because they see them outside. We want people to be policing themselves through this."
Pritzker was not my first choice for governor, but so far in his tenure I'm not upset by his performance. During this response in particular, he's been pretty damn good.
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All of that said, my next-door app (do they have those outside NC?) has been going ape poop about peoples' cars being rifled through. Apparently that is the new version of joy riding. Not much actual theft, but definitely going through your stuff and in some cases leaving it out on the yard.
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The WORLD is crazy,...
But I am sane.
No! It's true! I swear!
You can,... trust me,... :)
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And... we have the Coronavirus Rhapsody, of course...
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The whole concept of paying bail is also mind blowing to me.
Well, you can't keep rich people in jail! What are you thinking?!?!?!
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The whole concept of paying bail is also mind blowing to me.
What part is confusing? It is designed to make sure that you appear in court for your actual trial. If you do not so appear, then you forfeit the bail. Since it is usually secured by property or a bail bond issued by a bondsman, you have a strong incentive to appear.
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The whole concept of paying bail is also mind blowing to me.What part is confusing? It is designed to make sure that you appear in court for your actual trial. If you do not so appear, then you forfeit the bail. Since it is usually secured by property or a bail bond issued by a bondsman, you have a strong incentive to appear.
I think the confusing part is letting people go in the first place.
Suppose I go out and commit a random murder, because the lockdown is driving me stir crazy. Up until that moment, I've been a fine, upstanding citizen. I have a family and a home in the area. The judge sets my bail at $1 million, and I put up my house as collateral. Well, my brain has already snapped, and the house no longer means anything to me, so I just wander off, never to be seen again, and free to commit another murder if I feel like it.
I think that's her confusion. The judge is trying to make a judgement call, "Is it safe to release this person on bail?", and sometimes they're wrong.
I think what people miss is that for petty crimes, it's quite effective. I shoplifted $500 worth of stuff. Bail is set at $1000. I'd be an idiot to skip bail.
EDIT: The issue is that people accused of violent crimes can frequently make bail. That baffles most people.
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Gordon Ramsey: Be careful with that hanger steak as they can be temperamental
Contestant on MasterChef: I actually read a book recently that said they weren't that hard to cook, so I'm not worried!
Gordon Ramsey: Just make sure you're careful, if you cook it right, it'll be the star of the night!
Contestant: Well, it's just grilling a piece of meat, how hard can it be!
Guess who was eliminated.
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Wait, they actually give bail back?
Depends. If you show up and if you have no court costs, yes, you can get your bail money back. If you have court costs, the bail money is applied to the court costs. If X > Y, then you still owe money. If Y > X, you get a partial refund.
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I've only gotten one misdemeanor ticket and I plan on keeping it that way.
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Shiro put forth this interesting little bit:
There are 3 types of people: "older - didn't really notice a change, has a cupboard... and it's full. Can go months without care"... + "Middle - lives week to week, shops at least 1x every week, has no real stored anything, is impacted by the PITA situation but makes due with what's there."
And the last... "I shop 5x a week, eat out every night, have NO stored anything, have no way to judge what I actually NEED for a week as I've never actually done things that way... so I buy everything I can find and put it in my living room".
And it explained the hoarding really well. I hate to shop. So I go to Costco once every two months, buy $600 worth of stuff, and stuff all my pantry, garage freezer, and cabinets with TP, paper towels, and frozen food just so I don't have to shop again. Then I go to the corner store 2-3 times a week to get fresh vegetables and anything I wouldn't buy at Costco.
But for people who've never actually had to PLAN their shopping, this is indeed the apocalypse.
Kind of interesting.
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Nerves are starting to fray for me at work. We are building the plane while we are flying it, and it is frustrating.
This sounds like the worst Airplane remake ever. Hopefully your bosses Orville and Wilbur Wrong won't attempt to put 'er down in the Hudson in an emergency.
Freehold, clearly you are Dr. Rumack. Remember to order the lasagna instead of the fish or chicken.
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Ok, that's a good one I just saw.
[spoiler]What strange times we live in, when people strongly smelling of alcohol are the responsible ones.[spoiler]
If whatever they're drinking is at least 140 proof, it'll kill covid-19.
Oh lordy, I have moonshiner family in rural Arkansas that may be immune to coronavirus infection.
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Parents just left for their flight, which got cancelled and rescheduled again. If it happens a third time they plan to just come back home.
I'm torn between "yay I get the house to myself for two weeks, I can have a few days of blissful stress reduction from not having to listen to Fox News rhetoric and Trump soundbites" and "this is incredibly stupid, stubborn, and risky, they are not taking the pandemic at all seriously, at best they only risk themselves and me when they get back, at worst they put my brother, SIL, and nieces and their extended family at risk also".
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Wait, they actually give bail back?Depends. If you show up and if you have no court costs, yes, you can get your bail money back. If you have court costs, the bail money is applied to the court costs. If X > Y, then you still owe money. If Y > X, you get a partial refund.
indeed. Bail is a great way for the city/state to make money.
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Parents just left for their flight, which got cancelled and rescheduled again. If it happens a third time they plan to just come back home.
I'm torn between "yay I get the house to myself for two weeks, I can have a few days of blissful stress reduction from not having to listen to Fox News rhetoric and Trump soundbites" and "this is incredibly stupid, stubborn, and risky, they are not taking the pandemic at all seriously, at best they only risk themselves and me when they get back, at worst they put my brother, SIL, and nieces and their extended family at risk also".
Drive out there and bring your folks back. Tell them you will let them listen to Trumps Trumps greatest speeches on the way home.
You dont want to lose them to something THIS avoidable.
Just spent the better part of a day yelling at two peoole on my caseload who got this by being incredibly STUPID.
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Parents just left for their flight, which got cancelled and rescheduled again. If it happens a third time they plan to just come back home.
I'm torn between "yay I get the house to myself for two weeks, I can have a few days of blissful stress reduction from not having to listen to Fox News rhetoric and Trump soundbites" and "this is incredibly stupid, stubborn, and risky, they are not taking the pandemic at all seriously, at best they only risk themselves and me when they get back, at worst they put my brother, SIL, and nieces and their extended family at risk also".
Drive out there and bring your folks back. Tell them you will let them listen to Trumps Trumps greatest speeches on the way home.
You dont want to lose them to something THIS avoidable.
Just spent the better part of a day yelling at two peoole on my caseload who got this by being incredibly STUPID.
I had that conversation with Mom last night. She mostly agreed (other than insisting that, at 59, she and Dad were no greater at risk than me at 35, all other factors being the same) but Dad has been insistent and when he puts his foot down Mom complies. The fact that she got him to agree to a "three strikes we're out" measure if their flight gets cancelled again is about the only consolation he's willing to give.