link to the..."Serious: I can't believe I just read this" thread
Penélope Cruz and Javier Bardem Are Having an Anchor Baby
At least Fox News can now openly admit their racism...
That seems pretty openly inflammatory to me. Not only that, we have been recently reminded, by Liz, of the thread at the top of the OTD subforum...
"Please Play Nice in the Political Threads" thread.
In it...
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Consider this a blanket warning: threads started with incendiary titles for the specific purpose of starting a flame war will earn the poster a temp ban, no warning, from now on. Paizo's messageboards are not the place for you to air your grievances against those you disagree with. Play nice.-Josh
Although, technically, the "title" isn't incendiary, the actual content of the OP is. I don't see that as being a worthy distiction. So, although I feel it inappropriate to make inquiries regarding the starter of the thread, why would such a thread be allowed to exist after we have just recently been remined about the stickied thread?
Always remember the easiest thing ... flag it and move on.
Oh, I remember it.
But, if such is not taken care of with flags, then what is the purpose of the stickied thread and referring posters to it?
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Always remember the easiest thing ... flag it and move on.Oh, I remember it.
But, if such is not taken care of with flags, then what is the purpose of the stickied thread and referring posters to it?
It is the weekend when, I believe, technically, the Paizo crew has off. Give it another day for flagging to work.
It is the weekend when, I believe, technically, the Paizo crew has off. Give it another day for flagging to work.Always remember the easiest thing ... flag it and move on.Oh, I remember it.
But, if such is not taken care of with flags, then what is the purpose of the stickied thread and referring posters to it?
The thread was posted at 11:34 AM Pacific time on Friday.
RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
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My two C-bills,
1) We don't 'have to put up with this stuff', just ignore it. I try to*
2) The boards aren't apolitical, because we aren't and neither are our hosts. Those people who have Sean and myself both of Facebook will definately see a wide gap of opinion on topics not related to gaming, just to use an example.** Were they my boards, topics would be disappearing with alarming regularity. The flag system just allows our tyrants to be more benevolent.
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I actually find it astonishing that facebook can contain both Sean's and Matthew's profiles without imploding and creating a black hole. There's hope for humankind, perhaps ?
It is when you see me on Facebook that you will know the apocalypse is upon us.
I actually find it astonishing that facebook can contain both Sean's and Matthew's profiles without imploding and creating a black hole. There's hope for humankind, perhaps ?It is when you see me on Facebook that you will know the apocalypse is upon us.
But you do have a Facebook page. Freehold DM
But you do have a Facebook page. Freehold DMI actually find it astonishing that facebook can contain both Sean's and Matthew's profiles without imploding and creating a black hole. There's hope for humankind, perhaps ?It is when you see me on Facebook that you will know the apocalypse is upon us.
You see, my wife and I were looking for that page for AGES the other day. I will have to check that link out later.
As I refuse to sign up to facebook I can't comment on the example but I think everybody has this in their real world lives. We can all sit around discussing things with our friends who don't agree with us and it's fine because we respect each other. The problem is that people seem to forget they're not talking to their friends when using a forum. So while I often tell my friends that not only are they wrong but a grotesquely ugly freak that is not the correct way to behave towards strangers. Subjects such as immigration are massively complicated issues with huge regional variation in what the dynamic on the ground actually is. Hopefully the other thread will maintain civility and everyone involved can learn how it impacts different communities around the world.
See! It's NOT just me! TC, what are your reasons for refusing to sign up for Facebook?
See! It's NOT just me! TC, what are your reasons for refusing to sign up for Facebook?I'll give you the same answer I give everyone else that asks.....I have real friends :)
Fair enough.
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Not to turn this into a pro/con facebook argument* but I don't find the 'I have real friends' comment that useful. Snark aside, I actually do use it for networking (helping friends connect with each other when they have mututal business interests) education (my goddaughter wanted to know more about CGI in movies and games, I put her in touch with a college classmate who works on CRPGs) and to keep tabs on my far flung family (sister lives in the boonies, another sister lives in MN, parents are in FL. That doesnt' count cousins, uncles, aunts etc spread across the world). Yeah I rant myself now and again on various issues, but it works for that too.
