I wonder to know :
- with rapid reaload(light crossbow), to shot two time, you have to have a base attack bonus at least +6/+1?
- with rapid shot(light crossbow), you have one additional shot, so with a base attack bonus lesser than +6/+1, you have 2 shots?
- with Rapid reload and Rapid shot what does it mean for the character?
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Rapid Reload:
If you have selected this feat for hand crossbow or light crossbow, you may fire that weapon as many times in a full-attack action as you could attack if you were using a bow.
Rapid Shot:
When making a full-attack action with a ranged weapon, you can fire one additional time this round. All of your attack rolls take a –2 penalty when using Rapid Shot.
So with a +6 BAB you get:
+4/+4/-1.
Lower than that (say 5 Bab) you get
+3/+3.
Rapid shot gives one more attack at your highest BAB. It also gives a -2 penalty on all attacks.
To clarify (or at least reiterate) a point suggested in John Spalding's post, you need Rapid Reload for Rapid Shot to be useful with a light crossbow.
Since reloading a light crossbow takes a move action, you cannot full-attack with it, no matter your BAB. With Rapid Reload, this reload time is effectively removed, allowing you to use the iterative attacks from BAB. You can then add an additional one with Rapid Shot.
To clarify (or at least reiterate) a point suggested in John Spalding's post, you need Rapid Reload for Rapid Shot to be useful with a light crossbow.
That's what I thought
Since reloading a light crossbow takes a move action, you cannot full-attack with it, no matter your BAB. With Rapid Reload, this reload time is effectively removed, allowing you to use the iterative attacks from BAB.
OK ,so with a BAB = +5, you can shot, move and reload your light crossbow.
With a BAB = +6/+1, you can shot, move, reload and shot one more time.
You can then add an additional one with Rapid Shot.
OK ,so with a BAB = +5, you can shot (+3), move, reload your light crossbow and shot one more time(+3)
With a BAB = +6/+1, you can shot twice (+4 -1), move, reload and shot one more time (+4???).
So with a +6 BAB you get: +4/+4/-1.
I understand the +4 and -1 due to (+6)-2 and (+1)-2 but the other +4 is due to a +6 like another attack with your full attack bonus like a "haste", but that's not clear said in the rule.
To clarify (or at least reiterate) a point suggested in John Spalding's post, you need Rapid Reload for Rapid Shot to be useful with a light crossbow.That's what I thought
Since reloading a light crossbow takes a move action, you cannot full-attack with it, no matter your BAB. With Rapid Reload, this reload time is effectively removed, allowing you to use the iterative attacks from BAB.
OK ,so with a BAB = +5, you can shot, move and reload your light crossbow.
With a BAB = +6/+1, you can shot, move, reload and shot one more time.
You can then add an additional one with Rapid Shot.OK ,so with a BAB = +5, you can shot (+3), move, reload your light crossbow and shot one more time(+3)
With a BAB = +6/+1, you can shot twice (+4 -1), move, reload and shot one more time (+4???).I understand the +4 and -1 due to (+6)-2 and (+1)-2 but the other +4 is due to a +6 like another attack with your full attack bonus like a "haste", but that's not clear said in the rule.
So with a +6 BAB you get: +4/+4/-1.
Actually, no. "Full attack", or using your iterative attacks, is a full-round action. You can do nothing but attack (and take free/swift actions). You cannot take a move action. So, with the crossbow, you can shoot, move action to reload, and that's it. It doesn't matter what your BAB is, unless you have Rapid Reload.
Essentially, you cannot full-attack with a crossbow unless you have Rapid Reload. This makes it almost a requirement for a crossbow focused character.
Let's take a look at a +6 BAB character with a crossbow.
If he has not focused on the crossbow and hasn't spent any feats on it, then he just gets one shot per round. He uses his standard action to fire and then, if he wants to shoot again, he has to use his move action to reload it. His first (and only) shot this round would be at +6 base.
If he has taken Rapid Reload, then he can use the Full-Attack action. He can fire two shots, one at +6 and one at +1.
If he has taken Rapid Reload and Rapid Shot, he can fire three shots with his full attack action. Two shots at +4 and one shot at -1.
If he further gets haste cast on him, he can fire four shots. Three of them are at +5 (since haste grants a +1 to attack) and the fourth shot at +0.
Does that make sense?
Excuse me for the mistake concerning the movement of the PC, of course he can't do it!
Thanks for your explanations. That's clear! THANKS!