I wonder if Quisling would find this topic dazzling.
probably about the same time they ditch half-elf.
It's more about not being 'hobbit' then anything else. I go with the Mystaran term of 'hyn' myself.
==Aelryinth
I tend to think that most campaign settings' bigoted and racist terms for halfling are more creative.
So will we see D&D clean up its act and ditch the 'Halfling'?
Whatever you end up calling them, just make sure you don't call them late for dinner! Yuk-yuk-yuk. <drum riff>
<Tom runs for the door.>
Halfling means less than Half (a man).
Halfling means less than Half.
NotHalfling means less than Half (a man).
3' is less than 6'. Less of a height, not less of a man.
I did kind of like that the hin name got recycled into the Forgotten Realms, but then again, Ed Greenwood wrote the Mystara book on Halflings as well . . .
Think I'll stick with Hobbit or Halfling at my table... really lost on why I'd change the name.
Next thing you know, some precious little flower with overly sensitive hormones and delicate sensibilities will try tell us that 'Dwarf' is 'offensive'.
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Think I'll stick with Hobbit or Halfling at my table... really lost on why I'd change the name.
Next thing you know, some precious little flower with overly sensitive hormones and delicate sensibilities will try tell us that 'Dwarf' is 'offensive'.
But... but dwarves ARE offensive!
But... but dwarves ARE offensive!
Dwarves are, on soooo many levels. I couldn't be in more violent agreement.
But Dwarf is not.
:)
Hasn't a similar argument been presented that "MANkind" and "huMANity" excludes the other sex?
Yes it has, but fortunately the normal thinking right minded remainder of the populace just ignored the fringe numpties and moved on.
But... but dwarves ARE offensive!Think I'll stick with Hobbit or Halfling at my table... really lost on why I'd change the name.
Next thing you know, some precious little flower with overly sensitive hormones and delicate sensibilities will try tell us that 'Dwarf' is 'offensive'.
At least they're not revolting like those pesky Galtans.
Hasn't a similar argument been presented that "MANkind" and "huMANity" excludes the other sex?
Don't forget "HIStory"!
I don't have a problem with it. Like George R. R. Martin wrote: "Sharp swords and strong arms rule the world." ;-)
(Although I wish they'd do something about "MANgled". That one just creeps me out.)
Or WoMAN (or WoMEN).
I tend to call halflings "peck".
"Ooh, I'm really scared. No! Don't! There's a- a peck here with an acorn pointed at me! " -Madmartigan
Let's just agree to call 'em Furfoots and be done with it.
"Furfeet!"
I usually rename them IMC; usually sticking with 'Hin'. If characters start using the derogatory 'halfling' term, my hin will usually reciprocate by calling the big'uns "doublings", "two-hundred-percentlings" or "giant-kin".
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-ling is used to make little of the attatched association. Mousling - means less than a mouse, Halfling means less than Half (a man). So will we see D&D clean up its act and ditch the 'Halfling'?
Actually, -ling means someone who is, resembles, or is interested in _. Therefore an earthling and a changeling can have fingerlings with a yearling while planting seedlings and none of it is offensive or pejorative. In fact, since most game world describe Hin as looking child-like, childling would perhaps be a more apt use of the term.
So, 'Hin' will be the male equivalent and 'Hir' will be the feminine. /sarcasm
Hasn't a similar argument been presented that "MANkind" and "huMANity" excludes the other sex?Yes it has, but fortunately the normal thinking right minded remainder of the populace just ignored the fringe numpties and moved on.
+1 on ignoring fringe numpties and moving on.
hin is analogous to 'human', not "male halfling". I use the hyn instead of hin (looks better) spelling. Genders would be hyn-sir and hyn-dam, with any other status/rank colloquilisms on top.
==Aelryinth
hin is analogous to 'human', not "male halfling". I use the hyn instead of hin (looks better) spelling. Genders would be hyn-sir and hyn-dam, with any other status/rank colloquilisms on top.
==Aelryinth
I said I was being sarcastic. ;-)
What about the wominotaurs?
What about the wominotaurs?
(... or the womanticores? lol)
Merman... Mermaid.
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Minute Man... Minute Maid. LOL!!
Ultradan
What about the wominotaurs?
Oh you met my ex-girlfriend then?
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-ling is used to make little of the attatched association. Mousling - means less than a mouse, Halfling means less than Half (a man). So will we see D&D clean up its act and ditch the 'Halfling'?Actually, -ling means someone who is, resembles, or is interested in _. Therefore an earthling and a changeling can have fingerlings with a yearling while planting seedlings and none of it is offensive or pejorative. In fact, since most game world describe Hin as looking child-like, childling would perhaps be a more apt use of the term.
Kobito is Midgit in Japanese...it is also the Japanese term for halfling in the Japanese D&D rulebooks.
Could just call them 'Kobi' or 'Bit' as in bit o this bit o that but only a little bit...