It's not just for farmville, castle age, etc etc that everyone keeps trying to get me to play. :P
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Not to turn this into a pro/con facebook argument* but I don't find the 'I have real friends' comment that useful. Snark aside, I actually do use it for networking (helping friends connect with each other when they have mututal business interests) education (my goddaughter wanted to know more about CGI in movies and games, I put her in touch with a college classmate who works on CRPGs) and to keep tabs on my far flung family (sister lives in the boonies, another sister lives in MN, parents are in FL. That doesnt' count cousins, uncles, aunts etc spread across the world). Yeah I rant myself now and again on various issues, but it works for that too.
It's not just for farmville, castle age, etc etc that everyone keeps trying to get me to play. :P
I totally agree.
I interact with some of my high school friends, college friends, and former co-workers now via Facebook than I did when I actually went to school or worked with them. FB is a powerful tool for staying in contact with people in a modern world where addresses change, emails change, phone numbers change.
Look, we agreed! Does that mean the end of the world or something? ;-)
Nope just a minor natural disaster somewhere. :)
Given comical aspect of the issue, I'd say that some nice Paizonian employee gave the thread once over and then continued on her/his way.
Seriously, taking offense at such an inane post is rather strange - what are the kind posters going to rage about next? Lady Gaga's lack of new undies? Inflammatory BBC footage of latest chicken leg serving modes?
In short, this is your life. Don't waste it on trivial stuff like that. [1]
Regards,
Ruemere[1] Of course, there are folks out there, who just need to discuss everything. Or who need to preach to the crowd about every little grievance they perceive. However, through their insistence on doing that, they also admit that there have nothing better to do.
With all due respect to street preachers, there are great hobbies out there... roleplaying, jogging, playing computer games or swimming. If you're into more traditional past times (or more practically minded fellow), you can always woo girls^H^H^H^H^H opposite sex^H^H^H^H^H^H^H potential partners or get together for a party and/or beer.
There is a comical aspect to the linked article but not to the OP.
The poster of the OP repeatedly (intentionally and in a trolling manner) resorts to calling just about everything racism in an inflammatory manner and continually trashes Fox News (in this case calling them racists) in order to belittle and insult anyone who may take a view different than his if it is aired on Fox.
I have read the thread and , in my opinion, there are two reasons not to close it.
1: There is a case for saying that the OP is right, not saying that I agree with him but there is a point worthy of discussion.
2: It's turned into a pretty neat discussion about migration.
Then a thread about migration in that aspect can be started and the one spawned form the inflammatory OP can be locked. And, IMO, there is no point worthy of discussion regarding the OP. It is absurd.
Between the insult trading and odd humorous post I can see that there is something resembling debate going on, but someone godwinned the thread on page one (possibly defaming an organization in the process). Consequently I've been flagging it and avoiding posting.
The Godwinning/defaming of an organization was not merely early on. It was the premise of the OP.
My two C-bills,
1) We don't 'have to put up with this stuff', just ignore it. I try to*
2) The boards aren't apolitical, because we aren't and neither are our hosts. Those people who have Sean and myself both of Facebook will definately see a wide gap of opinion on topics not related to gaming, just to use an example.** Were they my boards, topics would be disappearing with alarming regularity. The flag system just allows our tyrants to be more benevolent.
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1. Really, I didn't know that I didn't have to look at every thread /snarky response] The point is not only that such things make the boards less enjoyable for those continually being insulted but that this particular OP exceeds the poarameters defined in the sticky to the top of the subforum. I don't think it too much to ask to not have to deal with threads that exceed the parameters of the subforum in their degree of being inflammatory.
