A Giants Revisited book would be very tough to do. Titans wouldn't go in there (they're outsiders and could actually fill their OWN book), and we've already done ogres and trolls in the first book (Classic Monsters).
1: Hill giant
2: Stone giant
3: Fire giant
4: Frost giant
5: Cloud giant
6: Storm giant
7: Ettin
8: Cyclops
9: ?
10: ?
9: Annis
10: ???Or you could do an "Old Hags revisited" too...
Let's see... were I commissioning this book today, the 10 chapters would be...
1: Dryads
2: Satyrs
3: Redcaps
4: Quicklings
5: Nymphs
6: Pixies
7: Gremlins
8: Leprechauns
9: Mites
10: Nerieds
Fixed that for you.
In all seriousness, I'd be highly interested in a book about the fey. The topic of fey immortality, how it relates to elven lifespans, how this relates to planar traits, morality, and implications for mortals would make for an interesting read. Given how well Paizo's staff have handled the inhabitants of Hell and the Abyss, I think we'd be in for a real treat.
BTW, if you should find yourself needing any guest artists, check out Lindsay Archer. She does a great job with fey and has good deal of experience illustrating RPG products.
I would so love a book on the Fey of Golarion. Count me in for the Classic Fey Revisited. I also like the Mythic Monsters idea...
Gotta have the centerfolds in the right place. ;)
LOL.
Agreed! The Marsh Giant and Taiga Giant may not have a long history in the game but they are "classic" for Golarion. These two would round out the Giants Rivisted book nicely.9. Marsh Giant
10. Taiga Giant
11. Rune Giant
Thirded! Not being able to fill the # 9 and #10 spots would be no reason to skip a great book like this. Giants are a natural fit. And if you thought that the new ones weren't worthy of the full 6-page write up, you could use those last two slots to do all three of the above with 4-page spreads, thereby covering all your bases.
Definitely like the Mythic Monsters idea. *gets out the sword, straps on the sandals, puts Harryhausen DVDs in the player*
9. Marsh Giant
10. Taiga Giant
11. Rune Giant
That I think is a good idea. I like those giants and would be interested to seem them "revisited"
I would remove satyrs from the list.
HEY!!!
A Giants Revisited book would be very tough to do. Titans wouldn't go in there (they're outsiders and could actually fill their OWN book), and we've already done ogres and trolls in the first book (Classic Monsters).
1: Hill giant
2: Stone giant
3: Fire giant
4: Frost giant
5: Cloud giant
6: Storm giant
7: Ettin
8: Cyclops
9: ?
10: ?
Since there's already a lot of Norse influence here, so expand on that.
There would be ocean giants - which would fill the aquatic giant niche. Sorcerous masters of the waves, living under the sea but have island homes for when they brew ale (like Ægir and his daughters)
Also: mountain giants - which would fill the "we put the giant back into giant" niche als gargantuan (or even colossal) giants (since rune giants probably aren't classic enough to make the book).
Beyond that, there's always all those other myths of giants around the world.
Have Daityas - vudrani giants that are powerful enough to be able to challenge the gods themselves (or at least were at some time, or think they are/should be). Giants could use this near-epic addition to their cadre.
And I just read an interesting story about an old Pawnee legend that there were once human-like beings in their country that were three times as big as a human and incredibly fast and strong. They could (and totally would) run alongside a buffalo, rip out one of its legs and eat it as they ran on. They also had 6 fingers, and it's told that the Pawnee raised their hands in greeting so you could count their fingers and see that they're clearly human. I don't know whether that's fit for a Classic Giants book, but you and me both know we want some bestiary entry about a race of 6-fingered, 18-foot-tall sprinting giants that like to rip off their prey's legs in full sprint to eat them.
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There would be ocean giants - which would fill the aquatic giant niche. Sorcerous masters of the waves, living under the sea but have island homes for when they brew ale (like Ægir and his daughters)
Also: mountain giants - which would fill the "we put the giant back into giant" niche als gargantuan (or even colossal) giants (since rune giants probably aren't classic enough to make the book).
I'm a fan of 'mythic' advancements for Frost, Fire and Stone Giants, to have Gargantuan and Colossal versions, that generally live in the outer plans, but not always. The 'mountain giants' could just be uber-advanced Stone Giants, and be accompanied by 'glacier giants' and 'caldera giants' or something.
Have Daityas - vudrani giants that are powerful enough to be able to challenge the gods themselves (or at least were at some time, or think they are/should be). Giants could use this near-epic addition to their cadre.
