seekerofshadowlight |
I do not know this Hide shirt off hand, but It would not be the same thing as hide armor. Chain mail and a chain shirt are not the same thing, they are kinda alike but not the same item, the straps and the way it fits, moves and is worn are different.
I would say you just ruin a set of hide and get nothing usable out of it, prob be about like leather with ACP close to platemail and near the double weight of leather. Just a total ruined mess, nothing anyone would wear if they had an option.
seekerofshadowlight |
I don't know the armor, but could be "Hide" is not really the correct name. Ya see the Hide armor in the book is not very well refined, it's really just layers of hide, not crafted to fit or anything , hince the high ACP.
If the shirt is, made to fit and well crafted and someone spends real time on it, then you beat your ass it's higher. They have fit and cut and adjusted it into a real armor, not just layers ment to be a cheap stop/gap
0gre |
Better question then:
Why does an entire suit of Hide Armour cost 16% of the price of a Hide Shirt? Does that not seem out of whack?
HH
Because items are priced more based on game balance than on actual costs it would be to manufacture them. As you point out Hide Shirts are more desirable and useful for a lot of reasons, thus they are more expensive.
DM_Blake |
Better question then:
Why does an entire suit of Hide Armour cost 16% of the price of a Hide Shirt? Does that not seem out of whack?
HH
Hide armor:
So you go kill some deer. You chop off the skin and urinate all over them to "cure" the hides. Rub some salt on it and drape it over your shoulders. You might even stitch a couple hides together. Ultimately, it's just the skin of an animal worn roughly like a robe. Or a poncho. Heck, you often have their heads and feet dangling off of your shoulders, or worn like a hat.
Hide shirt:
You go kill a giant lizard, skin its scaly hide, sew it into a fitted shirt, reinforce the thing with the ribs and other bones from that same lizard, all sewn together and properly cured, tanned, and boiled. It fits like armor, rather than like you simply draped smelly furs all over yourself.
Not to mention, giant lizards are more dangerous and more rare than deer, so they're harder to find and harder to kill, and they're harder to skin and it's harder to sew their thick scaly hides. All of which makes it more expensive, especially given that higher quality of craftsmanship.
Hide Shirt
This light armor is typically made from the hide, bones, and thick scales of giant lizards.
Brandon Gillespie Co-owner - Battlegrounds to Board Games |
I look at it like this. Hide armor utilizes heavy layers of thick furs/hides to provide its protection. A hide shirt, however, utilizes stronger materials (bone ribbing and lizard scales) that are strategically placed in a way so they protect vital areas without hindering the mobility of the wearer. It is not simply a suit of hide armor with the bottom cut off, it is a superior piece of equipment, that is why it costs six times as much.
Kitsune Knight |
*casts thread necromancy*
1) Why does a 10 ft. increase in land speed justify a 6x increase in cost?
2) If it is incredibly made then why are all of its other stats the exact same as general hide armor, aside from the above bonus?
3) Furthermore, if it is true that a hide shirt is better than hide armor, then why is the other example, chain shirt to chainmail, work in the opposite manner, with chain shirt costing less than chainmail?
I honestly don't understand why their is such a difference in princing when the armor effectively act the same...
Bobson |
The difference between light and medium armor is a huge one for many characters. Magi, bards, rogues, and acrobatic fighters, just to name a few. Having light armor with the stats of a piece of medium armor can be a big deal, fully justifying a price difference.
That being said, wealth-by-level makes it all moot by level 3, so it's not really a big deal.