Challenge: can you create a good homebrew setting from two bad ideas?


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Maybe it's late at night, and I don't know if these are bad ideas or not. I am reading the Action Philosophers illustration of Soren Kirkagaard's life and philosophy, and notice that he published "The Instant" in 1855, months before getting deathly ill and dying.

The illustration in Action Philosophers makes me think, what if instead of dying from the disease, he had gained super powers.

Does this count as one idea or two?


Maybe it's late at night, and I don't know if these are bad ideas or not. I am reading the Action Philosophers illustration of Soren Kirkagaard's life and philosophy, and notice that he published "The Instant" in 1855, months before getting deathly ill and dying.

The illustration in Action Philosophers makes me think, what if instead of dying from the disease, he had gained super powers.

Does this count as one idea or two?


Utgardloki wrote:

Maybe it's late at night, and I don't know if these are bad ideas or not. I am reading the Action Philosophers illustration of Soren Kirkagaard's life and philosophy, and notice that he published "The Instant" in 1855, months before getting deathly ill and dying.

The illustration in Action Philosophers makes me think, what if instead of dying from the disease, he had gained super powers.

Does this count as one idea or two?

Two...


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Democracy

Immortality

*shakes fist*


BenignFacist wrote:

Democracy

Immortality

*shakes fist*

What's so bad about Immortality?


SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
BenignFacist wrote:

Democracy

Immortality

*shakes fist*

What's so bad about Immortality?

lol nice :)

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If you're being DEADLY serious:

Spoiler:

...limited resources, such as space, food and energy

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...an ever increasing, never-diminishing number of consumers

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Uh oh.......

Note: We're talking REAL immortality - i.e anything less than total annihilation* doesn't cause you to permanently die.

Even if you get shot, slashed, stabbed and.. um.. dead'ed - you're still coming back.

Could be interesting. You shoot as many people as you want, use as much force as you need but.. it's only temporary.

Sooner or later, they're coming back to give you more of the same.

Rinse and repeat!

Starvation is still a problem tho..

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I see cannibalism losing its stigma reaaaaal fast!

...and lot's of folk getting boxed n' buried alive!

:D

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*incineration or say, being digested...

*shakes fist*


BenignFacist wrote:

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Democracy

Immortality

*shakes fist*

While not impervious to damage the way you describe in later posts, I did read a short story where people are immortal, and the only way to advance in your job is to kill your supervisor. The story involved a guy who was a CEO, and described all the various ways he had to kill his supervisors on the way to the top.]

Then he got killed by some ambitious young punk.

Shadow Lodge

Hello Kitty vs Alien?


Dragonborn3 wrote:
Hello Kitty vs Alien?

The Dukes of Hazzard vs anybody?


Muppets are real. And Evil.


Uninvited Ghost wrote:
Muppets are real. And Evil.

That was an episode of Angel.

If your campaign is simulating Angel, You already have that + vampires with souls. :)

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Indiana Jones has an Encounter of the Third Kind.

Robocop vs. Dracula.

Silver Crusade

Tagion wrote:

1. Inception

2. Don Quixote

"To dream the impossible dream..."

Edit: Any bad idea plus Broadway musical adaptation.


SmiloDan wrote:

Indiana Jones has an Encounter of the Third Kind.

Robocop vs. Dracula.

First of all I loved indiana jones

second of all I loved dracula.

Lastly your first idea was already done, its called the worst movie ever or indiana jones 4.

also.

robocop is lame sauce.

and dracula would win!

flame on!


BenignFacist wrote:
SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
BenignFacist wrote:

Democracy

Immortality

*shakes fist*

What's so bad about Immortality?

lol nice :)

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If you're being DEADLY serious:
** spoiler omitted **

*shakes fist*

It's true, immortality is a curse. After about 1,000 years the Immortals go mad, and it get worse from there...


BenignFacist wrote:
If you're being DEADLY serious:

*rimshot*

Midnightoker wrote:
Lastly your first idea was already done, its called the worst movie ever or indiana jones 4.

I have yet to figure out why people hate that movie. I found it the same as the others I watched.


Mikaze wrote:
beautiful madness

I...I may be able to love you, whoever you are. Though I may be able to fear you as well.

Probably both, in timed intervals.

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SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
BenignFacist wrote:
If you're being DEADLY serious:

*rimshot*

Midnightoker wrote:
Lastly your first idea was already done, its called the worst movie ever or indiana jones 4.
I have yet to figure out why people hate that movie. I found it the same as the others I watched.