-ling is used to make little of the attatched association. Mousling - means less than a mouse, Halfling means less than Half (a man). So will we see D&D clean up its act and ditch the 'Halfling'?Actually, -ling means someone who is, resembles, or is interested in _. Therefore an earthling and a changeling can have fingerlings with a yearling while planting seedlings and none of it is offensive or pejorative. In fact, since most game world describe Hin as looking child-like, childling would perhaps be a more apt use of the term.Kobito is Midgit in Japanese...it is also the Japanese term for halfling in the Japanese D&D rulebooks.
Could just call them 'Kobi' or 'Bit' as in bit o this bit o that but only a little bit...
I was gonna go with Chibi or Bozu....
And what about how most MANnequins are actually Femalequins!
Ahem. feMALE...
A bit more information on the diminutive suffix, for those actually interested.
I can honestly say that in 20+ years of gameing I have never ever given any thought until now about what a made up race should be called.
* jumps in with both feet*
First of all lets assume that somebody actually cares what a bunch of halflings care to be called, their half the size of men so halfling works. If they call themselves hin then so be it but in every book I have ever read their halflings, I guess we could call them the hin-ny.
The entire race is useless except for comic relief, they were included so that all the folks that wanted to make up their own brave little bilbo could do so but as far as actual game mechanics go they are very behind the power curve. sure the +1 to ac is nice but the slower movement rate makes them easy targets when it's time to run away.
Lets look at the other races in comparison shall we.
Elves= masters of magic and very long life spans
dwarves= long life span and master craftsmen
humans= masters of everything but not for very long
orcs= brutal savages, respected by enemies for fighting abilities.
Gnomes= illusionists and rogues and very curious by nature.
Halflings= hate adventureing because it takes then away from home and family, notoriouly lazy.
As you may have well guessed I m not a fan of halflings in any light and am very biased because of it.
I realise that they may be part of tolkiens setting but I am not a fan of his writings either so I have no problem butchering one of his settings sacred cows.
I fully realise that my OPINION is in the distinct minority but there it is.
The fantasy settings would have been better of if the little people had been left out.
A bit more information on the diminutive suffix, for those actually interested.Lord Buzz Killington?
Think: Lord Buzz Killington with a doctorate and a chainsaw.
HO-bbit is about as denigrating to women as HO-me, HO-t water and TV show HOst... considering that Santa got into trouble for saying Ho-ho-ho...
And hey, it's better than "freaking munchkin".
"Halfling" is still more polite than most of Golarion's other terms for the race. For instance, some of the Kaer Magan terms presented in City of Strangers include "ankle-biter" and "bend" (the latter reserved for attractive halflings and gnomes, implying that they're "worth bending down for"), both of which bear sexual connotations.
"Halfling" is still more polite than most of Golarion's other terms for the race. For instance, some of the Kaer Magan terms presented in City of Strangers include "ankle-biter" and "bend" (the latter reserved for attractive halflings and gnomes, implying that they're "worth bending down for"), both of which bear sexual connotations.
No love for the bearded femme fatale dwarves?
What?
:p
"Halfling" is still more polite than most of Golarion's other terms for the race. For instance, some of the Kaer Magan terms presented in City of Strangers include "ankle-biter" and "bend" (the latter reserved for attractive halflings and gnomes, implying that they're "worth bending down for"), both of which bear sexual connotations.
THIS IS AWESOME!!!
I'm letting the halfling player in my Darklight Sisterhood game know of this immediately.
Also, in my homebrew, halflings often use the term "climber" amongst themselves both pejoratively and cheekily for many of the same reasons people in Kaer Magan use "bend", although I'm thinking climber has somewhat cruder sexual connotations.
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"Halfling" is still more polite than most of Golarion's other terms for the race. For instance, some of the Kaer Magan terms presented in City of Strangers include "ankle-biter" and "bend" (the latter reserved for attractive halflings and gnomes, implying that they're "worth bending down for"), both of which bear sexual connotations.
THIS IS AWESOME!!!
I'm letting the halfling player in my Darklight Sisterhood game know of this immediately.
Also, in my homebrew, halflings often use the term "climber" amongst themselves both pejoratively and cheekily for many of the same reasons people in Kaer Magan use "bend", although I'm thinking climber has somewhat cruder sexual connotations.
Wow
Wow"Halfling" is still more polite than most of Golarion's other terms for the race. For instance, some of the Kaer Magan terms presented in City of Strangers include "ankle-biter" and "bend" (the latter reserved for attractive halflings and gnomes, implying that they're "worth bending down for"), both of which bear sexual connotations.
THIS IS AWESOME!!!
I'm letting the halfling player in my Darklight Sisterhood game know of this immediately.
Also, in my homebrew, halflings often use the term "climber" amongst themselves both pejoratively and cheekily for many of the same reasons people in Kaer Magan use "bend", although I'm thinking climber has somewhat cruder sexual connotations.
Hmmm -biter...
Let's call them Nethernibblers...
Or just Nibblers...
Niblets?