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Sovereign Court

I'm not sure how I feel about this....

I really wonder about the movies, will the current projects maintain their continuity and story flow or will Disney decide to "rework" that? Also, what happens with all the characters that Sony or other movie companies own?

And what about the Islands of Adventure theme park in Florida? Would Disney allow someone around the corner to be using their characters?

The Exchange

I know how I feel, and it's not warm and fuzzy...

Dark Archive

can't wait for the "It's a Small Marvel Universe Ride." It would have Wolverine in every scene.


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Maybe they'll fire Joe Quesada. That would work for me...

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Singing Wolverine:
Wahoo wahoo
I'm the best as what I do!
It's cutting punks
into tiny chunks.
Wahoo wahoo wahoo.

Or the long awaited Howard the Duck/Donald Duck crossover.

Squirel girl meets Chip and Dale?

Doctor Strange takes Mickey on as his apprentice?

Mojo starts to look more like Wil Eisner?

Silver Crusade

I can see it from a business point of view. Marvel is getting a lot of cash, a huge studio to help them promote their movies and projects and tons of resources. I just hope Disney doesn't go all Comics Code on them and dumb down their comics. Although, since Joe Quesada has ran Marvel their comics can't get much worse. I use to be a major Marvel fanboy, but since he started running Marvel the company has turned into a joke story wise. It's all about their movie/tv stuff and flashy art. Good storytelling has gone the way of the dinosaur at Marvel.

The Exchange

Danubus wrote:
I just hope Disney doesn't go all Comics Code on them and dumb down their comics.

That's my biggest concern. Today's comics tend to be violent, bloody and sexual. I hope Disney doesn't get all heavy handed with the 'family friendly' beat-stick.


Jam412 wrote:
Maybe they'll fire Joe Quesada. That would work for me...
Danubus wrote:
Although, since Joe Quesada has ran Marvel their comics can't get much worse. I use to be a major Marvel fanboy, but since he started running Marvel the company has turned into a joke story wise. It's all about their movie/tv stuff and flashy art. Good storytelling has gone the way of the dinosaur at Marvel.

I'm glad I'm not the only person that feels this way....

Sovereign Court

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Dark Archive Owner - Johnny Scott Comics and Games

Worst news ever (to me). Disney has no clue how to publish comics, but probably is too arrogant to admit it. I'm afraid they will stick their hands into the mix and slowly ruin the Marvel characters (even more than Quesada has managed to do) in the name of marketing.

It won't be long until we see a Power Pack/Toy Story crossover event and, even more frightening, "Wolverine on Ice"...


Larry Lichman wrote:
"Wolverine on Ice"...

If you'll excuse me, I need to go open my wrists with a sharp object.


Until Spider-Man joins the cast of Highschool Musical,

Make mine... Disney?

Yeah, I'm not feeling particularly excited about that bit of news either, but if my favorite titles gets changed to something I can't stomach anymore, I'll just stop buying them.
On a more positive note, if that happens my comics money will go toward Paizo and gaming related stuff.

Dark Archive

On the other hand, it is now easy to explain that Peter Pan is a flying mutant with a supercharged healing factor.

Spoiler:
That's why he never ages. :)


Just out of curiosity, how often to you suppose Warner Bros. executives directly get involved in the day to day business of DC Comics? I mean, I'm sure there is the occasional "this character needs to appear in the comic because he's in upcoming move X," but as far as actual, day to day involvement?

On the other hand, I feel guilty that my first thought was that perhaps Joe Quesada will be moving on (though I have no reason, other than new owners, to think that).

Liberty's Edge

Disney knows what they're doing.
Imagine Marvel stuff animated up to Disney's technical skill level.
Sweeeeeeeet.
If this makes that even possible, then I'm all about it.

Plus, they did Night on Bald Mountain in like the 30's. They're not gonna wussify Marvel.

Sovereign Court

This move reminded me of just how much of our culture is owned lock, stock and barrel by massive megacorporations who speak of exploiting it. And that will probably never change in our lifetime. I'm confident that when I'm 90 and on my death bed, Disney will still own the copyright to good old Mickey Mouse.

Oh well. I doubt Disney would interfere in the day to day running of Marvel. Wouldn't make any sense. Marvel might even benefit from Disney's distribution channels.

Sovereign Court

Uzzy wrote:

This move reminded me of just how much of our culture is owned lock, stock and barrel by massive megacorporations who speak of exploiting it. And that will probably never change in our lifetime. I'm confident that when I'm 90 and on my death bed, Disney will still own the copyright to good old Mickey Mouse.

