All fine and dandy. But if you are going to answer a question about that rulebook, at least take the time to explain how you arrived at that conclusion.I did.
You did? The "post hidding bug" must still be acting up because I don't se where you said "The phrase 'make sure to' should probably be read as 'you must,' and still applies four sentences later when the book says 'Finally, add new skills and feats.'"
All I see from the post you linked is where you threw down a dictionary written in Russian, and told me (figuratively, of course) to figure it out my damn self.
Or am I mis-representing you again?
Hmmm...looks like this thread isn't achieving the desired result...maybe another appeal to the public's sense of justice is in order...
What result do you desire from this thread?
((And it is "publics'"))
I have to admit I was having more fun cussing in binary.
Hmmm...looks like this thread isn't achieving the desired result...maybe another appeal to the public's sense of justice is in order...What result do you desire from this thread?
((And it is "publics'"))
Pretty sure it's "the public's" there. Public is a singular object even though it represents a group. "The public does this, the public does that." "The public" is a single entity.
As for who represents Paizo, I'd say only people who have a job title in their forum ID.
You did? The "post hidding bug" must still be acting up because I don't se where you said "The phrase 'make sure to' should probably be read as 'you must,' and still applies four sentences later when the book says 'Finally, add new skills and feats.'"
I didn't say that because it's not needed. When you're told to do something by the rules of the game, you do it. A command in a manual is something to be obeyed, not ignored. I pointed out that it was written in the grammatical construct used for commands and orders and linked the Wikipedia page that describes that grammatical construct because, frankly, Wikipedia explains it better than I would. I'm a horrible teacher.
That's not to say you can't house-rule the command in question; it's merely to say that a command is a command and it was written in the form of a command properly.
Or am I mis-representing you again?
Yes, but that's nothing new.
Hmmm...looks like this thread isn't achieving the desired result...maybe another appeal to the public's sense of justice is in order...((And it is "publics'"))
Only if Sebastian was referring to multiple publics. "Public" is a noun referring to a community. "Publics" is a noun referring to multiple communities. When making a noun possessive ("of the X"), 's is for singular nouns and s' is for plural nouns. In this context, "public's" appears to be the correct possessive form.
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Pretty sure it's "the public's" there. Public is a singular object even though it represents a group. "The public does this, the public does that." "The public" is a single entity.Hmmm...looks like this thread isn't achieving the desired result...maybe another appeal to the public's sense of justice is in order...What result do you desire from this thread?
((And it is "publics'"))
+1
Sometimes you can get away with publics if you are talking about two or more separate polities.
Pretty sure it's "the public's" there. Public is a singular object even though it represents a group. "The public does this, the public does that." "The public" is a single entity.
Really?
Then Firefox needs to adjust their spellchecker because it complained about public's, but it likes publics'.
I didn't say that because it's not needed. When you're told to do something by the rules of the game, you do it.
But, when you are describing for the benefit of those that admit English isn't their first language - it is needed.
But I think I figured out where you are mistaken...
You thought you were arguing with my understanding of the rule, which never entered the discussion.
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Pretty sure it's "the public's" there. Public is a singular object even though it represents a group. "The public does this, the public does that." "The public" is a single entity.Really?
Then Firefox needs to adjust their spellchecker because it complained about public's, but it likes publics'.
My Firefox underlines publics in red for me and leaves public's alone. Regional settings?
My Firefox underlines publics in red for me and leaves public's alone. Regional settings?
((I never thought continuing the game with Sebastian would spawn such a diversion.))
Probably. I haven't messed with the settings at all. It is probably set to where ever Canonical calls home then.
But, when you are describing for the benefit of those that admit English isn't their first language - it is needed.
Really? People who don't speak English don't understand what commands are? That's news to me. As I pointed out to you in the other thread, every single language has an imperative mood used for commands. It's a universal concept in a way that some other things (such as plurals) are not. It certainly is true that other languages form their imperatives in different ways, which is why I pointed out that it was written in imperative mood and linked to a page that described imperatives in various languages.
