Whatever. If you had my godlike understanding of game balance, you would realize that the beholder is the only limit on the powers of the fishmonger. Below is the math, but run it yourself if you don't believe me:
Average damage of the beholder: 3,456.2
Average damage of the fishmonger: 23.45
Flight speed of a sparrow: 34.2 k/hr
Weight of a witch: less than woodAs you can see, the beholder is absolutely necessary for the game to be balanced. Without the beholder, or an equivalent monster, PFRPG is completely unbalanced, ruined, and causes widespread suffering and chlamydia.
Point.
@David: This is true.
Now everyone just wants to talk all the time.
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Remember the good old days, when adventures were underground, NPCs were there to be killed, and the finale of every dungeon was the dragon on the 20th level? Now everyone just wants to talk all the time.
Man you're right. Cancel my subscriptions, I'm gonna go play WoW.
Remember the good old days, when adventures were underground, NPCs were there to be killed, and the finale of every dungeon was the dragon on the 20th level? Now everyone just wants to talk all the time.Man you're right. Cancel my subscriptions, I'm gonna go play WoW.
Point.
I hope that's an eye-ray power!causes widespread suffering and chlamydia.That's a pretty nasty eye-ray power, I gotta say.
It's a third-eye-ray power.
Why aren't warforged OGL content damn it!
Oh c'mon warforged. Ok then just call them golems. I actually like the ebberon setting but have never been a fan of the warforged.
The big thing I miss as far as OGC is the great wheel cosmology being protected content. Thats just my 2 copper worth.
Whatever. If you had my godlike understanding of game balance, you would realize that the beholder is the only limit on the powers of the fishmonger. Below is the math, but run it yourself if you don't believe me:
Average damage of the beholder: 3,456.2
Average damage of the fishmonger: 23.45
Flight speed of a sparrow: 34.2 k/hr
Weight of a witch: less than woodAs you can see, the beholder is absolutely necessary for the game to be balanced. Without the beholder, or an equivalent monster, PFRPG is completely unbalanced, ruined, and causes widespread suffering and chlamydia.
Did somebody say fish?
Well then, since you are so well versed, you understand that the extreme, aqua-wonder powers of the gish fish blows the beholder out of the water!
<splash>
Respect my massive splash!
I call them Brass-men myself and have them as a PC race.
Is your game set in Golarian? If so, what is their origin?
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Why aren't warforged OGL content damn it!Oh c'mon warforged. Ok then just call them golems. I actually like the ebberon setting but have never been a fan of the warforged.
The big thing I miss as far as OGC is the great wheel cosmology being protected content. Thats just my 2 copper worth.
I rather like the ironborn from Book of Iron Might and, most recently, Ironborn of Questhaven . I still haven't purchased the Ironborn of Questhaven but I hear it is a rather faithful recreation. That is a good thing in my mind.
I do agree with the great wheel cosmology. I always liked it.
But I also enjoy Monte Cook's Beyond Countless Doorways as well. A bit more pulpy if a good deal less like the great wheel.
And let it be said, I do not take this thread seriously!
I think all people need is a bit of syrup to make them feel better. How about it?
I have adjusted my game to be so. No one knows what thier origins are. They seem to come from many lands.I call them Brass-men myself and have them as a PC race.Is your game set in Golarian? If so, what is their origin?
Oh, okay. I always liked the warforged and was curious about how people integrated them into Golarion. I remember someone mentioning Numeria as a possible origin. Don't remember who though..
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Oh, okay. I always liked the warforged and was curious about how people integrated them into Golarion. I remember someone mentioning Numeria as a possible origin. Don't remember who though..I have adjusted my game to be so. No one knows what thier origins are. They seem to come from many lands.I call them Brass-men myself and have them as a PC race.Is your game set in Golarian? If so, what is their origin?
I tend to say they come somewhere from Casmaron and many of them filter through from Qadira as wanderers and explorers.
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I think all people need is a bit of syrup to make them feel better. How about it?When it is no longer a subtle racist slur sure.
How so?
Are you thinking of Aunt Jemima and not Mrs. Butterworth's?
I find I have issue with Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben's. But I am uncertain how an old, white women made into a syrup bottle is racist. Maybe a slur against the elderly. Perhaps a slur against kind grandmothers. Yeah, those are the worst.
By the way, I truly find it amusing that I just got accused of making a subtle racist slur. Seriously.
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I think all people need is a bit of syrup to make them feel better. How about it?When it is no longer a subtle racist slur sure.How so?
Are you thinking of Aunt Jemima and not Mrs. Butterworth's?
I find I have issue with Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben's. But I am uncertain how an old, white women made into a syrup bottle is racist. Maybe a slur against the elderly. Perhaps a slur against kind grandmothers. Yeah, those are the worst.
By the way, I truly find it amusing that I just got accused of making a subtle racist slur. Seriously.
And I was not trying to call you on it at all. You were just having fun. Honestly I should not have brought it up at all. Not sure why I did really. SOrry.
Beholders suck anyway.
How about a smurf instead?
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And I was not trying to call you on it at all. You were just having fun. Honestly I should not have brought it up at all. Not sure why I did really. SOrry.
