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NobodysHome wrote:...waitaminute. Did the guy whose house you are robbing sell someone poison that was used on the PCs?
Because most players would want a piece of that guys hide if that is the case.
Oh, no argument there. But, "This legitimate alchemist sold a poison that is legally for sale in this city, then it was used on us. So we're going to kill him and rob his house in the middle of said city," sets the PCs up as "above the law" vigilantes who have to work in secrecy and avoid the authorities. A perfectly-acceptable trope for some parties...
...except in the very next scene they're supposed to be working with the authorities again.Kind of like if Batman went around killing anyone Commissioner Gordon sent him after, then robbing their house. Commissioner Gordon might overlook the murder, but the murder and looting combined would probably force him to say, "Look, Batman, don't be an a*****."
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It's just one email, it's not a big deal. In fact, it's usually the only email I get each day. And it is quite convenient. For instance, today's email let me know that my work pay has deposited, and that my federal tax refund should clear in a day or two.
One amazing productivity skill that I've learned that I won't put on any resume is the ability to scroll past things online that don't interest me without wasting time getting upset about it and the ability to delete emails that I don't care about (and sometimes even unsubscribe/block them) again without wasting time getting upset about them.
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Freehold DM wrote:NobodysHome wrote:...waitaminute. Did the guy whose house you are robbing sell someone poison that was used on the PCs?
Because most players would want a piece of that guys hide if that is the case.
Oh, no argument there. But, "This legitimate alchemist sold a poison that is legally for sale in this city, then it was used on us. So we're going to kill him and rob his house in the middle of said city," sets the PCs up as "above the law" vigilantes who have to work in secrecy and avoid the authorities. A perfectly-acceptable trope for some parties...
...except in the very next scene they're supposed to be working with the authorities again.Kind of like if Batman went around killing anyone Commissioner Gordon sent him after, then robbing their house. Commissioner Gordon might overlook the murder, but the murder and looting combined would probably force him to say, "Look, Batman, don't be an a*****."
poison use has a long, bad history in D&D and that has unfortunately carried over into pathfinder. While I dont think you are wrong in looking for above-board ways of handling this(especially with your son at the table), most people I have played with would point to the alignment issues with respect to poison use and go to town.
NobodysHome |
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NobodysHome wrote:poison use has a long, bad history in D&D and that has unfortunately carried over into pathfinder. While I dont think you are wrong in looking for above-board ways of handling this(especially with your son at the table), most people I have played with would point to the alignment issues with respect to poison use and go to town.Freehold DM wrote:NobodysHome wrote:...waitaminute. Did the guy whose house you are robbing sell someone poison that was used on the PCs?
Because most players would want a piece of that guys hide if that is the case.
Oh, no argument there. But, "This legitimate alchemist sold a poison that is legally for sale in this city, then it was used on us. So we're going to kill him and rob his house in the middle of said city," sets the PCs up as "above the law" vigilantes who have to work in secrecy and avoid the authorities. A perfectly-acceptable trope for some parties...
...except in the very next scene they're supposed to be working with the authorities again.Kind of like if Batman went around killing anyone Commissioner Gordon sent him after, then robbing their house. Commissioner Gordon might overlook the murder, but the murder and looting combined would probably force him to say, "Look, Batman, don't be an a*****."
Well, I'm really not that opposed to the killing; in the first two sections it really isn't bad.
But it is quite literally:
Commissioner Gordon: Batman! The Joker is in the Gotham Museum! Bring him in!
Batman: Right!
<Goes in, kills the Joker, kills all the museum guards, loots the entire museum, and comes back to Commissioner Gordon for his reward>
It's not killing the Joker that's the problem; it's killing everyone else in the building, and looting whatever building the Joker happens to be in.