Disney exploits Mickey Mouse...?

Sovereign Court

Nah, Mickey Mouse owes Disney. He needs money and power in order to prevent him going on a rampage then heading to slumber in Valhalla.

By exploit, I mean exploit the intellectual property for all it's worth, packaging it into nice little consumable chunks then have everyone come back for more.

Liberty's Edge

Uzzy wrote:

This move reminded me of just how much of our culture is owned lock, stock and barrel by massive megacorporations who speak of exploiting it. And that will probably never change in our lifetime. I'm confident that when I'm 90 and on my death bed, Disney will still own the copyright to good old Mickey Mouse.

Oh well. I doubt Disney would interfere in the day to day running of Marvel. Wouldn't make any sense. Marvel might even benefit from Disney's distribution channels.

Yeah, but then you got Image Comics, and the creation of the "rock star comic artist."

Granted, D.C. bought a few of their properties, but it's not like pop culture comes grinding to a halt under the oppressive scourgings of Mickey and Donald.


Disney owns other brands and doesn't wussify them. In fact, Disney publishes some of its more...interesting?...works under the Burna Vista title. This allows them to do other projects that aren't so family friendly and still keep the Disney name associated with cartoon characters that aid villians in plunging to their deaths rather than outright slaying them. Disney also owns the Pixar name, as I'm sure you all know.

As for your friendly neighbourhood Spider-man, I would expect to see him on the Disney Channel, however, since this does clearly operate under the Disney name, he may be taken down a shade. When "Gargoyles", a Burna Vista project, aired on the Disney Channel the episode where Broadway accidently shoots Eliza the cop with her service gun (pretending to play cops and robbers) was removed from the line-up. Apparently it was something that Disney did not believe was appropriate to air, even though it showed the dangers of guns to children. (Eliza was removed from the show for 1/2 a season, but made a full recovery.) For level of violence, I would expect 7+, which is a Canadian rating that suggests the show is appropriate for the average 7 year old. Disney will probably commission a new show for Disney Channel to allow them to tailor Marvel heros' action scenes to what they deem appropriate.

There will likey be action; "BAM!!!" and "POW!!!" just don't cut it with today's audiences.

Dark Archive

They have actually been running Spectacular Spider-Man and X-Men Evolution on Disney XD for some time now. In fact the sudden apperance of a slew of Marvel shows on Disney XD, the aforementioned plus Spider-Man Unlimited, Avengers, and X-mMen, should have been a tipp off that there was a deal in the works.


Now we'll have to look forward to Marvel characters showing up in future Square Enix/Disney collaberation Kingdom Hearts, greeeeeat...

Dark Archive

DragonMunchie wrote:
Now we'll have to look forward to Marvel characters showing up in future Square Enix/Disney collaberation Kingdom Hearts, greeeeeat...

I can't wat to have Wolverine and Donald Duck in the same party.

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Actually, given the "artistic" (I use the word loosely) direction of Marvel Comics in the last few years ...

Anything that Disney could do would only be an improvement.

Dark Archive

Uzzy wrote:

This move reminded me of just how much of our culture is owned lock, stock and barrel by massive megacorporations who speak of exploiting it. And that will probably never change in our lifetime. I'm confident that when I'm 90 and on my death bed, Disney will still own the copyright to good old Mickey Mouse.

...By exploit, I mean exploit the intellectual property for all it's worth, packaging it into nice little consumable chunks then have everyone come back for more.

I had never pegged you as an infosocialist Uzzy.


David Fryer wrote:
DragonMunchie wrote:
Now we'll have to look forward to Marvel characters showing up in future Square Enix/Disney collaberation Kingdom Hearts, greeeeeat...
I can't wat to have Wolverine and Donald Duck in the same party.

Next thing you know Wolverine has a fist full of retractable Keyblades and Captain America has one as well.

Dark Archive

DragonMunchie wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
DragonMunchie wrote:
Now we'll have to look forward to Marvel characters showing up in future Square Enix/Disney collaberation Kingdom Hearts, greeeeeat...
I can't wat to have Wolverine and Donald Duck in the same party.
Next thing you know Wolverine has a fist full of retractable Keyblades and Captain America has one as well.

I'd rather play Deadpool. Maybe Shatterstar could have a double keyblade.

