Deep 6 FaWtL

[Tacticslion]

TriOmegaZero wrote:

Freehold DM wrote:

in many ways bravely default is FFT and ffta on steroids.

One of these days I'll have the time to play it and can justify picking up the system for it.

What is this game, and how can I own it?!

Also, I greatly prefer the original FFT to FFTA for a few reasons. Though the latter has the awesome "judges" mechanic and additional races/classes, I generally prefer the "feel" of the former: the abilities were things you chose when you leveled up, not things that required specific items to be equipped while you learned it; the tone and "maturity" of the story "felt" superior; and the fact that I can play it on not-a-tiny-screen. This in no way makes FFTA a bad game - simply that I prefer the original to the quasi-but-not-really sequel. Similarly, I prefer FFT to Tactics Ogre, though for slightly different reasons - I like the inventory and class systems of FFT a bit better and the actual spell-and-skill mechanics, and the story is a bit less padded than TO's felt like it; also, though this is the least of things, I liked the look of FFT a tad more. That said, all are entirely worthwhile games that should be played at some point.

[Freehold DM]

Actually, I'm a bit off- BD is FFV on steroids.

[Freehold DM]

Tacticslion wrote:

TriOmegaZero wrote:

Freehold DM wrote:

in many ways bravely default is FFT and ffta on steroids.

One of these days I'll have the time to play it and can justify picking up the system for it.

What is this game, and how can I own it?!

Also, I greatly prefer the original FFT to FFTA for a few reasons. Though the latter has the awesome "judges" mechanic and additional races/classes, I generally prefer the "feel" of the former: the abilities were things you chose when you leveled up, not things that required specific items to be equipped while you learned it; the tone and "maturity" of the story "felt" superior; and the fact that I can play it on not-a-tiny-screen. This in no way makes FFTA a bad game - simply that I prefer the original to the quasi-but-not-really sequel. Similarly, I prefer FFT to Tactics Ogre, though for slightly different reasons - I like the inventory and class systems of FFT a bit better and the actual spell-and-skill mechanics, and the story is a bit less padded than TO's felt like it; also, though this is the least of things, I liked the look of FFT a tad more. That said, all are entirely worthwhile games that should be played at some point.

We have NDSXL now.

[Tacticslion]

Que?

[gran rey de los mono]

Freehold DM wrote:

We have NDSXL now.

Never Drink Sour Xylophone Liquid?

New Detroit Seems Xtra Lonely?

No-one Drives Semis Xcept Lyle?

Nothing Dumps Squid Xtract Livelier?

Now Don't See Xtreme Losers?

New DS XL?

[Kajehase]

Dear lord! It's March already!?

[gran rey de los mono]

Kajehase wrote:

Dear lord! It's March already!?

Yeah, and I got 8" of snow yesterday. I'm sick of this s~@#. It's almost enough to make me consider moving to Arizona with my brother, but that's not going to happen.

[Ambrosia Slaad]

Freehold DM wrote:

captain yesterday wrote:

yeah happy birthday!

unrelated is The Dress black and blue or white and gold;-p
sorry but i gotta know what others think my wife and i think differently and the kids are also undecided

for those who care what we think it is

Spoiler:

My wife, son, daughter = Black and Blue
myself and my dad = white and gold

it has honestly been a quite perplexing and fascinating experience:-)
helps fight back against the winter blahs:-)

its kinda cool, so long as people don't get heated over it.

It's...

Spoiler:

{cue "The Liberty Bell" march} Moorluck FaWTLon's Flying Circus

Spoiler:

The dress always looks olive-brown and light sky blue to me.

Regardless of the color, I'll guarantee that dress makes me look fat.

[Ambrosia Slaad]

Belated Happy Birthday to Drejk!

[Ambrosia Slaad]

David M Mallon wrote:

I really do have an amazing ability to say really dumb s%~$ to people...

That's my secret, Cap: I'm always saying dumb s$*%.

[Drejk]

*yawn* Father is coming again today and will stay for ten days.

[Freehold DM]

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

David M Mallon wrote:

I really do have an amazing ability to say really dumb s%~$ to people...

That's my secret, Cap: I'm always saying dumb s%%$.

sums up the movie perfectly.