I'd also like to point out, for the record, that the post we're arguing about was written before the original poster in that thread mentioned that he was not a native English speaker, and that he was significantly more eloquent in English than several native speakers that post here, so I had no reason to think I needed to go any further in depth for that reason.
Then Firefox needs to adjust their spellchecker because it complained about public's, but it likes publics'.
And we awl no that spell checkers are all ways write.
I'd also like to point out, for the record, that the post we're arguing about was written before the original poster in that thread mentioned that he was not a native English speaker,
So what?
You were arguing with me, who had already guessed the questioner wasn't a native English speaker. If you notice, the issues I pointed out in my very first post in that thread matched exactly with issues the questioner listed after admitting that English wasn't their native language.
Of course, having said that, you are probably going to claim that is just a sock puppet account for me, right?
I'd also like to point out, for the record, that the post we're arguing about was written before the original poster in that thread mentioned that he was not a native English speaker,So what?
You were arguing with me, who had already guessed the questioner wasn't a native English speaker. If you notice, the issues I pointed out in my very first post in that thread matched exactly with issues the questioner listed after admitting that English wasn't their native language.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? If you notice, I was responding to your argument that the rules don't explicitly tell you to spend your feat when you level (I'll also point out that your argument flip-flopped around between whether the rules need to implicitly or explicitly state this; going by your first post, the rules need to be implicit, while going by the post I responded to, the rules need to be explicit). I wasn't responding to the OP at all.
I also note that you're avoiding my actual argument and attacking a sidenote. It's amusing how often that happens when people don't think they can actually refute the argument. I sometimes include side notes like this just so I can laugh at the people desperately clutching to them as something they can respond to without admitting that I'm right.
I'd just like to say that I'm digging the new title. All I had to do was posit a reasoned argument based on established linguistic concepts and BAM, I dub thee elitist. I AM an ESL teacher by trade, so if the shoe fits...although honestly, Disenchanter, if it's a formal title you should have capitalized each word rather than just the first.
Yours in pretention,
Zo, English Language Elitist, Esq.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
You got me, you were the one who wanted to bring it up "for the record."
If you notice, I was responding to your argument that the rules don't explicitly tell you to spend your feat when you level (I'll also point out that your argument flip-flopped around between whether the rules need to implicitly or explicitly state this; going by your first post, the rules need to be implicit, while going by the post I responded to, the rules need to be explicit). I wasn't responding to the OP at all.
I never cared enough to know there was a difference. Your elitism is secured.
I also note that you're avoiding my actual argument and attacking a sidenote. It's amusing how often that happens when people don't think they can actually refute the argument. I sometimes include side notes like this just so I can laugh at the people desperately clutching to them as something they can respond to without admitting that I'm right.
Well, I was trying to be polite and not point out that you were deliberately arguing with me, rather than look at that thread as a whole. But fine.
Really? People who don't speak English don't understand what commands are? That's news to me. As I pointed out to you in the other thread, every single language has an imperative mood used for commands.
I can't say if people who don't speak English understand what commands are, but you can't assume they understand what imperative mood is, or that wikipedia will make any sense to them. As I told you, my high school never took the time to explain imperative mood to us. I never even heard the phrase until late in college.
So... How are you going to suggest I didn't maintain the same stance throughout that entire thread now?
Disenchanter, if it's a formal title you should have capitalized each word rather than just the first.
Well, if it were a formal title you would get a plaque or something. It is strictly informal.
I can't say if people who don't speak English understand what commands are, but you can't assume they understand what imperative mood is
Which is why I explicitly stated what imperative mood is.
As already pointed out in this thread, it is written in the imperative mood, which is used for commands. You are commanded to spend your skills and feats as the last step to leveling up.
