
Jeff de luna |

It's from the Persian/Iranian "Yazata" referring to a type of angel or demigod serving Ahura Mazda/Ormazd in Zoroasterianism. See here.

Jeff de luna |

Ravingdork wrote:Why the heck didn't they keep the Y?I, for one, am missing the "y" now that I know it should have been there.
OP-related question: Does anyone have a link to a description of a mythological agathion that's better than the one-sentence stub currently posted on Wikipedia?
That description comes from Lewis Spence, the occultist. "Agathion," or the good one, the little lucky one (Greek), may be related to the Agathodaimon, the good daimon, similar to our notion of a Guardian Angel. For the latter creature, see Betz, Hans Dieter (1997), The Greek Magical Papyri in Translation. See also here.

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Epic Meepo wrote:Ravingdork wrote:Why the heck didn't they keep the Y?I, for one, am missing the "y" now that I know it should have been there.It's the infamous Sometimes Y. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.
Also, azatas are CG. Isn't that reason enough for the missing Y?
Schrödinger's Y?

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Jeff de luna wrote:and also alliteration.Ravingdork wrote:Why the heck didn't they keep the Y?Probably to preserve the angel, agathion, archon assonance.
Alliteration is when you have a series of consonants, assonance is when you have a series of vowels. They're otherwise the same thing.

Psiphyre |

I think it's made up by Paizo. It was invented becasue a) for some strange reason WotC left the eladrin+lillend open content but not the name "Eladrin" and b) it fits into major good outsiders starting their names with an "A" (angel, agathion, archon, azata).
Corrected that for you (didn't intend to be rude). The guardinals of WotC are called agathions in Pathfinder, hence their CG alignment as mentioned by Ambrosia Slaad above.
Just to avoid any confusion that may arise...
-- C.

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We didn't keep the "y" in Yazata because our take on these celestial beings differs relatively widely from the real-world myths (since our azatas were already locked in with creatures like the ghaele and the like), and because dropping the "y" preserved an amusing "all the good guy outsider races start with an "A".
Agathions, on the other hand, are nature spirits, and so that worked PERFECTLY for our version of guardinals, since the neutral good race is very animal-associated. So we didn't change that name at all.

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Gorbacz wrote:I think it's made up by Paizo. It was invented becasue a) for some strange reason WotC left the eladrin+lillend open content but not the name "Eladrin" and b) it fits into major good outsiders starting their names with an "A" (angel, agathion, archon, azata).Corrected that for you (didn't intend to be rude). The guardinals of WotC are called agathions in Pathfinder, hence their CG alignment as mentioned by Ambrosia Slaad above.
Just to avoid any confusion that may arise...
-- C.
Thanks for the correction, I got my asomethings confused with asomeotherthings :)

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Merlin Porkins wrote:Alliteration is when you have a series of consonants, assonance is when you have a series of vowels. They're otherwise the same thing.Jeff de luna wrote:and also alliteration.Ravingdork wrote:Why the heck didn't they keep the Y?Probably to preserve the angel, agathion, archon assonance.
I stand corrected. And educated.