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I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but I've seen a few creatures that have the stunning critical feat without having the staggering critical prereq... is that intentional?
For examples, please see ancient red dragon (and implicitly, its older bretheren) or shoggoth.
Thanks!
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I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but I've seen a few creatures that have the stunning critical feat without having the staggering critical prereq... is that intentional?
For examples, please see ancient red dragon (and implicitly, its older bretheren) or shoggoth.
Thanks!
Add Tarrasque to that list
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I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but I've seen a few creatures that have the stunning critical feat without having the staggering critical prereq... is that intentional?
For examples, please see ancient red dragon (and implicitly, its older bretheren) or shoggoth.
Thanks!
It's not intentional, but it's hardly game breaking. If you want to actually make them follow the rules, switch the feats to staggering critical or swap out a lesser feat for staggering critical.
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Rat Swarm lists Balance as a skill, I assume this should be Acrobatics. I don't see this mentioned in the Errata.
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Page 283 and 285, the artists name Tyler Walpole is misspelled as Tyler Wapole.
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Page 283 and 285, the artists name Tyler Walpole is misspelled as Tyler Wapole.
Page 239, illustrator name Adam Vehige is misspelled as Adan Vehinge.
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Skill Calculation Errors:
Page 168
Griffon
Listed Skills: Acrobatics +10, Fly +5, Perception +12
Calculation Errors: Fly and Perception are both +1 too high
This 5 HD large magical beast (2 + Int / HD skill points) has an Int of 5, so it gets 5 skill points.
Calculations should be as follows:
Acrobatics +10 (1 rank, +3 class skill, +2 Dex (15), +4 racial modifier)
Fly +4 (1 rank, +3 class skill, +2 Dex (15), -2 size)
Perception +11 (3 ranks, +3 class skill, +1 Wis (13), +4 racial modifier)
Skill Calculation Errors:
Page 168
Griffon
Listed Skills: Acrobatics +10, Fly +5, Perception +12
Calculation Errors: Fly and Perception are both +1 too high
This 5 HD large magical beast (2 + Int / HD skill points) has an Int of 5, so it gets 5 skill points.
Calculations should be as follows:
Acrobatics +10 (1 rank, +3 class skill, +2 Dex (15), +4 racial modifier)
Fly +4 (1 rank, +3 class skill, +2 Dex (15), -2 size)
Perception +11 (3 ranks, +3 class skill, +1 Wis (13), +4 racial modifier)
The version in Bestiary 2nd printing is correct (Acro +10, Fly +6, Perc +12; Acro 1 rank, Fly 3 ranks, Perception 1 rank). You forgot to account for the +3 from Skill Focus (Perception).
The version in Bestiary 2nd printing is correct (Acro +10, Fly +6, Perc +12; Acro 1 rank, Fly 3 ranks, Perception 1 rank). You forgot to account for the +3 from Skill Focus (Perception).
Okay, thanks, I haven't been following the Bestiary quite as closely and didn't review the errata. (Plus I guess my input is sort of diminished when trying to point out a calculation error, I make one of my own such as not including Skill Focus). I'll try to be more accurate so I don't needlessly waste your time.
Calculations should be as follows:
Perception +10 (5 rank, +3 class skill, +0 Dex (11), +2 racial modifier)
Swim +6 (0 rank, +3 class skill, +3 Str (17))
Monsters with a swim speed get a +8 racial bonus on Swim checks. So the breakdown is +3 Str, +8 racial = +11.
Possible Skill Calculation Errors:
Page 237
Roper
Listed Skills: Climb +27, Knowledge (dungeoneering) +16, Knowledge
(religion) +13, Perception +24, Stealth +18 (+26 in stony or icy
areas); Racial Modifiers +8 Stealth in stony or icy areasCalculation Error: I seem to run out of ranks by the time I get to Stealth and the ranks are too high for Perception & Stealth, over 12 and there are only 12 HD.
12 HD aberration (4 + Int / HD skill points) has an Int of 13 (+1), 60 skill points
Calculations as follows:
Climb +27 (12 rank, +3 class skill, +12 Str(34))
Knowledge (dungeoneering) +16 (12 rank, +3 class skill, +1 Int (13))
Knowledge (religion) +13 (12 rank, , +1 Int (13))
Perception +24 (15 rank, +3 class skill, +3 Wis(16), +3 Skill Focus)
Stealth +18 (15 rank, +3 class skill, +1 Dex(13), +3 Skill Focus, -4 Size(Large))
Skill Focus gives +6 to a skill which has 10 o more skill ranks invested in.
"Benefit: You get a +3 bonus on all checks involving the chosen skill. If you have 10 or more ranks in that skill, this bonus increases to +6."
In this case, with 12 ranks in both Perception and Stealth, the bonus granted by Skill Focus become +6, so the calculations are correct.
Perception: 12 ranks, +3 class skill, +3 Wis, +6 Skill Focus = +24
Stealth: 12 ranks, +3 class skill, +1 Dex, +6 Skill Focus, -4 Size = +18 (or +26 in stony or icy areas).
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Couatl p. 49, skill point issues
By my math Use Magic Device has 15 ranks, but the Couatl only has 12 HD and I've got 3 skill points unused
skill points = 108
used = 105Acrobatics +18 = +12 ranks, +3 Dex, +3 class skill
Bluff +9 = +3 ranks, +3 Cha, +3 class skill
Diplomacy +18 = +12 ranks, +3 Cha, +3 class skill
Fly +20 = +12 ranks, +3 Dex, +3 class skill, +2 extra mods
Knowledge (arcana) +9 = +3 ranks, +3 Int, +3 class skill
Knowledge (religion) +12 = +6 ranks, +3 Int, +3 class skill
Perception +23 = +12 ranks, +4 Wis, +3 class skill, +4 extra mods
Sense Motive +15 = +6 ranks, +4 Wis, +3 class skill, +2 extra mods
Spellcraft +15 = +12 ranks, +3 Int
Survival +16 = +12 ranks, +4 Wis
Use Magic Device +18 = +15 ranks, +3 Cha
UMD is a class skill in his case, likely. From the Outsider type description: Due to their varied nature, outsiders also receive 4 additional class skills determined by the creature's theme.
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Centipede Swarm p. 43, Climb skill points don't add up
SB says Climb +12
having a climb speed only gives you +8, it doesn't make it an automatic class skill
skill points = 0 vermin
Climb +3 = +0 ranks, -5 Str, +8 extra mods
Perception +4 = +0 ranks, +0 Wis, +4 extra mods
Don't smaller creatures with a climb speed get to use their Dex instead of Str for climb skill?
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It seems more and more that Tiny and smaller creatures use Dex instead of Str on Climb but I can't find that rule any where.
I think that the rule is in 3/3.5 and got accidentially snipped in the conversion to Pathfinder, but is still in effect and being used.
Some monsters explicitly say in the Racial modifiers for skills:
"Racial Modifiers uses Dex to modify Climb and Swim"
but I am still searching to see if/where it is explicitly a feature of tiny and smaller creatures. It appears to be common among swarms and rodents at least.
The Familiar page says:
"Small animals like these use Dexterity to modify Climb and Swim checks."
but if you ask me the phrase "small animals like these" is overly vague lol
The phrase "Small animals like these use Dexterity to modify Climb and Swim checks" seems to exist ONLY in the description for Familiars.
The phrase "Racial Modifiers uses Dex to modify Climb and Swim" occurs only on the pages:
- dire rat
- rat swarm
- dire rat animal companion stat blocks
So if the rule is an accepted feature of tiny or smaller creatures, its exceptionally well-hidden. Either that or my search-fu sucks lol