
DM Aron Marczylo |

DM Aron Marczylo wrote:Aventi D´Gaudon wrote:sounds interesting, but where's the friction? Does he escape from Lamm at a later date?Monk ready. Here is background story
** spoiler omitted **...ahah, was kinda tired of writing alot but continueing or maybe short for this now->
The old man disappeared at some point (no one doesn´t know the reason) and he was left with old mans book, which he used to self-study martial art. (It was habbit from the old man to describe everything he knew plus easy way to teach small child with pictures how is everything done)
He is later captured by some thugs (Lamms men) and made do slave work. During his captivity he learns that it was Lamm and his men doing: They were the ones (hired swords) who attacked his family house with help from other nobles (jealousy plus chance to get part of his family gold & Lamm received huge amount from this).
He is able to escape later after year or two (thanks to his training plus little luck when guards were drunk).
However, the biggest thing which drive him mad is that it was Lamm himself, who personally killed [we can assume here "Croup de Grace"] his father and burning down his family house.
The player's handbook for the Crimson throne suggests Lamm as being a much smaller player on petty crime rarther than being involved with nobles in any way.

Aventi D´Gaudon |

Years passed and small boy had grown to teenager. The old master had again disappeared to one of his trips and no idea when he would come back. Aventi decided to test new movement he had learned.
On his run to the river, when he passed the alley, his mind blanked suddenly. Next image he had, was when he woke up shackled in a small room with 3 other people.
The horrors had just begun. For almost 6 years, he was being hit, tortured, slashed, whipped. Working from the morning to the late evening, sometimes even at night till the next sunrise... Only thing he heard, was this was all done for the greatness of Lamm.
He´s original roommates had either died or replaced, their destiny unknown, when his change appeared. Guard drunk, coming inside to room "bully" again the prisoners, Aventi choked him to death with his shackles. Opening the shackles and moving silently out of the place, he begun to run.
Arriving to home, which he hadn´t seen for 6 years, he noticed it was abandoned... only books were left with gold. It was miracle that no one had happened to wander inside and take those shining pieces of gold and papers from his master.
Now wandering the streets trying to find a clue of his master and having revenge in his mind against Lamm, the young monk had truly difficult task in his hand.

Philetus |
Philetus wrote:Cayden Cailean is Chaotic Good and Paladins are Lawful Good.This may be way off base, but what's the game if you can't have a little fun with it.
** spoiler omitted **...
I'm well-aware. Halflings also tend toward chaos racially. That's what I think would be interesting about this little guy. He wants to be a paladin in a place (Korvosa) and for a god (Cayden) that don't necessarily place any value on law. Where as other paladins are usually played with a boilerplate of "I AM LAWFUL," Alf must make conscious decisions along the way to go against his nature to act in a true and lawful manner.
This also comes down to a way that I read the rules and the descriptions of Cayden that other people may not agree with. The paladin's code of conduct has been toned down dramatically from the AD&D days, in regards to the lawful aspect. Now, a paladin is required to respect legitimate authority (in Korvosa, this, as written, means that the paladin should not interfere with the workings of the city government, even if they are not always 100% above board, as long as they are not supporting evil), act with honor, help those in need and punish those who harm the innocent. There isn't anything in there that, in my mind, goes counter to how Cayden is written. The Drunken God does what he chooses, but I haven't found any descriptions of him in which he actively moves against "lawful" as a concept, if that makes sense. That's why I think a paladin of Cayden could work.
If you agree that it's plausible, I think this could be a really fun character from a role-playing perspective (even though he is seriously gimped until about level five, when he gets his mount and deadly aim) and I'd love to join the game. If not, it's your game, and have great fun with it.