[Freehold DM]

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

Freehold DM wrote:

captain yesterday wrote:

yeah happy birthday!

unrelated is The Dress black and blue or white and gold;-p
sorry but i gotta know what others think my wife and i think differently and the kids are also undecided

for those who care what we think it is

** spoiler omitted **

it has honestly been a quite perplexing and fascinating experience:-)
helps fight back against the winter blahs:-)

its kinda cool, so long as people don't get heated over it.

It's...** spoiler omitted **

** spoiler omitted **

Regardless of the color, I'll guarantee that dress makes me look fat.

nonsense. Eat the dress. Save the world.

[Orthos]

Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:

Orthos wrote:

Drejk wrote:

It would have to be a PC game, though!

Eh, less interested, unless it's playable with a console-style controller anyway, like the Steam ports of FF games.

You take that back! Glorious PC Master Race über alles!

nope.avi

I play plenty of PC games myself, but RPGs are a platform that requires console controller command/input format. I've tried playing emulated SNES/Gameboy/GBA/DS games via computer keyboard and it is a PAIN. Click-and-play is even worse, that style of input should be reserved for games that cater to it - click-to-interact adventures like Sam and Max or Monkey Island.

[Orthos]

Freehold DM wrote:

Ambrosia Slaad wrote:

David M Mallon wrote:

I really do have an amazing ability to say really dumb s%~$ to people...

That's my secret, Cap: I'm always saying dumb s%%$.

sums up the movie perfectly.

Silly Freehold, your jealousy is very visible

[Orthos]

Tacticslion wrote:

TriOmegaZero wrote:

Freehold DM wrote:

in many ways bravely default is FFT and ffta on steroids.

One of these days I'll have the time to play it and can justify picking up the system for it.

What is this game, and how can I own it?!

Bravely Default is a Square RPG for the 3DS. This comparison is pretty inaccurate, as FH corrected later - it's more like FFV than any tactical games, having the usual RPG team-on-team turn-based combat and FFV's rotating job class system (though heavily polished and expanded). I'm trying to finish the downloadable demo before I start the game proper, which inevitably involves grinding at least a little, and between work, PF games, NWN, and other hobbies, I haven't had as much time for sitting down with the handhelds lately.

[captain yesterday]

I've had my Xbox360 for 9 years now and still the only 2 games i've beaten are Lego Indiana Jones and Halo 3, although i'm 20th level in elder scroll: oblivion (game of the year edition)

[Icyshadow]

Okay, now I've had this flu torment me for almost a week. This sucks!

[Sharoth]

captain yesterday wrote:

Orthos wrote:

captain yesterday wrote:

So CotCT is the Batman AP:)

they really need to say that in the description:-)

Pretty much. Heck, given Blackjack is looking for a successor, it's kind of like Batman Beyond without the tech.

It also has shades of Princess Bride and the Dread Pirate Roberts

Inconceivable!!!

[Freehold DM]

Orthos wrote:

Tacticslion wrote:

TriOmegaZero wrote:

Freehold DM wrote:

in many ways bravely default is FFT and ffta on steroids.

One of these days I'll have the time to play it and can justify picking up the system for it.

What is this game, and how can I own it?!

Bravely Default is a Square RPG for the 3DS. This comparison is pretty inaccurate, as FH corrected later - it's more like FFV than any tactical games, having the usual RPG team-on-team turn-based combat and FFV's rotating job class system (though heavily polished and expanded). I'm trying to finish the downloadable demo before I start the game proper, which inevitably involves grinding at least a little, and between work, PF games, NWN, and other hobbies, I haven't had as much time for sitting down with the handhelds lately.

Don't know why I made that mistake. Maybe it's time to game the classics again.

[Freehold DM]

gran rey de los mono wrote:

Kajehase wrote:

Dear lord! It's March already!?

Yeah, and I got 8" of snow yesterday. I'm sick of this s&@@. It's almost enough to make me consider moving to Arizona with my brother, but that's not going to happen.

you have chosen wisely. Why leave winter's ample snowy bosom for the pettanko-ness of mono-summer?

[Sharoth]

Celestial Healer wrote:

Almost to the end of Dragon Age: Inquisition. I have to decide what is next. Replay, or something else?

~sharpens my knives~ Oh, you could play Skyrim.