2. I know the boards are not apolitical and did not request that they be. I am merely asking that the inflammatory nature of such threads actually be limited in a way that matches the sticky with rules limiting the inflammatory nature of such threads. I do not think that is asking too much by any stretch.
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I actually find it astonishing that facebook can contain both Sean's and Matthew's profiles without imploding and creating a black hole. There's hope for humankind, perhaps ?It is when you see me on Facebook that you will know the apocalypse is upon us.
You better get one soon, Luddite. I've wanted to send you some personal messages for a while now, and nothing related to anything on these boards.
;-)
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Not to turn this into a pro/con facebook argument* but I don't find the 'I have real friends' comment that useful. Snark aside, I actually do use it for networking (helping friends connect with each other when they have mututal business interests) education (my goddaughter wanted to know more about CGI in movies and games, I put her in touch with a college classmate who works on CRPGs) and to keep tabs on my far flung family (sister lives in the boonies, another sister lives in MN, parents are in FL. That doesnt' count cousins, uncles, aunts etc spread across the world). Yeah I rant myself now and again on various issues, but it works for that too.
It's not just for farmville, castle age, etc etc that everyone keeps trying to get me to play. :PI totally agree.
I interact with some of my high school friends, college friends, and former co-workers now via Facebook than I did when I actually went to school or worked with them. FB is a powerful tool for staying in contact with people in a modern world where addresses change, emails change, phone numbers change.
Yep. I've gotten in touch with family and friends I had lost touch with long ago. Were it not for FB, I'd still be wondering what they're up to rather than knowing what they're up to.
FB can be annoying at times, but it is a wonderful (and free) way to find people you haven't seen or heard from in a long time.
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There is a comical aspect to the linked article but not to the OP.The poster of the OP repeatedly (intentionally and in a trolling manner) resorts to calling just about everything racism in an inflammatory manner and continually trashes Fox News (in this case calling them racists) in order to belittle and insult anyone who may take a view different than his if it is aired on Fox.
(post monster ate my post so here is a abbreviated version)
Freedom of speech: his opinion.
Censorship: your appeal.
This is Paizo board - flag the posts, use customer service mail.Oh, and be glad you've not participated in Usenet flamewar.
Regards,
RuemerePS. There is delicious irony in a funny trollish posts being protected by freedom of speech from self-righteous umbrage of would be-censors. Last time I've so much fun at this forum, was reading about Man in Black's indignation on mechanical benefits for sacred prostitutes.
There is no freedom of speech on a Paizo board, it is their decision.
Censorship is not exactly my appeal. I would like the opportunity to really say my feelings on the matter. :P
I know this is a Paizo board. This was not placed here as a community conversation piece, but because it is the place for web-site feedback to the company. I chose this method of notification instead of email. Because of this choice, it has become a community conversation piece, but I have not complained that others (such as yourself) have commented in my thread.
Offices are always swamped when coming in on Mondays. So, I haven't been bothered by a lack of response so far by the employees of Paizo.
By the way, there is no funny trollish post being protected by freedom of speech. It is currently protected because Paizo has either chosen not to exercise their power to remove it or because they have not gotten around to looking at it fully. But, what bothers me regarding the responses is that no one has bothered to address that the OP is in conflict with the rules lain out by the sticky.
My point regarding why do we have to put up with this is that it seems that Paizo's standards for behavior are being allowed to be exceeded in this case and I want to know why from the staff.
The Off Topic area is full of trash and good for a laugh.
If you don't like it, and are of the belief you want to give 'feedback' then stick to the 'feedback' related threads.
Chief Technical Officer
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There is no freedom of speech on a Paizo board, it is their decision... ...it seems that Paizo's standards for behavior are being allowed to be exceeded in this case and I want to know why from the staff.
It *is* our decision... and we don't have to explain it.
We have a system for giving us feedback. Opening this thread is, at best, an attempt to bypass that system, and not surprisingly, that sort of thing actually ends up making the problem worse by drawing more attention and further debate.
Locked.