I can't say if people who don't speak English understand what commands are, but you can't assume they understand what imperative mood isWhich is why I explicitly stated what imperative mood is.
As already pointed out in this thread, it is written in the imperative mood, which is used for commands. You are commanded to spend your skills and feats as the last step to leveling up.
I don't think you'll convince him. All you're doing is feeding him delicious billy-goat flavored troll candy.
Zo, Lord of English
Which is why I explicitly stated what imperative mood is.
As already pointed out in this thread, it is written in the imperative mood, which is used for commands. You are commanded to spend your skills and feats as the last step to leveling up.
You know what?
I missed that.
I was infuriated you linked to wikipedia as if that was going to fix everything for everyone.
But you know... I'm incapable of admitting you're right. You got me pegged.
EDIT:: Awww.... Zurai! You deleted your post! How can I quote that you are amused that you can never convince me of anything?
Man, there's a lot of (b)anal going on here. Just invoke DM fiat and be done with it. Geesh. :P
This thread just keeps on keepin' on.
That is probably due to the fact that the second poster in it couldn't even keep it on topic. A lot of posts got distracted from that post on.
But you know... I'm incapable of admitting you're right. You got me pegged.
I like what you did there. I'm not sure but I think you just blew my mind.
Zo
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This thread just keeps on keepin' on.That is probably due to the fact that the second poster in it couldn't even keep it on topic. A lot of posts got distracted from that post on.
You're right - this definitely wasn't a trainwreck from the first post. But for that darn second poster, I'm sure those bad old people on the internet who done wronged you would've fessed up and said they was real sorry by now.
Comedy gold, from your profile, to the first post, to the title, to infinity, and beyond.
You're right - this definitely wasn't a trainwreck from the first post.
I'm assuming you are serious with this, so I'd like to know how the first post was a trainwreck?[/seriousness]
I mean, other than in your own mind. How do you have room for anything in there and your ego?
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If you don't understand what the problem is with this thread (and your profile) from the word go, I'm certain that I lack the ability to distill and explain it. It'd be like explaining color to the blind, and, though I am a god among men, I'm no Eric Stoltz* of the internet.
*Here's the set-up for the ugly/mutant joke in your response.
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Dienchanter,
If you would be so kind, please add me to the list of English language elitists.
I think that communication is important here, and that taking the time and effort to communicate clearly is a sign of respect for one's readers.
I'm also not shy about sesquipedalianism, when appropriate, and expect people to run a quick check on their grammar and spelling before they hit "Submit post". Again, I consider it a mark of respect.
I'm also not shy about sesquipedalianism, when appropriate, and expect people to run a quick check on their grammar and spelling before they hit "Submit post".
I learned a new word today!
Interesting fact: The spell checker in my Firefox tells me sesquipedalianism is misspelled. According to Dictionary.com, it is not.
(Added sesquipedalianism to my Firefox dictionary file.)
How did this thread get so far off topic?Butler beat MSU! Go...um, what's Butler's mascot???
Tartar Sauce!
No, no, no. I can't imagine any school picking tartar sauce as its mascot. That is patently absurd.
If you don't understand what the problem is with this thread (and your profile) from the word go, I'm certain that I lack the ability to distill and explain it. It'd be like explaining color to the blind, and, though I am a god among men, I'm no Eric Stoltz* of the internet.
Ahhh... I get it. You are incapable of pulling that ten foot pole out of your rectum to come down to human level. Fair enough.
*Here's the set-up for the ugly/mutant joke in your response.
If I did what you expected, what would be the fun in it for you?
Dienchanter [sic],
If you would be so kind, please add me to the list of English language elitists.
Done.
Never let it be said that I am not kind.
If you don't understand what the problem is with this thread (and your profile) from the word go, I'm certain that I lack the ability to distill and explain it. It'd be like explaining color to the blind, and, though I am a god among men, I'm no Eric Stoltz* of the internet.Ahhh... I get it. You are incapable of pulling that ten foot pole out of your rectum to come down to human level. Fair enough.