Traditionally, Indiana Jones dealt with quasi-mythic or religious phenomena. Inter-dimensional alien beings are NOT mythic or spiritual. They're just a lame excuse of trying to be sci-fi without admiting you are trying to be sci-fi. It just doesn't fit the theme of the rest of the series and was very disruptive. It also cheapens a lot of the accomplishments that ancient humans made. It suggests people couldn't REALLY have done what they did, so aliens must have done it. It's a giant cop-out. And pretty racist, too, since most of the ancient stuff that the aliens supposedly did was actually done by non-Europeans. The Europeans just weren't doing anything back far enough to merit alien interaction.


Or, it made Europeans look just as stupid.
They could have made the aliens more Von Dainken.
It wasn't the best Indiana Jones movie.
It also wasn't Enterprise, thank goodness.
It didn't have all the aliens look and sound like JarJar Binks.
Conbine all the Alien movies with the worst Star Wars aliens and you have people lining up to go bug hunting.


Spoiler:
"Ancient aliens" and "psychic powers" screams religion just as much as real religion does, it's no more sci-fi then any of the other movies. The whole thing's ridiculous enough that the idea that I should take it as a serious comment on non-European culture doesn't cross my mind.

I see it as just a cheesy action-adventure movie.


SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

There can be no doubt that aliens are responsible for all of mankind's greatest achievements, except (of course) for the accomplishments of the Europeans. That was the point that Indiana Jones 4 was trying to convey...smurf!

If you don't smurfing like that, then smurf off!


Leafar the Lost wrote:
That was the point that Indiana Jones 4 was trying to convey...

I thought the point it was trying to convey was the same as every one of the movies: you should respect religion, no matter how whacked-out it sounds, because otherwise it will kill you.


SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:
That was the point that Indiana Jones 4 was trying to convey...
I thought the point it was trying to convey was the same as every one of the movies: you should respect religion, no matter how whacked-out it sounds, because otherwise it will kill you.

Except Buddhism. I have yet to hear of a fundamentalist Buddhist terrorist blowing up an airliner or making a suicide bomb attack.


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Where there are people...

Buddhism and Dive Bombing

*shakes fist.. unshakes fist..*


1. A young, very handsome, somehow mysterious, a little bit sinister and extremely capable heroe, whose hometown has been massacred by Orcs.

2. A painfull sweet girly Vampire romance stroy.


BenignFacist wrote:

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Where there are people...

Buddhism and Dive Bombing

*shakes fist.. unshakes fist..*

"You have my skin. You have my flesh. You have my bones. You have my marrow." ~Bodhidharma


First the spam-My point was chariots of the gods is straight fantasy. What the author did or did not believe is just an interesting footnote.

Now the meat-The world of hackers, then the internet ruptures into the astral plane. Ghost Whisperer did an episode. Digimon did several cartoon series.


Goth Guru wrote:

First the spam-My point was chariots of the gods is straight fantasy. What the author did or did not believe is just an interesting footnote.

Now the meat-The world of hackers, then the internet ruptures into the astral plane. Ghost Whisperer did an episode. Digimon did several cartoon series.

Yes, let's get to the "meat" of the issue at hand, for my words are about to run dry!

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!


SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
BenignFacist wrote:
If you're being DEADLY serious:

*rimshot*

Midnightoker wrote:
Lastly your first idea was already done, its called the worst movie ever or indiana jones 4.
I have yet to figure out why people hate that movie. I found it the same as the others I watched.

Honestly its because all the others were Indiana Jones hunting down religious history. Religious.

The whole pitch at the end that aliens caused it? come on thats not indiana jones style at all, its damn paranormal.

I want dungeon delving, archaic temple, religious ancient God madness.

Just my personal though

Liberty's Edge

Dabbler wrote:
SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:
That was the point that Indiana Jones 4 was trying to convey...
I thought the point it was trying to convey was the same as every one of the movies: you should respect religion, no matter how whacked-out it sounds, because otherwise it will kill you.
Except Buddhism. I have yet to hear of a fundamentalist Buddhist terrorist blowing up an airliner or making a suicide bomb attack.

Give it time. The younger Tibetans exiled in India aren't as patient (or non-violent) as their parent's and grandparent's generations.


houstonderek wrote:
Dabbler wrote:
SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
Leafar the Lost wrote:
That was the point that Indiana Jones 4 was trying to convey...
I thought the point it was trying to convey was the same as every one of the movies: you should respect religion, no matter how whacked-out it sounds, because otherwise it will kill you.
Except Buddhism. I have yet to hear of a fundamentalist Buddhist terrorist blowing up an airliner or making a suicide bomb attack.
Give it time. The younger Tibetans exiled in India aren't as patient (or non-violent) as their parent's and grandparent's generations.

