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Yeah, Middle English... not so difficult.
Old English like Beowulf on the other hand- generally takes a little training.
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I am aware that society play may differ somewhat from regular play, however it is set in Galarion is it not? So things in the campaign setting, such as the reference regarding speakers of Osiriani being able to, with some effort, decipher ancient Osiriani should be valid in society play... as it it set in Galarion.
That and James Jacobs did state that in the revised Campaign Setting book that humans would start with both common and their native language. So, is that not to apply to society play either? If not, what is the point of setting the game in Galarion if things that are Galarion specific from the Pathfinder Campaign Setting book are not going to apply?
Since the actual wording of what you are talking about gives no rules detail as to how to adjudicate this precisely Josh has previously ruled that each must be it's own language and you spend accordingly.
I can hardly wait for the new CS to come out so everyone can complain that they don't retroactively get their native tongue for free either...
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I can hardly wait for the new CS to come out so everyone can complain that they don't retroactively get their native tongue for free either...
Silly humans. Always complaining about something. Don't forget the guy who will post that he's never playing PFS again because this makes his character useless and he doesn't want to have to start from scratch.
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Bah. If not getting your native language for free bothers people so much look at it this way. You GOT your native language for free and then the Pathfinder Society forced you to spend a point on linguistics to learn Common (Taldane) during training so that you wouldn't be a totally useless field agent.
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I've read this thread, but still have a question (for PFS play).
Do I need to take the trait "Osirionologist (Regional)" from the Inner Sea Primer in order to gain access to Ancient Osirioni, and then pick it up with a high intelligence score, or can I just put a point into linguistics and pick up a different trait?
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Yes, as per the Guide under the Languages section:
Your race and class selection impact what languages you start with. All characters gain Common as a free language. You gain free languages granted by your race, ethnicity (for humans), and class (e.g., Druidic for druids).
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But don't confuse knowing Osiriani for knowing Ancient Osiriani.
You still need to take the Ancient version as a separate language if you want to know it flat out. I think you get a bonus on a linguistics check if you don't know it but you know Osiriani (at least a couple scenarios indicate such--don't know if its part of standard RAW).
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It's correct. However, the opposite is a bit different. If you know Ancient Osiriani, you also know Modern Osiriani for free. However, if you attempt to speak it, you do so with a VERY heavy accent.
thematically, I equate it to someone trying to speak Middle English to a teenager today.
Really? I've never heard of that! Where is that from?
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Osiriani, Ancient
this precursor to to modern Osiriani shares many similarities and differs mainly in its hieroglyphics and lexicon. Speakers of this tongue can speak modern Osiriani, but with an archaic accent.
Never thought about it, but this wording implies if you only know Ancient Osiriani, you cannot READ modern, only speak it.
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Thank you for all the responses!
I've decided to use a linguistics skill point to take Ancient Osiriani.
Since I'm from the region, I should get common and Osiriani for free, and since I'm a halfling, I should get halfling language for free.
I'll then take the trait I wanted right from the start (Lettered) from the Halflings of Golarion, as well as the Tomb Raider campaign trait.
I intend to play a halfling sorcerer who is a researcher/smuggler of Ancient Osirion relics.
Incidentally... when we load our characters onto the site, is there a spot for our character's backstory as well?
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Since I'm from the region, I should get common and Osiriani for free, and since I'm a halfling, I should get halfling language for free.Sadly, only humans of a given racial ethnicity get "regional" languages for free. So a Varisian Human gets Varisian for free, but a Halfling from Varisia does not.
Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Doesn't make sense to me, but I suppose it's probably intended to balance out the power of the races.
So... I would require an additional linguistics point in order to read modern Osiriani, and will therefore simply have to rely on linguistic rolls to get me by until 2nd level =)
Sounds good.
Edit: Also... I just realized that with my int bonus (+2) I'll be able to pick up Osiriani and another language (though I'll still need to spend the skill point on linguistics since Ancient Osiriani isn't available as a bonus language).