The Mayans say no.
Shadowrun says yes (at least the end of the Fifth Age).
I knew someone would bring that up. But will the world that is left look more like Shadowrun, or Rifts?
Shadowrun, hopefully. I'll know what to expect. If it's Rifts, I'm in trouble 'cause I've got no Rifts sourcebooks.
Hmmm... I need to get cracking if I'm gonna come up with a good scam on gullible people. Would Y2012 work?
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I knew someone would bring that up. But will the world that is left look more like Shadowrun, or Rifts?Shadowrun, hopefully. I'll know what to expect. If it's Rifts, I'm in trouble 'cause I've got no Rifts sourcebooks.
I'm ashamed of you. :) How can any gamer not have at least one unused Rifts sourcebook? It's a rite of passage around here to buy Rifts and then never play it.
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The Mayans say no.
I hope so. This whole "Work hard, barely scrape by, occasionally game" is starting to suck.
I'm ashamed of you. :) How can any gamer not have at least one unused Rifts sourcebook? It's a rite of passage around here to buy Rifts and then never play it.
Limited funds and time, plus no Rifts players in my area. I was busy with D&D, Werewolf, and Shadowrun. And I just picked up PF this year, and Eclipse Phase last month.
I think I need to join Gamer's Anonymous.
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Hmmm... I need to get cracking if I'm gonna come up with a good scam on gullible people. Would Y2012 work?
Make a shirt design--you wouldn't believe how much money I make off this stuff.
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Gods above, I never beleived that anyway! I saw a pattern in the rumor I heard regarding doomsday. One said 2000, the next said 2006, and then there is the one saying 2012 will be the end of the world. So, if the pattern holds, the next 'end of the world' should be 2018.
Or 2024 if it doubles every time.
Is 2012 The End?
Lord I hope so. I am tired of constantly hearing how near the end is.
I'm ashamed of you. :) How can any gamer not have at least one unused Rifts sourcebook? It's a rite of passage around here to buy Rifts and then never play it.
Hey! I'll have you know I played Rifts...three times...with three different groups of players. Dammit, it should be good. How can a game have this cool of a setting and not be good?!
Is 2012 The End?Lord I hope so. I am tired of constantly hearing how near the end is.
~You all hear the sound of a shotgun being loaded *CLICK, CLICK*~ I can arrange for you to be put out of your misery, poodle boi!
Lord I hope so. I am tired of constantly hearing how near the end is.
There's a fairly sizable branch of the Moonies in Hawaii. In the years before I left, they kept predicting dates that the world would end and littered the place with pamphlets and occasionally graffiti of the seemingly arbitrary dates that the apocalypse would happen on. The day would come and go. Then a year or two later it would happen all over again.
I always wanted to run into one of them handing out pamphlets just so I could say "I noticed your armageddon didn't work out last time; better luck with this one."
I suppose the point behind this anecdote is that I'm fairly numb to predictions of the end times at this point.
2012 can't be the end of the world, because it already ended in 1844, though not as flashily as hoped. And 100 and 1000 and 1872 and 1914 and 1925 and 1975 and 2000 and you can also pick any off the menu. It's always the end of the world as we know it. Pretty tough place, the world, to have survived so many ends.
Pick your favorite psychic and you too can enjoy the same thrilling accuracy as blind guessing. Or you can play the home game.
Why would anyone follow a Mayan prophecy? They sure as shinola didn't see their own end too clearly, so saying the world is going to end, for the fifth time, holds about as much relevance to me as the results of whatever that show with that drunk singer is.
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I'm ashamed of you. :) How can any gamer not have at least one unused Rifts sourcebook? It's a rite of passage around here to buy Rifts and then never play it.Hey! I'll have you know I played Rifts...three times...with three different groups of players. Dammit, it should be good. How can a game have this cool of a setting and not be good?!
I've played Rifts several times as well, each time with a diferent group of players.. Every time I played it lasted exctly three game sessions. The system sucks, but certain people will not admit it. I wish that they would make a d20 version, or the long ago announced and never materalized GURPS vesion.
The funny thing is, the system works okay in the FRP setting, and TMNT, Heroes Unlimited, etc. Once they factored in the whole mega-damage rules, it all went downhill.
I could definitely see using a d20 system for it though. Heck, the best way my group found to play Shadowrun was to use the Cyberpunk mechanics for it...speaking of broken systems.
Using that to segue closer to back on topic: How did Shadowrun handle the whole 2012 prophecy? I stopped playing a while back, so I never did get into the later editions and expanded supplements.
The Mayans say no.
It would really depend on who wins the U.S. election that year?
Using that to segue closer to back on topic: How did Shadowrun handle the whole 2012 prophecy? I stopped playing a while back, so I never did get into the later editions and expanded supplements.
The return of fantasy elements to the world was tied up in the 2012 business. There was also a major plague the year previous.
If it's Palin, all bets are off.
[QUOTE/] I always wanted to run into one of them handing out pamphlets just so I could say "I noticed your armageddon didn't work out last time; better luck with this one."
I suppose the point behind this anecdote is that I'm fairly numb to predictions of the end times at this point.
If they keep doing it; they are bound to get it right someday. Unfortunately if they finally get lucky enough to pick the right day, there won't be anyone to brag about it to;)
The return of fantasy elements to the world was tied up in the 2012 business. There was also a major plague the year previous.
