So is wall of force 2 dimensional? The spell doesn't specify a thickness and I seem to remember early editions specifically saying that it is 2D.
So if it's 2D, then would someone running into the edge of it simply be severed because it would be infinitely thin and therefore sharp or would they simply pass through it unharmed because it's so thin it simply passes between molecules?
If this spell could be used to harm people I think that they would have said so in the description, just like they did for Wall of Iron.
So you're of the opinion that if a creature were to walk into the wall of force from the edge that it would just pass through as if the wall were not there?
What if you pressed your hand against the edge of it? Or reached their arm around, thereby pressing their arm agains the nonexistant edge? If there's no thickeness to press against, what do you get? What would they feel?
What if you pressed your hand against the edge of it? Or reached their arm around, thereby pressing their arm agains the nonexistant edge? If there's no thickeness to press against, what do you get? What would they feel?
for simplicity and to put splitting molecule debates to rest, i would suggest considering it one inch thick, as hardness/hp rules use that as a measurement in cases.
Imagine the wall like a very intense but very localised 2D magnetic field. When you try to pass trought the wall from the non-existant side, you end up propelled to one side or another, since you cannot be perfectly "in the middle". This is how I would house-rule it at least.
I like to imagine the wall of force anchored by two big swirlie barber poles: looks like spinning candy canes! :D
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If a rules interpretation leads to the conclusion of "and then it dies with no saving throw no matter how many hit points or immunity it has" you're doing it wrong
NO creating water inside someone's lungs
NO teleporting with only another characters heart.
No shrinking yourself down to 1 inch tall, blinking and reappearing inside the other creatures medulla and then canceling the shrinking. (the Athena maneuver)
So no throwing creatures onto the one dimensional wall of force to split them or their atoms.
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severed ... infinitely thin and therefore sharp or would they simply pass through it unharmed because it's so thin it simply passes between molecules?
The spell doesn't provide combat uses for this type of stuff so it's best if the DM prohibits strange corner cases like this being used in a combat effective way.
You would walk into the wall and wouldn't be harmed by running into it.
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If a rules interpretation leads to the conclusion of "and then it dies with no saving throw no matter how many hit points or immunity it has" you're doing it wrong.
While I normally eschew the use of "you're doing it wrong" as an evaluation of someone's gaming style... I have to agree in this case.
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So the concensus is basically that a creature/object cannot touch the edge of the wall. The edge of the wall would simply repel the creature like a pair of magnets pushing away from each other and actual contact would never happen.
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Is it really so hard to believe that the spell just does what it says?
Is it really so hard to believe that the spell just does what it says?
The spell does not say what happens when you touch the non-existant edge. Hence the question for interpretations...
Don't you ever ask, "What if?"
Is it really so hard to believe that the spell just does what it says?The spell does not say what happens when you touch the non-existant edge. Hence the question for interpretations...
Don't you ever ask, "What if?"
Not when it comes to magic... Gets very messy very quick.. since it breaks the laws of nature and physics
Is it really so hard to believe that the spell just does what it says?The spell does not say what happens when you touch the non-existant edge. Hence the question for interpretations...
Don't you ever ask, "What if?"
The spell also does not say it is 2 dimensional, infinately thin or anything close to that. It says it makes a wall of force. Something that can be interacted with in the ways stated in the spell.
How thick is a wall of force? Thick enough to stop you from any direction. Nothing more. Nothing less.