DM Aron Marczylo |

DM Aron Marczylo wrote:Philetus wrote:Cayden Cailean is Chaotic Good and Paladins are Lawful Good.This may be way off base, but what's the game if you can't have a little fun with it.
** spoiler omitted **...
I'm well-aware. Halflings also tend toward chaos racially. That's what I think would be interesting about this little guy. He wants to be a paladin in a place (Korvosa) and for a god (Cayden) that don't necessarily place any value on law. Where as other paladins are usually played with a boilerplate of "I AM LAWFUL," Alf must make conscious decisions along the way to go against his nature to act in a true and lawful manner.
This also comes down to a way that I read the rules and the descriptions of Cayden that other people may not agree with. The paladin's code of conduct has been toned down dramatically from the AD&D days, in regards to the lawful aspect. Now, a paladin is required to respect legitimate authority (in Korvosa, this, as written, means that the paladin should not interfere with the workings of the city government, even if they are not always 100% above board, as long as they are not supporting evil), act with honor, help those in need and punish those who harm the innocent. There isn't anything in there that, in my mind, goes counter to how Cayden is written. The Drunken God does what he chooses, but I haven't found any descriptions of him in which he actively moves against "lawful" as a concept, if that makes sense. That's why I think a paladin of Cayden could work.
If you agree that it's plausible, I think this could be a really fun character from a role-playing perspective (even though he is seriously gimped until about level five, when he gets his mount and deadly aim) and I'd love to join the game. If not, it's your game, and have great fun with it.
I think I see where you're getting at, but I have to dissagree about there being no descriptions of him being unlawful: Cayden Cailean He's Chaotic in nature and Chaos doesn't nessacerilly mean you're going to go about burning buildings or giving the finger to the members of the watch or something.
Paladins are still restricted with Lawful Good alignment, only in 4th edition (As far as I am aware) you can get a Paladin of a different alignment which is True Neutral. I believe Paladins, like Clerics, can only have a deity with an alignment one step away from their deity and Cayden Cailean is 2 steps.

Philetus |
I think I see where you're getting at, but I have to dissagree about there being no descriptions of him being unlawful: Cayden Cailean He's Chaotic in nature and Chaos doesn't nessacerilly mean you're going to go about burning buildings or giving the finger to the members of the watch or something.
Paladins are still restricted with Lawful Good alignment, only in 4th edition (As far as I am aware) you can get a Paladin of a different alignment which is True Neutral. I believe Paladins, like Clerics, can only have a deity with an alignment one step away from their deity and Cayden Cailean is 2 steps.
Completely viable and valid interpretation; there is actually another thread on here that quickly degenerated into a flame war about that very subject (paladins of non-lawful good gods). My point on Cayden is that I don't see him having any * disdain* for lawful as a concept; ie, he doesn't go out of his way to tear down lawful behavior, so much as he just does his own thing and allows others to do theirs.
This *would be* outside of the standard interpretations of the rules, but if the character is played as lawful good, and does his best to uphold his god (by doing what is right, and doing what he wants to do, which in this character's case would be striving to act like a paladin), is that enough for a disciple of Cayden?

DM Aron Marczylo |

DM Aron Marczylo wrote:I think I see where you're getting at, but I have to dissagree about there being no descriptions of him being unlawful: Cayden Cailean He's Chaotic in nature and Chaos doesn't nessacerilly mean you're going to go about burning buildings or giving the finger to the members of the watch or something.
Paladins are still restricted with Lawful Good alignment, only in 4th edition (As far as I am aware) you can get a Paladin of a different alignment which is True Neutral. I believe Paladins, like Clerics, can only have a deity with an alignment one step away from their deity and Cayden Cailean is 2 steps.Completely viable and valid interpretation; there is actually another thread on here that quickly degenerated into a flame war about that very subject (paladins of non-lawful good gods). My point on Cayden is that I don't see him having any * disdain* for lawful as a concept; ie, he doesn't go out of his way to tear down lawful behavior, so much as he just does his own thing and allows others to do theirs.
This *would be* outside of the standard interpretations of the rules, but if the character is played as lawful good, and does his best to uphold his god (by doing what is right, and doing what he wants to do, which in this character's case would be striving to act like a paladin), is that enough for a disciple of Cayden?
The God may not have any disdain for the law, but he certainly doesn't woreship the law. This is a deity who in his mortal life would spend a lot of time drinking and whilst drunk agreed to the test of Starstone, but I'm not bashing him, I think he's a pretty cool deity.
It's definantly a interesting concept and if I was softer I'd allow it, however like a Cleric, Paladins gain their spells and abilities from their deity. Plus I'm sure Iomedae wouldn't appreciate Cayden bestowing powers onto a paladin. Inquisitor sounds a little bit more like the way you're going though.