Oooh. *slaps forehead* That's right. Magic ebbs and flows in the Shadowrun world. So 2012 would have been the start...spells start working again, babies get born with pointed ears, or tusks, or horns...etc, etc.
Unfortunately if they finally get lucky enough to pick the right day, there won't be anyone to brag about it to;)
True, but there won't be anyone handing out I-told-you-sos either.
According to the numbers left in the time capsule by Lucinda Embry, the world will end on October 19, 2009...6 days to go!
Oh! And the world ended for the Knights Templars 702 years ago today...
Yeah, poor gits got totally shafted by the high guild and the artificers...while purging superstitionists from the order of reason may have been a good thing, it was never quiet the same once the money men got into the driving seat.
Am I the only one who finds doomsday predictions outrageously arrogant? Why would that happen in our lifetime, and not the millions of lifetimes past or future?
Your not alone at all.
Yeah, poor gits got totally shafted by the high guild and the artificers...while purging superstitionists from the order of reason may have been a good thing, it was never quiet the same once the money men got into the driving seat.According to the numbers left in the time capsule by Lucinda Embry, the world will end on October 19, 2009...6 days to go!
Oh! And the world ended for the Knights Templars 702 years ago today...
Really? Not the Bureaucrats?
Am I the only one who finds doomsday predictions outrageously arrogant? Why would that happen in our lifetime, and not the millions of lifetimes past or future?
True. But some people hope that the end is near. (It might just be the only way the U.S. ever gets out of debt.)
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Gods above, I never beleived that anyway! I saw a pattern in the rumor I heard regarding doomsday. One said 2000, the next said 2006, and then there is the one saying 2012 will be the end of the world. So, if the pattern holds, the next 'end of the world' should be 2018.
Don't forget the old favorite 88 reasons Jesus will come in 1988.
2012 can't be the end of the world, because it already ended in 1844, though not as flashily as hoped. And 100 and 1000 and 1872 and 1914 and 1925 and 1975 and 2000 and you can also pick any off the menu. It's always the end of the world as we know it. Pretty tough place, the world, to have survived so many ends.
Pick your favorite psychic and you too can enjoy the same thrilling accuracy as blind guessing. Or you can play the home game.
But...but...but MY predicted end of the world date WILL be correct!
The world will end when the sun expands and supernovas on October 13, 5000002009.
...and people doing really stupid things just before hand.
Do not fear. People will continue to do really stupid things without any impending doom.
I knew someone would bring that up. But will the world that is left look more like Shadowrun, or Rifts?Shadowrun, hopefully. I'll know what to expect. If it's Rifts, I'm in trouble 'cause I've got no Rifts sourcebooks.
Hmmm... I need to get cracking if I'm gonna come up with a good scam on gullible people. Would Y2012 work?
I can help with that. Find yourself a big guy like ya know 6ft + and make sure he's got some muscle on him then add some horns and a little green theatrical make up. Ta Da instat Troll. The line is "goblinization is at hand" mind you if you have an heroin chich skinny female friends that weigh like next to nothing then you can slap some spock ears on them and again use the "goblinization" line and the money will start pouring in.
You can then start selling "magic" amulets to protect against the looking doomsday threat. Throw in a "rumor" of government run relocation centers and the money will really start happening.Good luck, gulible people need to be taken advantage of and it might as well be you that educates them about lifes harsh realities. Thank You for your service ambrosia.
I've played Rifts several times as well, each time with a diferent group of players.. Every time I played it lasted exctly three game sessions. The system sucks, but certain people will not admit it. I wish that they would make a d20 version, or the long ago announced and never materalized GURPS vesion.
In my opinion, that's the big reason they're so over-zealous about defending their IP; it's all they have of value. The system itself is worthless.
Gods above, I never beleived that anyway! I saw a pattern in the rumor I heard regarding doomsday. One said 2000, the next said 2006, and then there is the one saying 2012 will be the end of the world. So, if the pattern holds, the next 'end of the world' should be 2018.Or 2024 if it doubles every time.
Well they say social security will be bankrupt by 2020. Maybe we'll get four years off for good behavior. :)
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't put a lot of faith in a prediction by a culture that was mostly destroyed a few centuries ago. Seems to me that if your prophets were up to snuff, you'd have a big f!%~ing circle around, say, the year 1517, and a note in all capital letters saying "WHITE DUDES WILL COME FROM OVER THE SEA AND WIPE US THE F##@ OUT."
Am I the only one who finds doomsday predictions outrageously arrogant? Why would that happen in our lifetime, and not the millions of lifetimes past or future?
It would be difficult to find a superstition that wasn't somehow desperately self-important. Ever notice how the psychics who talk to dead people always inform us that the dead people are obsessed with the empty trivia of our personal lives? (Which they can also never quite seem to remember without playing 20 questions.) Or how somehow it's always H. sapiens instead of beetles that are the center of the ultimate struggle between good and evil? If the beetles had beetle gods, they'd have made the world for the beetles too.
In the case of apocalypticism it's both self-important (The world will end in our generation! Ours!) and incredibly useful for certain businessmen because people who are done wrong by them are less likely to care when it's all going to end soon anyway and easier to control when frightened.
But...but...but MY predicted end of the world date WILL be correct!
The world will end when the sun expands and supernovas on October 13, 5000002009.
Two days before my birthday. The sun is trying to help me never grow old! All I have to do is survive for the next few billion years and I'll be set!