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gran rey de los mono wrote:It's just one email, it's not a big deal. In fact, it's usually the only email I get each day. And it is quite convenient. For instance, today's email let me know that my work pay has deposited, and that my federal tax refund should clear in a day or two.One amazing productivity skill that I've learned that I won't put on any resume is the ability to scroll past things online that don't interest me without wasting time getting upset about it and the ability to delete emails that I don't care about (and sometimes even unsubscribe/block them) again without wasting time getting upset about them.
LOL,
Oh I'm great at deleting unneeded/unwanted emails!SOmetimes I even delete the ones I DIDN'T mean to! :P
No muss, No fuss,
My problem is I refuse to check email on my phone. It's a personal thing. I find it, annoying. (And my phone clumps all of my individual emails onto ONE screen, instead of selecting JUST the one that I wanted to check, so NOPE) >_<
(Kind of like 'WHY would I want to watch Netflix on my tiny screen, when I have a 50+" TV RIGHT HERE?!?) ;P
(And yes, I HAVE watched Netflix on my tiny screen,... just sayin') ;P
No my real problem comes from, I dont check my email often enough. :P
So the messages, if I get them, would no doubt be VERY helpful. (Like in the LAST month of accidentally spend $400 I didnt know had happened!)
I'll have to ask my credit union about that. Now that I think about it, that WOULD be VERY helpful in preventing (unaware) overdrafting.
Ragadolf |
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Moving into research paper season. I told the kids to pick a history topic, and I'm already hearing a range.
Agent Orange
Ozzy Osbourne
Edgar Allen PoeAt least I won't have to worry about repetition.
LOL<
MY first research Paper in High School was "Medieval Weaponry"Broken down into Melee Weapons, Ranged weapons, and Siege Weapons.
I got an "A". :)
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Scintillae wrote:Moving into research paper season. I told the kids to pick a history topic, and I'm already hearing a range.
Agent Orange
Ozzy Osbourne
Edgar Allen PoeAt least I won't have to worry about repetition.
LOL<
MY first research Paper in High School was "Medieval Weaponry"
Broken down into Melee Weapons, Ranged weapons, and Siege Weapons.I got an "A". :)
so I take it you were writing on modern technology at the time?
NobodysHome |
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Ugh. 2.2 mile walk up around 400' on a 72°F day, fish tacos for lunch...
...and I'm totally ready to go lie down on my bed in the sun and nap for a few hours.
Stupid work!
EDIT: And the worst part is that the company won't open reqs to replace anyone we lose, so I could pretty much stop coming to work and my manager would probably give me a month or two before saying, "OK, fun's over. Get back here."
My colleague was taking a month of unpaid leave every year for the decade before he retired just because he didn't feel like working year-round, and my manager thought it was great because she got to have him 11 months of the year and didn't have to fight to replace him.
Skipping an afternoon isn't even a blip on the radar around here.
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Ragadolf wrote:so I take it you were writing on modern technology at the time?Scintillae wrote:Moving into research paper season. I told the kids to pick a history topic, and I'm already hearing a range.
Agent Orange
Ozzy Osbourne
Edgar Allen PoeAt least I won't have to worry about repetition.
LOL<
MY first research Paper in High School was "Medieval Weaponry"
Broken down into Melee Weapons, Ranged weapons, and Siege Weapons.I got an "A". :)
Cutting edge of the time...
NobodysHome |
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LOLOL.
A supertanker of stupid just appeared on the horizon at work. My manager and I had a call to discuss how to head it off, and it looks like we're BOTH going to take an early afternoon to avoid having to deal with it until Monday.
And gods, I love her. "We're doing this project out of the goodness of our hearts. There are *no* repercussions if we walk away. So you go ahead and do your thing on Monday and see what you think, and if you tell me it's stupid we're pulling the plug right there."
Gee... self-determination and control makes your employees happy and loyal.
Who would've thunk?
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I'm going to say, I'm really liking Impus Major's physics teacher's style.
Every week he hands out a really nasty homework assignment. Plus a solution. He does not collect this assignment. Instead, every week he has an easy quiz on what was on the assignment. If you do the assignment, the quiz is a piece of cake.
