Magic Eidolon Lamp


Round 2: Summoner and Witch

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Now, this may be the game mechanic min/maxer in all of us speaking, but I do see a major problem with one of the Eidolons Evolutions.

Really this is as easy as the GM saying 'no' but the rules lawyers out there will protest that it's in the bounds of the rules, so should there be a change?

Level 18 Summoner:

Just leveled, 23 Evo points:
8 points -> +8 to Charisma
10 points -> Wish 3/day

Spell like abilities don't use material components.
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Now the pathdinder prd doesn't specifically say they don't, I'm just assuming as the roots are d20.

So, is it alright for a level 18 Summoner to have a 3 wish/day pet?

Granted we are already talking about high level campaigns where a wiz/sorcerer could probably cast wish 4-5 times a day anyways, but there's a difference between wish 3/day for 75,000 gp, and doing it for free.

Perhaps limit the SLA to 'any spell with that doesn't have a GP cost over X ammount'


This has already been brought up and Jason said he'd be addressing it. (I'm not blaming you for not knowing that; there's thousands of posts in this forum. Just saying it's being looked at)

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Zurai wrote:
This has already been brought up and Jason said he'd be addressing it. (I'm not blaming you for not knowing that; there's thousands of posts in this forum. Just saying it's being looked at)

Cool thanks, I tried looking through as many posts i could, didn't see it earlier. thanks.


Aestolia wrote:

Now, this may be the game mechanic min/maxer in all of us speaking, but I do see a major problem with one of the Eidolons Evolutions.

Really this is as easy as the GM saying 'no' but the rules lawyers out there will protest that it's in the bounds of the rules, so should there be a change?

Level 18 Summoner:

Just leveled, 23 Evo points:
8 points -> +8 to Charisma
10 points -> Wish 3/day

Spell like abilities don't use material components.
d20srd
Pathfinder PRD

Now the pathdinder prd doesn't specifically say they don't, I'm just assuming as the roots are d20.

So, is it alright for a level 18 Summoner to have a 3 wish/day pet?

Granted we are already talking about high level campaigns where a wiz/sorcerer could probably cast wish 4-5 times a day anyways, but there's a difference between wish 3/day for 75,000 gp, and doing it for free.

Perhaps limit the SLA to 'any spell with that doesn't have a GP cost over X ammount'

I think that would be a good call. Nice job pointing it out.


Aww, but I like my Lucky Snake!

Edit: Maybe just charge an extra point or two for expensive material components?

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