Its fine. I understand you weren't trying to name me a racist, but you did mention this in relation to something I had done. Quite frankly I have no idea what you are referencing in relation to Mrs. Butterworth's. If I had inadvertently made an offensive statement I would do everything in my power to correct it. I was at a loss for how this could be construed as racist. But I will go take a look at what you referenced and finish this post with that information...
I choose not to purchase goods from either Aunt Jemima or Uncle Ben because I know the past of those representations. It makes me sick to my stomach that people from my racial background found such representations acceptable. Being Irish, Native American, and German my family has a history of discrimination. As you know, some of it was quite violent. My great grandfather suffered greatly for marrying a Native American women. For my part, I have had to deal with violent prejudice due to my sexual orientation. Which is a subject I am reluctant to bring up due to the polarizing effect it has. But I think it is important to give some context on my thoughts about the subject.
I have worked extensively with gay civil rights over the years. This has naturally brought me in contact with a lot during that time. Some of my past partners have been beautifully diverse and that places me firmly in opposition to racism, actually prejudice of all kinds, both subtle and overt. When I see/hear the words "racist", "prejudice", "bigot", etc., I take them very seriously. Those aren't throw away words for me. Using them gets my attention. Quickly. I imagine they aren't throwaway words for you either, which is why you felt led to say what you did.
But don't worry about it. I think I understand a bit more where you are coming from. And I can see why you would say something. So I honestly feel there is no reason for you to apologize. I did not realize her first incarnation was nasty as it was. That alone drives me to never use the alias again. For my part, I apologize for not knowing the past of the character. If I had, I never would have chosen it. I am just happy I hate the syrup and don't buy it. Only real maple syrup for me. :)
As a side note, the alias began life in the Afternoon Ladies Tea thread. Now I need to think of a new one that doesn't carry so much baggage.
In my mind we are "good" and on an equal understanding. So I apologize if I came at you angry. My ignorance put me at a disadvantage and it should have been one I was aware of.
Smurfs are great! But how about the dreaded Dire Smurf?
Holy smurf! That's smurfin' epic!
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I am honestly sorry I brought it up. I was once again not trying to call you out in any manner or form. My family was from the deep south. I believe, in fact that we once owned slaves. I know that we have land on which the "underground" rail road was. In point of fact my sister once took me to the tunnel which went 3 miles and that has a marker 'with my families name on it' indicating what it was once used for. It is no longer safe to travel upon. Not that the small whole was ever safe.
Just so that you know where I am coming from. Also I have been feeling poor today which is why I think I brought it up but yeah once again sorry.
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CJ:
Like I said, no reason to apologize. Though I truly appreciate the apology nonetheless. Thank you for that. I am happy you pointed out what you did about Mrs. Butterworth. That sort of thing is really important to me. So thank you.
I have a few topics I am just absolutely insane about. They turn a reasonable, sane, open minded individual into a seething ball of rage and anger. And while I did not get that way in this situation, I was a testy and condescending. I apologize deeply for that.
I strive to be a controlled person in all that I do. But there are just a few things that make me lose all judgment and I find myself opening my mouth before I realize what is happening. :)
Can we hump it out?
Rrrrrrrrghhh!! Mammals and your obsession with intercourse!!
*flies to a ledge safely out of humping range*
Can we hump it out?Unbridled leg sex fixes everything.
All you need is love.
more soda snot, thank you.
I don't even want to know what that is.
more soda snot, thank you.I don't even want to know what that is.
It's actually not bad. It just means the previous poster caught them while drinking and they laughed so hard the soda went up their nose. Very painful.
It's actually not bad. It just means the previous poster caught them while drinking and they laughed so hard the soda went up their nose. Very painful.more soda snot, thank you.I don't even want to know what that is.
I SAID I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW! :P
I SAID I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW! :PIt's actually not bad. It just means the previous poster caught them while drinking and they laughed so hard the soda went up their nose. Very painful.more soda snot, thank you.I don't even want to know what that is.
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
Soda snot
Soda snotMwahahahahaha
The Jade thinks it is a greaaat name for a punk band. :)
And so did Shiny. I think he scooped it up.
That's right.
Well you know what they say about great minds and all.
Great minds... will lead to the subjugation of personkind and then to the fiery end of the world? Word! We gonna get paid before we get slayed! <-- New word... us future oligarchs get to do that.
Seriously, the only non-OGL monster I'll miss even a little bit is the kuo-toa. The beholder may be iconic, but it is hillariously idiotically designed; the only thing that saves it from flumph-like derision is that it is so tough. And don't get me started on the various beholderkin... Githyanki and githzerai won't be missed, and the new protean are much cooler than slaads. And, finally, mind flayers are dumb. Time-travelling monsters from the future trying to extinguish the sun? Please.
I actually kinda liked those thingies. Those...what were they called? Locathahs. They were pretty much overshadowed by all the other critters, like sahuagin. I'm surprised Wizards bothered keeping them.
There are two that I really liked: Yrthaks and ravids. Especially the ravids. Those things were awesome.