Could a fighter with the Step Up feat use it more than once a round? I know that you only get one 5-foot step per round but what if multiple enemies movement trigger thise feat?
Example: Frank the fighter is in melee with Wally the wizard. Wally takes a 5-foot step away from Frank, Frank follows. Next turn is Minion1, who is adjacent ot Wally and Frank, He takes a 5-foot step away from Frank.
Could Frank choose to follow Minion1? Or could he not because he has already used Step Up to follow Wally this round. My knee jerk reaction is no, but I could be wrong.
As the step requires an immediate action, no. You just get one per round. Even with Combat Reflexes, you can only use Ste Up once; you just also can take attacks of opportunity that round. (The wording of Combat Reflexes gives you extra AoOs, not extra immediate actions.) You also can't use Step Up if you used a swift action on your turn this round.
As the step requires an immediate action, no. You just get one per round. Even with Combat Reflexes, you can only use Ste Up once; you just also can take attacks of opportunity that round. (The wording of Combat Reflexes gives you extra AoOs, not extra immediate actions.) You also can't use Step Up if you used a swift action on your turn this round.
D'OH! I completely glossed over the immediate action part!
Thanks!
You actually can use an immediate action if it isn't your turn even if you already used a swift action on your turn already.
effectively it counts as your swift actions for your upcoming turn in that case. still only one swift / immediate action per round in all other cases though.
Well, that sort of depends on your DM and how rounds are determined. Me and mine figure a round starts when the person with the highest initiative acts and ends when the person with the lowest initiative is finished acting. This makes things slightly easier. I can see, however, how defining each individual character's rounds based on their own initiative counts and actions would allow for your interpretation.
<< DM, I am just speaking from the basic game rules, cant account for houseruling :)
Yeah, The Rules state that using an Immediate Action counts as using your Swift Action on your NEXT turn. Or, if you use the Immediate Action during your own turn (which is a pretty rare occurrence), it counts as your Swift Action for that turn.
House rules may vary, of course.
For some reason I was thinking that using a Swift Action on your turn meant that you couldn't take an Immediate Action until after your next turn...
Also, maybe I made that up from misreading the rules. This seems to be a strong possibility, given the comments above.
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Yeah, The Rules state that using an Immediate Action counts as using your Swift Action on your NEXT turn. Or, if you use the Immediate Action during your own turn (which is a pretty rare occurrence), it counts as your Swift Action for that turn.
House rules may vary, of course.
About the only valid use I can come up with off the top of my head is to cast feather fall after you've run and jumped off a cliff.
But yeah its kinda wonky, Swift Actions reset on the END of your turn. So use of an immediate action uses your swift action on your NEXT turn. Its kinda backwards thinking...
Well, it's not too wonky if you think that your turn actually starts the instant you stop doing stuff and runs all the way through to when you stop doing stuff.
Everyone rolls initiative and everyone's turns start. Those that act before you do so and (let's assume) no one provoked an AoO from you. On your round, you have your full set of actions (swift, move, standard). You do the stuff you want and end your round. Now your actions reset. Things happen and everyone else goes. One of the monsters provokes an AoO on it's round, so you take a swipe at it. This uses your immediate/swift action. The initiative rolls back to you, with you left with a standard and move (or full-round). You move and stab someone else and end your round. Your actions reset again, giving you a swift, move and standard.
That made sense in my head, but I have no idea if that makes sense to anyone outside of it.
One of the monsters provokes an AoO on it's round, so you take a swipe at it. This uses your immediate/swift action.No it doesn't. Attacks of Opportunity have nothing to do with your action economy, they are entirely separate.
You can take an attack of opportunity and an immediate action in the same round.
Curses! I could have sworn that AoOs were immediate actions! Gah. I quit. I just lose today. I am going to quit while I am barely behind.
For those keeping score at home, please change the above scenario wherein an attack of opportunity was used to the following:
"The roc you were righting picks you up and drops you from a height of forty feet. Luckily, you had prepared feather fall this morning and cast is as you fell, so as to avoid taking damage. This uses your immediate action."
Now please ignore me as I go hide in the corner and attempt to cover my shame.