Courrain |
In both the 3.5 and Pathfinder versions of the Half-Dragon template, the prerequisite for this template requires that the base creature must be a living, corporeal being. This automatically eliminates any creature with the Construct and Undead types. But what if the Construct has the Living Construct subtype? A subtype which gives Constructs some qualities of living creatures.
The Warforged being Constructs with the Living Construct subtype couldn't become Half-Dragons under the 3.5 version of the template. But since the Pathfinder version of the template now has it as an acquired template as well as an inherited one, it should be possible to apply it to a living construct.
Thoughts?
Urizen |
You should be able to work the other way around from a Warforged and then start doing grafts with living tissues or limbs....I can't remember the Eberron book(s), but there's some PrCs and Feats out there that focuses on Warforged wanting to become more 'human'. I think there's even a mix of them to add undead grafts, too. But someone with more intimate knowledge than I of Eberron should be able to specifically mention where. Otherwise, I'll have to dig out my books and look further.
BobChuck |
technically, warforged cannot be half-dragons. The "living construct" subtype does not grant the ability to reproduce, which is a rather fundamental part of how "half dragons" are created.
That said, nothing prevents someone from building a warforged partially out of dragon parts, any more than one could build a golem or weapons/armors out of dragon parts.
Set |
Two options (other than above) I could see;
1) A dragon who isn't terribly interested in breeding with non-dragons has developed a ritual means of infusing a living creature with draconic essence, half-dragon-ifying it.
2) The maker of warforged chose to make them in that form (with claws, wings, fangs, greater strength, etc.) and with alchemical bladders and stuff giving them breath weapos. It has the template because it was built to emulate draconic properties, but has no 'dragon's blood.'
Nether Saxon |
I toyed with the idea once.
Suppose you wanted a Warforged Barbarian/Sorcerer and enter the dragon Disciple Prestige Class.
Depending on your earlier feat choices, the end result would look like a mechanical half-dragon of the appropriate colour sculpted from adamantine, mithral, or whatnot (steel, wood, silver, cold iron, ...).
Granted, it's a bit of a stretch till you're there, but it would be well within the rules.
Oh, and the bit about Warforged becoming more "human" throuh their Prestige Class: you'll want to have a look at the "Reforged" Prestige Class from Races of Eberron.
Have fun. ;-)
Hunterofthedusk |
Dahak, that despicable worm, apparently created draconic sex robots that are a bit too realistic. They lay eggs.
I don't even know what to say to this, but I'm pretty sure he just won the thread for most creative way to have a half-dragon warforged
EDIT: on a side note, I had a similar problem trying to wrap my mind around a vampire living construct
Gilfalas |
technically, warforged cannot be half-dragons. The "living construct" subtype does not grant the ability to reproduce, which is a rather fundamental part of how "half dragons" are created.
But half dragons can also result from magical experimentation, not just breeding alone.
Half-dragons are only rarely the result of dragons mating with other creatures—most are the result of strange magical experiments.
That said, Warforged would be possible as Half Dragons. Just as they built Warforged Scouts (Halfling like warforged) and Warforged Chargers (Tauric warforged), a Warforged Half Dragon would be possible.
And scary.
KaeYoss |
Apsu the Waybringer wrote:Dahak, that despicable worm, apparently created draconic sex robots that are a bit too realistic. They lay eggs.I don't even know what to say to this, but I'm pretty sure he just won the thread for most creative way to have a half-dragon warforged
EDIT: on a side note, I had a similar problem trying to wrap my mind around a vampire living construct
Well, Apsu is one of those really old, primal deities. The kind that transforms into a swan to hit on women.
Hunterofthedusk |
No, I mean having an Ironborn or Warforged get bitten by a vampire, drained of all of their constitution, and then becoming a vampire. Just like a human becoming a vampire, only it's much weirder... Although, for my conundrum it was an Ironborn, who are Humanoids with the (Ironborn) subtype, so there's no question about whether or not it can be done by the rules.
Captain Sir Hexen Ineptus |
technically, warforged cannot be half-dragons. The "living construct" subtype does not grant the ability to reproduce, which is a rather fundamental part of how "half dragons" are created.
That said, nothing prevents someone from building a warforged partially out of dragon parts, any more than one could build a golem or weapons/armors out of dragon parts.
Oh how I miss the old Dragon Disciple. T_T
Disciple of Sakura |
BobChuck wrote:Oh how I miss the old Dragon Disciple. T_Ttechnically, warforged cannot be half-dragons. The "living construct" subtype does not grant the ability to reproduce, which is a rather fundamental part of how "half dragons" are created.
That said, nothing prevents someone from building a warforged partially out of dragon parts, any more than one could build a golem or weapons/armors out of dragon parts.
I always wanted to play a Warforged who would go from barbarian/sorcerer or duskblade into 3.5 Dragon Disciple. It really was one of my favorite general ideas for an Eberron PC.
LazarX |
In both the 3.5 and Pathfinder versions of the Half-Dragon template, the prerequisite for this template requires that the base creature must be a living, corporeal being. This automatically eliminates any creature with the Construct and Undead types. But what if the Construct has the Living Construct subtype? A subtype which gives Constructs some qualities of living creatures.
The Warforged being Constructs with the Living Construct subtype couldn't become Half-Dragons under the 3.5 version of the template. But since the Pathfinder version of the template now has it as an acquired template as well as an inherited one, it should be possible to apply it to a living construct.
Thoughts?
The Warforged is a Construct, irregardless of whether it's a living construct, it's still a construct. So the template can not be applied unless you have a compliant DM who will allow this level of cheesiness in his campaign.
wraithstrike |
Courrain wrote:The Warforged is a Construct, irregardless of whether it's a living construct, it's still a construct. So the template can not be applied unless you have a compliant DM who will allow this level of cheesiness in his campaign.In both the 3.5 and Pathfinder versions of the Half-Dragon template, the prerequisite for this template requires that the base creature must be a living, corporeal being. This automatically eliminates any creature with the Construct and Undead types. But what if the Construct has the Living Construct subtype? A subtype which gives Constructs some qualities of living creatures.
The Warforged being Constructs with the Living Construct subtype couldn't become Half-Dragons under the 3.5 version of the template. But since the Pathfinder version of the template now has it as an acquired template as well as an inherited one, it should be possible to apply it to a living construct.
Thoughts?
The half dragon template only specifies corporeal and alive. It does not say anything about restricting constructs. It just so happens that normally constructs are not alive. However once one is given life it qualifies.