But that's Tibetan nationalism, not Buddhist fundamentalism - just as the IRA were not Catholic terrorists, they were terrorists who happened to be Catholic and their cause was cultural and political (Irish nationalism) rather than religious (save in that religion was part of the culture).

Edit: For 'Terrorists' read 'Freedom Fighters' above if you prefer that term.


On the subject of terrorism, etc:

24.

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Inspector Clouseau.


I_Use_Ref_Discretion wrote:

On the subject of terrorism, etc:

24.

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Inspector Clouseau.

ICH BIN EIN BERLINER!


Leafar the Lost wrote:
SilvercatMoonpaw wrote:
Wait, what meaning of "bad" are we talking about here? I don't see how either the Lost Roman Legion or Pokémon are necessarily bad ideas for what they are. Do the two ideas each have to be bad alone, or do they only have to be bad together?
Interesting question...you are right that the Lost Roman Legion and Pokémon are by themselves not "bad", but they become bad when put together. So it's like ketchup and ice cream being put together or jelly and bacon...

Hey!! I do put jelly on my bacon. No joke, I really do. At least on biscuits.

The Exchange

Leafar the Lost wrote:

Jim Butcher stated that the Codex Alera series came about from a challenge of a friend. They had been discussing the concept of taking bad ideas and making them into good novels through presentation and writing. This individual challenged Butcher to write a good novel from a bad idea. Butcher upped the ante and asked for two bad ideas, and these were the results: the Lost Roman Legion and Pokemon. Taking these two ideas, Butcher crafted the "Furies of Calderon".

Therefore, I ask for the same challenge. Give me two bad ideas, and I will craft a homebrew setting from it. I will pick the "best", bad ideas from you guys...

1. Traditional Gnomes are Earth Element Based Creatures who look like small Humans less than a foot tall.

2. Naga are South East Asian Dragons whose upper half is Human. These are also elemental based Creatures.

Pure Elemental Evil
Rank 1 Gnome: 1'tall, Pass through element (as passwall), Elemental based creature, Future Sight

Rank 10 Gnome: NAGA. Tail, Poison Sting, Future Sight, Breath Weapon

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Light amplification by stimulating emissions of radiation

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Felis familiaris


You mean lasers and cats.

Silver Crusade

Anyone you kill, you have to serve as a slave to for a century in the afterlife.

All beings reincarnate as a member of the race that killed them if they die through violence.

Silver Crusade

The planet moves closer to Heaven or Hell depending on the population size of aasimar and tieflings, regardless of their actual individual alignment.

Gnomes are unknowing "fingers" of an extradimensional entity within the material plane.

Silver Crusade

All environments and their related ecologies are warring empires ruled over by nymph queens whose vitality is tied directly with their home ecology and vice-versa.

Dragons are merely the remnants of the lost dinosaur empire of eons past.

The Exchange

Cold Beer wrote:

Too easy. The campaign I currently run is an amalgamation of Fungus and Ragnarok. D=

(Everyone seems to be having a good time with it, so far...)

Fungnarok?

Only Doctor Scholl's powerful secret weapon can stop the chaos!

Silver Crusade

smurf?

That's hilarious... if you say smurf, you're a smurf...when did that start?


Teletubbies and Barney.


xorial wrote:
Teletubbies and Barney.

... so this is what sanity loss feels like <whimper>

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Dabbler wrote:
xorial wrote:
Teletubbies and Barney.
... so this is what sanity loss feels like <whimper>

Folk Music

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being inspired by an incompetent safecracker in a damaged airship

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Nooooo, THIS is what going crazy feels like.....


Buffy the Vampire Slayer & The Sound of Music.

Wait, I think that was a episode of Charmed.


xorial wrote:

Buffy the Vampire Slayer & The Sound of Music.

Wait, I think that was a episode of Charmed.

"Once More, With Feeling!" an episode of Buffy as a musical ... hilarious. Sadly not a bad idea.


How about Reality TV & Squirrels?


Mythbusters & Ghostbusters.


xorial wrote:
Mythbusters & Ghostbusters.

"Cross the beams!"

"First, let's do some tests and see how that works, then build some really BIG particle beam packs to make a huge explosion ..."

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