[Sharoth]

David M Mallon wrote:

Celestial Healer wrote:

Almost to the end of Dragon Age: Inquisition. I have to decide what is next. Replay, or something else?

Mass Effect.

Thant will be next after I finish playing Skyrim.

[Freehold DM]

MASS EFFECT FEMSHEP FOR LIFE!!!

[Sharoth]

Icyshadow wrote:

Okay, now I've had this flu torment me for almost a week. This sucks!

I hope you feel better soon, Icy.

[captain yesterday]

Sharoth wrote:

captain yesterday wrote:

Orthos wrote:

captain yesterday wrote:

So CotCT is the Batman AP:)

they really need to say that in the description:-)

Pretty much. Heck, given Blackjack is looking for a successor, it's kind of like Batman Beyond without the tech.

It also has shades of Princess Bride and the Dread Pirate Roberts

Inconceivable!!!

You wanna get in a land war in Asia over it?

[captain yesterday]

40 by Saturday! (so they say)

already got my shorts and Hawaiian Shirt ready to go:-p
Its gonna be the warmest f~@~ing 40 degrees since last spring!

[Balrog]

60s/70s here this week, if rainy. Huzzah!

[Freehold DM]

captain yesterday wrote:

40 by Saturday! (so they say)

already got my shorts and Hawaiian Shirt ready to go:-p
Its gonna be the warmest f$%%ing 40 degrees since last spring!

hisses

[Freehold DM]

Balrog wrote:

60s/70s here this week, if rainy. Huzzah!

growls

[Mecharagezilla]

Freehold DM wrote:

Balrog wrote:

60s/70s here this week, if rainy. Huzzah!

growls

POWER SOURCE: FRUSTRATION

AUXILIARY FUEL CELL TANKS AT 100%

[captain yesterday]

Freehold DM wrote:

captain yesterday wrote:

40 by Saturday! (so they say)

already got my shorts and Hawaiian Shirt ready to go:-p
Its gonna be the warmest f$%%ing 40 degrees since last spring!

hisses

maybe sub-zero temps and feet upon feet of snow are cool for you, but i have kids, and they are tearing my house up, they have also almost completely taken over every means of entertainment, so what am i supposed to do, besides sit by the kitchen window drink s~&#loads of coffee and watch the cows stroll by:-p

i'm kidding of course, even though i live in Wisconsin, i live in the big city, so cows do more of a mosey then a stroll:-p

[Tacticslion]

Man, I've been running into a lot of old threads lately that, when combined with a raft of more recent posts, have made me feel less and less respectful and more and more frustrated at some folks who, though I tend to disagree with them, I at least found intelligent and rational. :/

I... I don't like not liking people or thinking, "That's stupid, you should feel stupid." when reading their posts. :(

This does not, by any means, apply to everyone I tend to disagree with. There have just been, like, five old threads I've read lately with rather vehement discussion where one side holds such an obviously-incoherent argument that it's just... just... ugh. And it's not even that they hold that view! That's fine! It's how arrogant and condescending they are about it! And then they have the nerve to tell peo- ARG! I'm ranting! :(

[Drejk]

Orthos wrote:

Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:

Orthos wrote:

Drejk wrote:

It would have to be a PC game, though!

Eh, less interested, unless it's playable with a console-style controller anyway, like the Steam ports of FF games.

You take that back! Glorious PC Master Race über alles!

nope.avi

I play plenty of PC games myself, but RPGs are a platform that requires console controller command/input format. I've tried playing emulated SNES/Gameboy/GBA/DS games via computer keyboard and it is a PAIN.

Uh... My experience is exactly opposite: controllers are crap, mouse plus keyboard is so much better...

[TOZ]

Drejk wrote:

Uh... My experience is exactly opposite: controllers are crap, mouse plus keyboard is so much better...

You shut your mouth.

[aeglos]

hi everyone,

still busy

boy and wife are a bit less ill,

instead I seem to get thecold now :-/

[Tacticslion]

:/

Hope you get better!

[aeglos]

Freehold DM wrote:

Drejk wrote:

Black and blue.

Which also happens to be actual color scheme of the dress confirmed by its maker.

Seems that your eyes betrayed you captain.

it's white and gold dammit! flips table

*pulls table upright again*

am I the only person who can see the correct color, it is blue and gold

[aeglos]

happy belated birthday, Drejk

[aeglos]

Tacticslion wrote:

:/

Hope you get better!

thank you :-)

[TriOmegaZero]

Either way, it's still an ugly dress.