So he's tracking what you're learning and letting you learn by your own method, whether it's by working through the problems (which Impus Major and I are doing together) or by just reading the solutions on weeks where you're pressed for time.
A really nice model. I approve.
I'll make sure and pass that along as that teacher is one of my friends I've known since High School
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Scintillae wrote:Moving into research paper season. I told the kids to pick a history topic, and I'm already hearing a range.
Agent Orange
Ozzy Osbourne
Edgar Allen PoeAt least I won't have to worry about repetition.
LOL<
MY first research Paper in High School was "Medieval Weaponry"
Broken down into Melee Weapons, Ranged weapons, and Siege Weapons.I got an "A". :)
Ye splendydde worke.
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I've just finished watching ' Highlander' with ALL (DE).
Get yer Toledo Salamanca broadswords out for the lads.
The fact that there are three more films after this one, plus a TV series, each worse than the thoroughly cardboard original, fills me with a deep & abiding happiness.
I'm... well... you see... it... it's... uh...
... okay, I'm going to level with you. I'm not entirely sure that the third film is worse than the first. It's not as enjoyable as the first, but I can't say that it's actually worse. I don't know for sure, though.
I mean, they're all better than the second one the one that doesn't exist. Well. Maybe. I don't know anymore, as I don't actually remember any of them after the fourth one (which was... yeah it was bad).
The series was actually decent, for what it was, at least as I recall.
My favorite is still far and away the first, though.
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I've just finished watching ' Highlander' with ALL (DE).
Get yer Toledo Salamanca broadswords out for the lads.
The fact that there are three more films after this one, plus a TV series, each worse than the thoroughly cardboard original, fills me with a deep & abiding happiness.
They are amazing.
NobodysHome |
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NH wrote:I'll make sure and pass that along as that teacher is one of my friends I've known since High SchoolI'm going to say, I'm really liking Impus Major's physics teacher's style.
Every week he hands out a really nasty homework assignment. Plus a solution. He does not collect this assignment. Instead, every week he has an easy quiz on what was on the assignment. If you do the assignment, the quiz is a piece of cake.
So he's tracking what you're learning and letting you learn by your own method, whether it's by working through the problems (which Impus Major and I are doing together) or by just reading the solutions on weeks where you're pressed for time.
A really nice model. I approve.
It amuses me that you say that with such confidence. Yes, I've mentioned the college in passing, but I count 25 faculty members in the physics department. I know when I taught at CCSF we had 28 members, and we frequently "borrowed" each other's styles. (I always said that teaching is nothing more than lying and stealing, which horrified my manager, but I pointed out, "Lie to make sure your students have confidence in you, and steal to make sure you're using the best teaching methods out there."
She still didn't approve.)EDIT: But *DO* pass on the compliment either way -- it's being extremely effective for us, so I appreciate it, whether or not he happens to be Impus Major's teacher at the moment.
EDIT 2: And I should note that the quote is from when I was teaching real-time software engineers, an industry where, "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach," is an intrinsic mantra. I'll never forget spending two days helping two guys solve every issue they threw at me, and on the third morning overhearing one guy telling the other, "Well, you really shouldn't be taking everything he says so seriously. He's just a teacher. If he really knew what he was doing, he'd be an engineer."
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Tin Foil Yamakah wrote:NH wrote:I'll make sure and pass that along as that teacher is one of my friends I've known since High SchoolI'm going to say, I'm really liking Impus Major's physics teacher's style.
Every week he hands out a really nasty homework assignment. Plus a solution. He does not collect this assignment. Instead, every week he has an easy quiz on what was on the assignment. If you do the assignment, the quiz is a piece of cake.
So he's tracking what you're learning and letting you learn by your own method, whether it's by working through the problems (which Impus Major and I are doing together) or by just reading the solutions on weeks where you're pressed for time.
A really nice model. I approve.