Hot. A quick and dirty version of this could start with Oni / Ogre Magi stats, bumped up to Gargantuan or Colossal size, and replacing Ogre Magi abilities with much beefier options, but following the same themes (cone of cold replaced with some sort of lightning storm or storm of vengeance option, for instance).
In all seriousness, I'd be highly interested in a book about the fey. The topic of fey immortality, how it relates to elven lifespans, how this relates to planar traits, morality, and implications for mortals would make for an interesting read. Given how well Paizo's staff have handled the inhabitants of Hell and the Abyss, I think we'd be in for a real treat.
I would so love to see something going into that level of information on Fey and the First World, on par with the Book of the Damned for Hell and the Abyss and their denizens.
I'm a fan of 'mythic' advancements for Frost, Fire and Stone Giants, to have Gargantuan and Colossal versions, that generally live in the outer plans, but not always. The 'mountain giants' could just be uber-advanced Stone Giants, and be accompanied by 'glacier giants' and 'caldera giants' or something.
Or just some sort of Earth Gigas, accidentally wandered over from the plane of Earth. That right there will put the giant in gigantic, but still smaller than titanic.
Definitely like the Mythic Monsters idea. *gets out the sword, straps on the sandals, puts Harryhausen DVDs in the player*Harryhausen kicks ass!
Netflix is also a friend, with many Harryhausen films available to be watched instantly.
Its funny how much of your childhood you can forget when you get in your early 40's. If you'd asked me who was my favorite fantasy hero as a kid, I'd never think to say Sinbad- and yet when I really think about it, its true.
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They could be rolled into Deadline Monsters Revisited.
You'd have the Owlbear, Gorillabear, Bearhound, Duckbunny, Asswere, Starfishpanda, Sealion, Seacat, Seatiger and the Miniature Giant Space Hamster.
Here's some more ideas for 'deadline monsters', if anyone on the staff's feeling the strain...
Cant have the Owlbear under deadline Monsters it's already been covered in Dungeon Denizens Revisited.
And as for the Minature giant Space Hamster..all I can say is
"Go for the eyes Boo, Go for the eyes!!!!!!"
Here's some more ideas for 'deadline monsters', if anyone on the staff's feeling the strain...They could be rolled into Deadline Monsters Revisited.
You'd have the Owlbear, Gorillabear, Bearhound, Duckbunny, Asswere, Starfishpanda, Sealion, Seacat, Seatiger and the Miniature Giant Space Hamster.
Those are so cool - wow mad Moreau mage material!
Or you could do an "Old Hags revisited" too...
just get the Golden Girls Boxed set
Please write my book soon or I will cry.
I want "Real-life nightmares revisited"
Basically put in 10 of THESE REAL LIFE MONSTERS
Basically put in 10 of THESE REAL LIFE MONSTERS
Great, I was planning on sleeping a few hours this weekend, you big jerk.
(Really doesn't help that I recently read Bio-meat, and the squid with teeth looks like the U.S. variety.)
Let's see... were I commissioning this book today, the 10 chapters would be...
1: Dryads
2: Satyrs
3: Nymphs
4: Pixies
5: Redcaps
6: Quicklings
7: Gremlins
8: Leprechauns
9: Mites
10: Nerieds
What about Shadar-kai or other unseely? With Redcaps, quicklings, gremlins and mites there it would be appropiate to have a 5 vs. 5 structure to it. I would leave nereids out in favoer for one more bad guy.
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What about Shadar-kai or other unseely? With Redcaps, quicklings, gremlins and mites there it would be appropiate to have a 5 vs. 5 structure to it. I would leave nereids out in favoer for one more bad guy.Let's see... were I commissioning this book today, the 10 chapters would be...
1: Dryads
2: Satyrs
3: Nymphs
4: Pixies
5: Redcaps
6: Quicklings
7: Gremlins
8: Leprechauns
9: Mites
10: Nerieds
Shadarkai are not OGC, plus the potential title here is after all "Classic Fey Revisited", not "Stuff Made up for the Fiend Folio". Shadar-kai never existed before 3e. They're totally a WotC creation, and WotC IP to boot.
And the whole Seelie/Unseelie, as indicated elsewhere in this thread, is thought to be a bit played out by now. Doesn't mean there won't be more obviously adversarial fey introduced here and there, though. And who's to say that satyrs, pixies, nereids, and leprechauns are necessarily benevolent, after all. You've really got a 2 vs. 4 vs. 4 split, not 5 on 5.