[Orthos]

Drejk wrote:

Orthos wrote:

Kelsey Arwen MacAilbert wrote:

Orthos wrote:

Drejk wrote:

It would have to be a PC game, though!

Eh, less interested, unless it's playable with a console-style controller anyway, like the Steam ports of FF games.

You take that back! Glorious PC Master Race über alles!

nope.avi

I play plenty of PC games myself, but RPGs are a platform that requires console controller command/input format. I've tried playing emulated SNES/Gameboy/GBA/DS games via computer keyboard and it is a PAIN.

Uh... My experience is exactly opposite: controllers are crap, mouse plus keyboard is so much better...

For RPGs? Specifically turn-based JRPGs such as Final Fantasy and the like or tactical games like FFT or Fire Emblem? How exactly is keyboard more efficient? And I've never seen one use a mouse at all.

[Freehold DM]

Tacticslion wrote:

Man, I've been running into a lot of old threads lately that, when combined with a raft of more recent posts, have made me feel less and less respectful and more and more frustrated at some folks who, though I tend to disagree with them, I at least found intelligent and rational. :/

I... I don't like not liking people or thinking, "That's stupid, you should feel stupid." when reading their posts. :(

This does not, by any means, apply to everyone I tend to disagree with. There have just been, like, five old threads I've read lately with rather vehement discussion where one side holds such an obviously-incoherent argument that it's just... just... ugh. And it's not even that they hold that view! That's fine! It's how arrogant and condescending they are about it! And then they have the nerve to tell peo- ARG! I'm ranting! :(

what always helps me is the realization and acceptance of the fact that this is the internet. I love paizo. I love the messageboards. I would enter carnal relations with the FAWTL thread if I could. However, this is the internet, where people lose their s~*@ and get into vitriolic arguments where threats of death ensue over the most minor of disagreements, fall over laughing until stomach cramps ensue because a cat did something slightly cute, and third parties call the police to an acquaintances house in another state due to a spectacularly bad case of broken telephone in a live chat session.

Spoiler:

yes, that happened. I wont go into details, but it was embarrasing for all involved.

long story short, Keep interactions low-key. Conserve anger for when it's really important. And never, ever let a troll get to you.

[TriOmegaZero]

Orthos wrote:

For RPGs? Specifically turn-based JRPGs such as Final Fantasy and the like or tactical games like FFT or Fire Emblem? How exactly is keyboard more efficient? And I've never seen one use a mouse at all.

I should sit back down with Utawarerumono again...

[captain yesterday]

TriOmegaZero wrote:

Either way, it's still an ugly dress.

Tips Cow

Dammit!

Looks at the picture again

Oh, sorry you're right, habit i guess

[Orthos]

I guess I can see the stylus on a 3/DS being fairly analogous to a mouse, that's how DeSmuMe does it after all.

[Ted, Professional MurderHobo]

Freehold DM wrote:

Tacticslion wrote:

Man, I've been running into a lot of old threads lately that, when combined with a raft of more recent posts, have made me feel less and less respectful and more and more frustrated at some folks who, though I tend to disagree with them, I at least found intelligent and rational. :/

I... I don't like not liking people or thinking, "That's stupid, you should feel stupid." when reading their posts. :(

This does not, by any means, apply to everyone I tend to disagree with. There have just been, like, five old threads I've read lately with rather vehement discussion where one side holds such an obviously-incoherent argument that it's just... just... ugh. And it's not even that they hold that view! That's fine! It's how arrogant and condescending they are about it! And then they have the nerve to tell peo- ARG! I'm ranting! :(

where people lose their s#~~ and get into vitriolic arguments where threats of death ensue over the most minor of disagreements,

How dare you say that about me I'll kill you, I'll kill you all wait, what were we talking about?

so, uh anyway who's up for some coffee?

[Goin' For A Troll]

Freehold DM wrote:

And never, ever let a troll get to you.

Man, not cool.

[Successful Troll is Successful]

Successful Troll request fellow posters be sensitive to Successful Troll's feelings.

Successful Troll still bleed when pricked, despite Successful Troll's regeneration.

[OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVEOS]

Damn you to hell Freehold.