I got copies too, thank you!
Much appreciated Elghinn
Uh, what?
I will soon be posting some ideas on the NEW samurai here on the board. I've tried to incorporate the ideas I've received already from Dabbler and Steelfiredragon. I'll want lots of feed back on the samurai so I can get a good rebuild. Also, I'm hoping to hear some feed back about the other rebuilds you've downloaded. I assume you're all checking them out, so I'll be patient for your responses. Apparently 16 people have downloaded my files. That was a surprise. Anyways, enjoy the files and let me know what you think on each of them. If anyone would like to play test the Warlord of Arcaknight, that would be great. I only get to play 1-2 times per year with my group in another city, so anyone willing to try them, and the rebuilds would be great so we can figure out what to change and keep the same. Thanx everyone.
Looking through, I have one suggestion for the Ninja - scrap Sudden Strike, and just make it Sneak Attack as per the rogue instead. It's really such a small difference that it's not worth keeping IMHO. I would also suggest adding some synergy with the Monk there, as both are ki-using classes.
Good point, Dabbler. I changed sudden strike to sneak attack, and added the following at the end of the Ninja's Ki Pool text block
If the ninja has levels in monk, the monk and ninja ki points stack for the purpose of selecting ki related powers.
Thanx.
Downloaded and flagged for follow-up. Thanks.Three guesses what I get in my lap tomorrow, together with highlights, post-its, and 'suggestions'...
Heh heh! Not quite so quickly fella - give me a weekend...
Alright everyone, I've uploaded my Pathfinder Samurai total rebuild on my Mediafire account. Please take a good look and let me know what you think. I tried to keep the true flavor of the historical samurai, with some altereations for playability and choice for the player.
Enjoy.
Great Steelfiredragon. This thread's been very quiet lately. Is everyone busy elsewhere, take my ideas and run, or what? Just curious. I'd love some feedback about the changes. Later
BTW I have a number of races favored by players in my Campaign World converted to Pathfinder also, as player races with no level adjustments. I also compiled those in the Bestiary I liked.
These include: aasmiar, derro (sort of a 3.5/Pathfinder hybrid-I hated how they nerfed him and made him a fey instead of a dwarf subrace), dragonborn (3.5/4 hybrid), drow (Bestiary), duergar (bestiary), goliath (3.5/4 hybrid), lurpurn my own hound bipeds), ondonti (2E conversion), orog (2E conversion), quickling (2E conversion), Sirjif Minotaur (Minotaur/human hybrids, tough but smaller and more intelligent), svirfneblin (Bestiary), tiefling (Bestiary), udda (my own desert elves, not 3.5), and warforged (3.5 conversion). Let me know, I can post a PDF on my Mediafire account.
An eldritch blast is a ray with a range of 60 feet. It is a ranged touch attack that affects a single target, allowing no saving throw. An eldritch blast deals 1d6 points of damage, with an additional 1d6 points of damage every two levels thereafter (3rd, 5th, 7th, etc.). An eldritch blast is the equivalent of a spell whose level is equal to one-half the warlock’s class level (rounded down) with a minimum spell level of 1st and a maximum of 9th when a warlock reaches 18th level or higher.
I know this is your personal conversion, but didn't they errata out the scaling level of eldritch blast, because it would explicitly exclude the warlock from ever making use of feats like Empower Spell-Like Ability or Quicken Spell-Like Ability? Such feats can only be used on SLA's with an equivalent level much lower than the creature's caster level.
know this is your personal conversion, but didn't they errata out the scaling level of eldritch blast, because it would explicitly exclude the warlock from ever making use of feats like Empower Spell-Like Ability or Quicken Spell-Like Ability? Such feats can only be used on SLA's with an equivalent level much lower than the creature's caster level.
Apparently so.
Change “An eldritch blast is the equivalent of a spell whose level is equal to one-half the warlock’s class level (round down), with a minimum spell level of 1st and a maximum of 9th when the warlock reaches 18th level or higher” to “An eldritch blast is the equivalent of a 1st-level spell. If you apply a blast shape or eldritch essence invocation to your eldritch blast (see page 130),your eldritch blast uses the level equivalent of the shape or essence.”
Any other references to eldritch blast being something other than the equivalent of a 1st-level spell should be disregarded.
Any other references claiming that eldritch blast is not an invocation should be disregarded.