*Here's the set-up for the ugly/mutant joke in your response.If I did what you expected, what would be the fun in it for you?
Dienchanter [sic],
If you would be so kind, please add me to the list of English language elitists.
Done.
Never let it be said that I am not kind.
~LAUGHTER~ GO DISENCHANTER!!!!
Yay! The mind control helmet is working!How did this thread get so far off topic?I blame you.
taig is the scapegoat of the year, so go ahead and blame him.
Baaaaa!
Baaaaa!
~glares at taig~ You are to blame for my right thumbnail being broken and bleeding some. It does not matter if the equipment I was working on caused it, you are STILL to blame!!!
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If you don't understand what the problem is with this thread (and your profile) from the word go, I'm certain that I lack the ability to distill and explain it. It'd be like explaining color to the blind, and, though I am a god among men, I'm no Eric Stoltz* of the internet.Ahhh... I get it. You are incapable of pulling that ten foot pole out of your rectum to come down to human level. Fair enough.
*shrug* Like I said, if I thought you would understand, I'd explain it.
If it's any consolation, I'm starting to feel bad about poking at you. It seems like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of interpersonal relationships, even on the internet. I don't think it's particularly fair to poke at something a person can't control.
Anyway, good luck with the hunt for justice. I'll be using my ten foot pole to find traps or something in some other thread.
QUIT SEXUALLY HARASSING ME YOU PERVERT!!!~LAUGHTER~ GO DISENCHANTER!!!!
Oh, come on, pony boi! Give it up! You can do it!
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If you don't understand what the problem is with this thread (and your profile) from the word go, I'm certain that I lack the ability to distill and explain it. It'd be like explaining color to the blind, and, though I am a god among men, I'm no Eric Stoltz* of the internet.Ahhh... I get it. You are incapable of pulling that ten foot pole out of your rectum to come down to human level. Fair enough.
*shrug* Like I said, if I thought you would understand, I'd explain it.
If it's any consolation, I'm starting to feel bad about poking at you. It seems like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of interpersonal relationships, even on the internet. I don't think it's particularly fair to poke at something a person can't control.
Anyway, good luck with the hunt for justice. I'll be using my ten foot pole to find traps or something in some other thread.
"Why is Sebastian 'scooting' on the floor?"
"Oh, he's looking for traps again."
If it's any consolation, I'm starting to feel bad about poking at you.
First, do you think I am not able to tell you are lying? You don't have feelings.
Second, did you just admit in a public place to attempting to digitally rape me? I think the cyber police need to be called in.
Second, did you just admit in a public place...
The term is publics place.
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If it's any consolation, I'm starting to feel bad about poking at you.First, do you think I am not able to tell you are lying? You don't have feelings.
Second, did you just admit in a public place to attempting to digitally rape me? I think the cyber police need to be called in.
Of course Sebastian is lying. He's a lawyer; he gets paid to do that. Luckily, it seems that the initial consultation is free of charge. Afterwards, the digital rape comes in when one gets his billable hours.
If you don't understand what the problem is with this thread (and your profile) from the word go, I'm certain that I lack the ability to distill and explain it. It'd be like explaining color to the blind, and, though I am a god among men, I'm no Eric Stoltz* of the internet.Ahhh... I get it. You are incapable of pulling that ten foot pole out of your rectum to come down to human level. Fair enough.
*shrug* Like I said, if I thought you would understand, I'd explain it.
If it's any consolation, I'm starting to feel bad about poking at you. It seems like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of interpersonal relationships, even on the internet. I don't think it's particularly fair to poke at something a person can't control.
Anyway, good luck with the hunt for justice. I'll be using my ten foot pole to find traps or something in some other thread.
"Why is Sebastian 'scooting' on the floor?"
"Oh, he's looking for traps again."
~snickers~ Zing!