Philetus |
The God may not have any disdain for the law, but he certainly doesn't woreship the law. This is a deity who in his mortal life would spend a lot of time drinking and whilst drunk agreed to the test of Starstone, but I'm not bashing him, I think he's a pretty cool deity.
It's definantly a interesting concept and if I was softer I'd allow it, however like a Cleric, Paladins gain their spells and abilities from their deity. Plus I'm sure Iomedae wouldn't appreciate Cayden bestowing powers onto a paladin. Inquisitor sounds a little bit more like the way you're going though.
Not a problem at all. This little guy will go back into the cupboard, and I'll pull him out at some point in the future. I may submit another idea before that night's done, but for now, I'm going drinking. If my next post is unintelligible, you'll know why.

Aventi D´Gaudon |

Well, I am going to finish the write up to get an ending & beginning for the CoCT. Need to emphasis little bit more and give an idea what happened (little bit more details) and what type of character Aventi is along his "monk" style .
EDIT: I am finished! Everything now can be found from my character sheet. Hopefully it´s proper and okey now. Posting the ending now here in spoilers (complete one)
Years passed and small boy had grown to teenager. The old master had again disappeared to one of his trips and no idea when he would come back. Aventi decided to test new movement he had learned.
Under his mentor, beloved old man, who also had replaced his parents as a grandpa. Aventi had no idea who the old man was or where he came from, but he was always friendly to him and shared what he had. The style of moving and fighting was interesting. The old man teached the young boy his way of speaking, fighting and also to read as write his language. Aventi enjoyed these moments and especially when the old man showed something new.
According to papers, what he understood, the movements were like those of snakes: emphasing the speed, flexibility, striking vital points and confusing your enemies.
On his run to the river, when he passed the alley, his mind blanked suddenly. Next image he had, was when he woke up shackled in a small room with 3 other people.
The horrors had just begun. For almost 6 years, he was being hit, tortured, slashed, whipped. Working from the morning to the late evening, sometimes even at night till the next day sunrise... Only thing he heard and was repeated to him, was this was all done for the greatness of Lamm. Thanks to his they had shelter, food and to repay this kindness, they had to work. Growing in anger, planning for revenge, he waited patiently. Time passed and life of slave continued.
He´s original roommates had either died or were replaced, their destiny unknown, when his chance appeared finally. One night the guard was drunk, coming inside to room "bully" again the prisoners and then Aventi had chance. Like a snake he moved silently next to guard, hitting his vital spot and choked him to death with his shackles. Opening the shackles with keys and moving silently out of the place, helping others along the way, he was able to escape out of his prison
Arriving to home, which he hadn´t seen for 6 years, he noticed it was abandoned... only books were left with some amount of gold (the starting gold) and his master beloved staff. It was miracle that no one had happened to wander inside and take those shining pieces of gold and papers left by his master.
Now wandering the streets trying to find a clue of his master and having revenge in his mind against Lamm, the young monk had truly difficult task in his hand. Only clue he had about his master was he was from a place far away, called Nagajor... Finding his master, having his revenge against Lamm, Amastia´sstory had begun .
Tian Xia [Amastia]= (young) Cobra

DM Aron Marczylo |

Closing the recuritment now and I hope you there are no hard feelings. Here is the list of accepted characters:
Curnach Daveck: Human Druid
Tapestry: Tiefling Cleric
Krenn Weststone: Dwarven Ranger
Althon Skyven: Human Cavalier
Aventi D´Gaudon: Human Monk
Backups:
Jerome Hearthwarmer Halfling Inquisitor
Dlered Calvrisva Human Witch
I'll be posting up the IRC thread shortly, but first here is the OOC thread