Thanx for the heads up on the change, but that doesn't restrict his access to Spell-Like Ability feats. If your read the Spell-Like Ability feats, they all have the following prerequities:
Prerequisite: Spell-like ability at caster level 6th (10th for Quicken) or higher.
Which to me reads that the Warlock needs to have a spell-like ability by 6th level, at which level he can access the feat. This is supported by the Chart under the Quicken Spell-Like Ability feat in the MM 3.5 (p 304).
This says the following:
Empower and Quicken Spell-Like Ability
Spell Level/Caster Level to Empower/Caster Level to Quicken
0/4th/8th
1st/6th/10th
2nd/8th/12th
etc.
Since eldritch blast is considered a 1st-level spell, then the Warlock would need to be 6th level to use Empower Spell-Like Ability feat, and 10th level for the Quicken Spell-Like Ability feat, as shown on the table. So, we're not too screwed. Just have to change what the entry block reads, but Eldritch Blast still works with Spell-Like Ability feats.
I just posted another PDF on my Mediafire account that includes conversions of the Beguiler, Dread Necromancer, Hexblade, Psion and Psychic Warrior.
I've posted the link here for easy access. Hope it works. If not, check the previous post by Matt Devney on page 1 of this thread.
Dreamscarred Press are doing the 'official' Pathfinder conversions for the psionic classes and races, you might want to look at what they are doing here as they are looking for input.
As for non-standard races without level adjustments I suggested a system that had some good reception here that include options for the Derro and several other 1-3 HD races. Essentially, races with 'unbalanced' statistics and/or abilities can purchase them with racial feats rather than level adjustments.
I can see what's happened, the link you want is here Ceefood, it's an easy mistake to make when you are copying and pasting URLs ...
Thanx Dabbler. BTW, are the monster conversions at your previous post's link yours. If so, they look great. I did something similar, but only a few Racial Feats for each.
Yes, they are mine, although I had some help fine-tuning them in this thread, particularly from Arakhor and TriOmegaZero. I'd had the idea for ages, but this was the first time I really sat down and worked through it.
I don't see why myself, Pooh. Bards don't, after all.
I don't see why myself, Pooh. Bards don't, after all.
Or Summoners.
what about an abyssal pact for the new Warlock?
I was considering this before I discovered Pathfinder. That is, that humans do not naturally have magical powers. Divine & druidic powers are bestowed on worthy individuals by outside forces and wizards are taught their skills. For those who cast arcane magic spontaineously, it must be because of something else in their heritage through ancestory or dabbling where they perhaps ought not dabble.
Then along comes Pathfinder and it addresses this topic better than than I was planning to. The one major difference is that Pathfinder only applies bloodlines to sorcerrors and not to others with sorcerror like abilities. The Warlock apparently is addressed as he has some sort of demonic pact powering his magic. Bards gain their magic through their ability to perform and through specialized bardic knowledge.
The thrust of what I was asking about is that if the explanation of sorcerror powers is bloodlines, where do these other character classes derive inate (as opposed to taught or bestowed) magical talent?
You are confusing mechanics and fluff. Bloodlines are a mechanic of Sorcerers, where magic comes from is fluff.
Short answer - who cares? Eberron/Faerun/Greyhawk/Pathfinder world are worlds full of magic and nonsense.
Since this thread is working on bringing 3.5 noncore classes to pathfinder, this seemed the logical place to ask. Another reason for bringing this up is that few of the core Pathfinder classes are simply straight conversions from their 3.5 counterparts. They all seem to have a little something extra. If the group here, who have put a lot more effort into this than me, think the noncore 3.5 classes already have that extra something then I can go with that. I just thought I'd ask.
Well since one of the reasons for reworking the core classes was that non-core classes were getting more powerful/interesting, for many cases I would say it is largely unnecessary. The Scout for example doesn't need much converting. The Samurai needed a big overhaul because it was pretty much appalling, but that was an exception rather than the rule. Classes like the Duskblade or the Beguiler really don't need much converting at all.
looking over, for simplicity, I would have dropped the sudden strike from the ninja class and just make it sneak attack. But that is just my opinion.
Other than that, it is looking rather good.
looking over, for simplicity, I would have dropped the sudden strike from the ninja class and just make it sneak attack. But that is just my opinion.
Other than that, it is looking rather good.