It amuses me that you say that with such confidence. Yes, I've mentioned the college in passing, but I count 25 faculty members in the physics department. I know when I taught at CCSF we had 28 members, and we frequently "borrowed" each other's styles. (I always said that teaching is nothing more than lying and stealing, which horrified my manager, but I pointed out, "Lie to make sure your students have confidence in you, and steal to make sure you're using the best teaching methods out there."
She still didn't approve.)EDIT: But *DO* pass on the compliment either way -- it's being extremely effective for us, so I appreciate it, whether or not he happens to be Impus Major's teacher at the moment.
EDIT 2: And I should note that the quote is from when I was teaching real-time software engineers, an industry where, "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach," is an intrinsic mantra. I'll never forget spending two days helping two guys solve every issue they threw at me, and on the third morning overhearing one guy telling the other, "Well, you really shouldn't be taking everything he says so seriously. He's just a teacher. If he really knew what he was doing, he'd be an engineer."
This is the most stupid thing that I've ever heard.
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Scintillae wrote:"Oh my god half this book is just music."
"...it's a musical."Ah, children.
Tiny T-Rex: What's a musical?
Me: It's a movie or stage show with singing and choreographed dance routines
Tiny T-Rex: So, it's worse then a movie.
Tiny T-Rex and Not-So-Mini-Wizard would get along famously I fear. ;)
Ragadolf |
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Freehold DM wrote:Cutting edge of the time...Ragadolf wrote:so I take it you were writing on modern technology at the time?Scintillae wrote:Moving into research paper season. I told the kids to pick a history topic, and I'm already hearing a range.
Agent Orange
Ozzy Osbourne
Edgar Allen PoeAt least I won't have to worry about repetition.
LOL<
MY first research Paper in High School was "Medieval Weaponry"
Broken down into Melee Weapons, Ranged weapons, and Siege Weapons.I got an "A". :)
Indeed sirrah! Nothing but the most-up-to-date-technological marvels for this wizard!
My display on siege weapons really made an IMPACT.
;P
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FYI-
Wizard is escaping the state of confusion for Mardi Gras.
(Thats right, everyone else is trying to get INTO Lousy-Anna, and I'm trying to get OUT!)
;P
I am going to Universal Studios, where I shall hang out and hob-knob with my fellow wizards in Diagon alley, and the Three Broomsticks!
Yep, THIS wizard is gonna play 'Harry Potter Wizards Unite', IN Harry Potter World!
:)
GOOD NIGHT! AGED WIZZIE HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!!!! SEE YOU NEXT WEEK!
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Get yer Toledo Salamanca broadswords out for the lads.
So I remember reading a Raymond E. Feist novel as a kid, and one of the throwaway characters had a "salamanca" sword. I had no idea what it was, and I searched for years trying to figure out what this weapon I'd never heard of (even though I read tons of fantasy fiction and played D&D) was, and... I must have forgotten about it before the internet came around.
But you mentioning it just now reminded that I never figured out what it was, so I just googled "toledo salamanca" and found out. Thanks!
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And now I'm reading that there never was a real sword called a salamanca? That would explain my difficulty learning about it.
Looking at the timeline for when the Highlander movie that mentions it came out vs. which Feist book I think it was mentioned in... and it seems plausible that Feist was a fan of Christopher Lambert.
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EDIT 2: And I should note that the quote is from when I was teaching real-time software engineers, an industry where, "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach," is an intrinsic mantra. I'll never forget spending two days helping two guys solve every issue they threw at me, and on the third morning overhearing one guy telling the other, "Well, you really shouldn't be taking everything he says so seriously. He's just a teacher. If he really knew what he was doing, he'd be an engineer."
Absolutely f&+*ing disgusting mindset there. Inexcusable.
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Yesterday was Aiymi's birthday. Zelda and I took her to see The Naked Magicians last night.
That was a lot of fun.