Will we see stats for Richard Simmons, Elton John, Liberace and Andy Warhol?
hee hee - that's funny.
GRU
What about Shadar-kai or other unseely? With Redcaps, quicklings, gremlins and mites there it would be appropiate to have a 5 vs. 5 structure to it. I would leave nereids out in favoer for one more bad guy.Shadarkai are not OGC, plus the potential title here is after all "Classic Fey Revisited", not "Stuff Made up for the Fiend Folio". Shadar-kai never existed before 3e. They're totally a WotC creation, and WotC IP to boot.
Maybe Paizo should make a "Classic Stuff Made up for the Fiend Folio Revisited". :)
Are the Gith and the Dark Stalkers not in that category too?
Not sure about Gith, but I believe Dark Stalkers and Dark Creepers go back to at least 2E.
The Dark Folk (creepers and stalkers) go back to the AD&D Fiend Folio...so, 1st Edition.
Not sure about Gith, but I believe Dark Stalkers and Dark Creepers go back to at least 2E.The Dark Folk (creepers and stalkers) go back to the AD&D Fiend Folio...so, 1st Edition.
As do Gith and Drow! A lot of really sweet badguys come from the 1E FF. It would be cool to see some of them in a Classic Fiends Revisited.
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As do Gith and Drow! A lot of really sweet badguys come from the 1E FF. It would be cool to see some of them in a Classic Fiends Revisited.Not sure about Gith, but I believe Dark Stalkers and Dark Creepers go back to at least 2E.The Dark Folk (creepers and stalkers) go back to the AD&D Fiend Folio...so, 1st Edition.
The Drow are overdone and the Gith belong to WoTC.
Are we going to see anything done with aberrations in this vein? Lords of Madness was good, but you guys could do something like and make it even better.
Basically put in 10 of THESE REAL LIFE MONSTERSGreat, I was planning on sleeping a few hours this weekend, you big jerk.
Didn't you read the disclaimer? "If you treasure your peace of mind, do not read posts written by KaeYoss or click on his links." It was not actually written down anywhere up until now, but it was heavily implied. I mean, come on!
And you're just upset because you know you've been naughty and now the doom fish will come and eat your soul.
A Giants Revisited book would be very tough to do. Titans wouldn't go in there (they're outsiders and could actually fill their OWN book), and we've already done ogres and trolls in the first book (Classic Monsters).
1: Hill giant
2: Stone giant
3: Fire giant
4: Frost giant
5: Cloud giant
6: Storm giant
7: Ettin
8: Cyclops
9: ?
10: ?
Firbolg? Voadkyn? Fomorian? Desert Giant?
Giant robot?
You know the best thing about being a fairy? You get to fly.
You know the best thing about being a fairy? You get to fly.
Many faeries don't fly.
The wings of the template should be an option, not a granted perk.|
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Are we going to see anything done with aberrations in this vein? Lords of Madness was good, but you guys could do something like and make it even better.
There are already the seugathi and the vemerak introduced in Into the Darklands, but yes, more weird, creepy aberrations would be appreciated, too.
Just for the record, I liked 3rd edition Shadar-kai. They were creepy, nasty fey creatures that would have got along just fine with Zon-Kuthon's followers.
The emo "no one understands us so we'll be terminally unique" Shadar-kai are the 4E revision of the (still fairly young) race, in part to make them a better Player Character race.
You know the best thing about being a fairy? You get to fly.Many faeries don't fly.
The wings of the template should be an option, not a granted perk.
Acually, that was a quote from Cursed. ;)
Acually, that was a quote from Cursed. ;)
Oh. I guess i failed my Knowledge (Popculture) check.
But i didn't see that movie.
Just for the record, I liked 3rd edition Shadar-kai. They were creepy, nasty fey creatures that would have got along just fine with Zon-Kuthon's followers.
I'm with you. They were fun in 3e
As a central Wisconsin native I am actually really interested to see what you guys do with the Hodag. Add that to the long list of things I look forward to seeing what you do with.
And you're just upset because you know you've been naughty and now the doom fish will come and eat your soul.
Do the Doomfish handle the cold well enough to survive a prolonged search? Because... well... one time I REALLY wanted a Klondike bar...
How about a "Classic Aquatic Creature and Monster Variants Revisited" containing Locatha, Sahuagin, Merrow, Scrag, Lacedon and Koalinth.
(was just reading OotS the other day ;) )