Me too. The difference isn't really worth mentioning.
whats a guy gotta do to get a Pathfinder Hexblade.
CURSES! :p
LOL nice pun. The hexblade really needed an entire overhaul.
Looks like there's not much activity here in the past months, up until recently, but the classes done look great!
I've been looking for a decent Favored Soul conversion, but haven't found one. Anybody?
Looks like there's not much activity here in the past months, up until recently, but the classes done look great!
I've been looking for a decent Favored Soul conversion, but haven't found one. Anybody?
Well that's going to require retooling the class somewhat probably.
What about a good Hexblade conversion?
Looks like there's not much activity here in the past months, up until recently, but the classes done look great!
I've been looking for a decent Favored Soul conversion, but haven't found one. Anybody?
Well that's going to require retooling the class somewhat probably.
What about a good Hexblade conversion?
Isnt the oracle very similar to the Favored Soul?
Isnt the oracle very similar to the Favored Soul?Looks like there's not much activity here in the past months, up until recently, but the classes done look great!
I've been looking for a decent Favored Soul conversion, but haven't found one. Anybody?
Well that's going to require retooling the class somewhat probably.
What about a good Hexblade conversion?
Sort of, probably.
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I don't have time to look over all of this in detail right now but from what I've seen it is clear that you've put a lot of work into this and I am impressed at the quality. I have been looking for conversions like this for a while now and am very glad to have finally found them.
I was wondering what you think about the Archivist, one of my favourite classes from 3.5, does it need much of an overhaul? I've been running them in Pathfinder with no changes except the usual deal about orisons and they seem to run fine. Are you planning on finishing up the other 20 level classes at some point in the future?
Also, aimed at Dabbler, is Dreamscarred Press' work "official" as in Paizo is recognizing it or simply official in the sense that it is being published as a book? I have no problem with third party support (obviously), I am just curious.
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From the Wu Jen;
Spell Secret
At 2nd level, and every four levels thereafter, a wu jen can choose one spell known to her that then becomes permanently modified as though affected by one of the following metamagic feats: Enlarge Spell, Extend Spell, Silent Spell, and Still Spell.At 8th level, a wu jen adds Empower Spell and Widen Spell to her list of spell secret metamagic feats. At 16th level, a wu jen adds Heighten Spell, Maximize Spell, and Quicken Spell to her list of spell secret metamagic feats.
2nd level, and every 4 levels thereafter would be 2, 6, 10, 14 and 18.
The additional options at 8th and 16th level suggest that you had some other progression in mind, perhaps?
Switch those to 10th and 18th instead of 8th and 16th. Good catch.
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3) Duels between samurai were often resolved by a single blow. It came down to getting in a devastating first strike. I would suggest giving the samurai class bonus to initiative as they increase in level and a 'devastating strike' ability unique to them. This strike:
- Can only be used on the first blow in the first round of combat with any given foe.
- Can only be employed as a single attack in a round - the samurai my not full attack or make any secondary attack
- As an exception to the above, it may be used as an attack of opportunity on a foe as they move to attack the samurai for the first time.
- Can be combined with a charge, quick-draw (or iajitsu), sneak attack, sudden strike, Vital Strike, Power Attack or similar.
The devastating strike will give a bonus to hit and damage and a penalty to armour class (the first lesson and the last in kenjitsu schools was apparently a stroke called 'cut as you are cut'). I would suggest +1 to hit, +1d10 damage and -1 or -2 to AC...
Sudden Strike, perhaps?
They are, but I did mine before I found that out.
Elghinn, had you given thought to tying the eldritch blast to an ability score, and adding the mod to damage? That might take out some of the suckage at higher levels...CHA would probably fit.
EDIT: You prolly wouldn't want this at lower levels...ranged touch attacks doing 1d6 + CHA might be a bit much...but later it might fit like:
Added punch (Ex): Starting at x level, the Warlock adds his Cha mod to his eldritch blast damage. This damage bonus is doubled on a sucessful critical hit.
EDIT 2: Just thought of another idea...
What about giving them the equivalent of the opposite of the Arcane Blast feat, that would allow them to convert their eldritch blast into a non-damaging spell of a level equal to half its strength. Like for instance a Warlock with a 6d6 EB can convert it to a 3rd level arcane "utility" spell...highest they'd ever get would be 5th level effects...using their Warlock level as caster level...
Copied from other warlock post...