As far as a magic show is concerned, they didn't do anything I haven't seen before, but they performed it well. The audience participation was very well done, the comedy was fun, and overall it was just a very entertaining show.
Speaking of audience participation...one of the people brought on stage was a 91 year old woman who was hysterical.
"Put the card back in the deck."
She does so.
"Take the cards, and fan them out, like this."
She drops about 10-15 cards on the floor.
"That's ok, that's ok. Let's just pick these up, put them back in the deck..."
She begins shuffling.
"Ah. Ok. Yeah. You just shuffle those on up some more...ok..."
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NobodysHome wrote:EDIT 2: And I should note that the quote is from when I was teaching real-time software engineers, an industry where, "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach," is an intrinsic mantra. I'll never forget spending two days helping two guys solve every issue they threw at me, and on the third morning overhearing one guy telling the other, "Well, you really shouldn't be taking everything he says so seriously. He's just a teacher. If he really knew what he was doing, he'd be an engineer."Absolutely f&!#ing disgusting mindset there. Inexcusable.
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Freehold DM wrote:NobodysHome wrote:poison use has a long, bad history in D&D and that has unfortunately carried over into pathfinder. While I dont think you are wrong in looking for above-board ways of handling this(especially with your son at the table), most people I have played with would point to the alignment issues with respect to poison use and go to town.Freehold DM wrote:NobodysHome wrote:...waitaminute. Did the guy whose house you are robbing sell someone poison that was used on the PCs?
Because most players would want a piece of that guys hide if that is the case.
Oh, no argument there. But, "This legitimate alchemist sold a poison that is legally for sale in this city, then it was used on us. So we're going to kill him and rob his house in the middle of said city," sets the PCs up as "above the law" vigilantes who have to work in secrecy and avoid the authorities. A perfectly-acceptable trope for some parties...
...except in the very next scene they're supposed to be working with the authorities again.Kind of like if Batman went around killing anyone Commissioner Gordon sent him after, then robbing their house. Commissioner Gordon might overlook the murder, but the murder and looting combined would probably force him to say, "Look, Batman, don't be an a*****."
Well, I'm really not that opposed to the killing; in the first two sections it really isn't bad.
But it is quite literally:
Commissioner Gordon: Batman! The Joker is in the Gotham Museum! Bring him in!
Batman: Right!
<Goes in, kills the Joker, kills all the museum guards, loots the entire museum, and comes back to Commissioner Gordon for his reward>It's not killing the Joker that's the problem; it's killing everyone else in the building, and looting whatever building the Joker happens to be in.
wait..is this the poison makers home or just some random building?
NobodysHome |
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wait..is this the poison makers home or just some random building?
There are two separate sections. The first is the poisonmaker's home where the PCs are asked to check on his welfare, it looks like he's been kidnapped, and they're supposed to go ahead and help themselves to all his stuff.
So, maybe there's a lot of bias against poisonmakers in D&D, but, "This guy made a sleeping potion! Let's go to his house and take all his things," seems a bit extreme, even for that crowd.
The second is an honest-to-goodness public library where things have gone haywire and horrible creatures are wandering the halls, and the librarians offer to pay the PCs to go in and fix things, and the PCs are expected to loot all of the library's property and kill everything therein, including the library's own guards.
EDIT: And that's pretty much the lead-in for this book: The PCs find a note from the BBEG that says, "Hey, alchemist! I need four sleeping potions. Here's a description of each person I'm going to use it on!"
And the alchemist writes back, "Here you go! That'll be xxx gold pieces! And let's do lunch some time!"
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And now I'm reading that there never was a real sword called a salamanca? That would explain my difficulty learning about it.
Looking at the timeline for when the Highlander movie that mentions it came out vs. which Feist book I think it was mentioned in... and it seems plausible that Feist was a fan of Christopher Lambert.
Who isn't? Best designer stubble in the business.
They were just throwing words together at random when describing most things (especially swords) in that film, though anything else would have spoiled the flow of cheese.