Sovereign Court

David Fryer wrote:
Uzzy wrote:

This move reminded me of just how much of our culture is owned lock, stock and barrel by massive megacorporations who speak of exploiting it. And that will probably never change in our lifetime. I'm confident that when I'm 90 and on my death bed, Disney will still own the copyright to good old Mickey Mouse.

...By exploit, I mean exploit the intellectual property for all it's worth, packaging it into nice little consumable chunks then have everyone come back for more.

I had never pegged you as an infosocialist Uzzy.

I aim to surprise!

What can I say? I find the copyright laws as they currently exist to be ridiculous and anti-consumer, especially as we move towards an Information Society. Life + 70 years is insanely long, especially given that, as I said, so many of these ip's protected under it have become massive parts of our culture.

Still, that's another discussion for another thread.


Uzzy wrote:

What can I say? I find the copyright laws as they currently exist to be ridiculous and anti-consumer, especially as we move towards an Information Society. Life + 70 years is insanely long,

Particularly when the advances in medical and geriatric sciences are pushing us toward a theoretical 1000 year life span.

Sovereign Court

Uzzy wrote:
By exploit, I mean exploit the intellectual property for all it's worth, packaging it into nice little consumable chunks then have everyone come back for more.

I think Disney cornered the market on that...

Sovereign Court

And lo and behold, Fox is already planning a revamp of the Fantastic Four franchise as they have to keep making movies to retain the rights otherwise they will relapse back to Marvel, now Disney.

Liberty's Edge

Callous Jack wrote:
Uzzy wrote:
By exploit, I mean exploit the intellectual property for all it's worth, packaging it into nice little consumable chunks then have everyone come back for more.
I think Disney cornered the market on that...

Like.....Pinocchio, or Cinderella, or Robin Hood, or a gazillion other properties that have been public domain forever?

You can make your own Robin Hood comic, any time you want.
Just don't make him a furry fox man....fighting rhinoceros guardsmen.
Disney won't stop you.

Dark Archive

Callous Jack wrote:
And lo and behold, Fox is already planning a revamp of the Fantastic Four franchise as they have to keep making movies to retain the rights otherwise they will relapse back to Marvel, now Disney.

I had read somewhere that they were putting a stop to Fantastic Four movies because Rise of the Silver Surfer was such a flop, but that they were going to still make the Silver Surfer solo movie. Guess they don't want to have another Watchmen scenario happen.

Sovereign Court

I heard Daredevil and FF were going to revert back to Marvel because the studios lost interest but within the last 6-12 months that changed. I wonder why...

Sovereign Court

Heathansson wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
Uzzy wrote:
By exploit, I mean exploit the intellectual property for all it's worth, packaging it into nice little consumable chunks then have everyone come back for more.
I think Disney cornered the market on that...

Like.....Pinocchio, or Cinderella, or Robin Hood, or a gazillion other properties that have been public domain forever?

You can make your own Robin Hood comic, any time you want.
Just don't make him a furry fox man....fighting rhinoceros guardsmen.
Disney won't stop you.

I personally have no problem with the copyright protections but I do get sick of all the catalogs and "bargains" that get sent in the mail to my Disney fanatic wife.


Sucks to be a marvel fan ;)

Fortunately, this worries me not at all, as nearly every comic i have ever enjoyed has been either from DC via Vertigo, or an indie.


Abbasax wrote:
Jam412 wrote:
Maybe they'll fire Joe Quesada. That would work for me...
Danubus wrote:
Although, since Joe Quesada has ran Marvel their comics can't get much worse. I use to be a major Marvel fanboy, but since he started running Marvel the company has turned into a joke story wise. It's all about their movie/tv stuff and flashy art. Good storytelling has gone the way of the dinosaur at Marvel.
I'm glad I'm not the only person that feels this way....

Oh, man, go over to the forums for Hero games sometime. You'll find a LOT of fellow believers, like me.


How long until Hannah Montannah becomes the girlfriend of Cyclops?

Seriously, this is disgusting, monstrous and wicked. Disney is a dinosaur the world would be better without. In fact, without them, the intellectual property system could probably be revamped into something less oppressive.

Make a little thought experiment: Would Disney have published the Nightmares of Future Past storyline? The Mutant Massacre? No, think Civil War upcoming, only the non-government forces being portrayed as wrong-headed and traitorous all the time.

Well well, I am glad I don't do much Marvel these days.

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Sissyl wrote:

How long until Hannah Montannah becomes the girlfriend of Cyclops?

Seriously, this is disgusting, monstrous and wicked. Disney is a dinosaur the world would be better without. In fact, without them, the intellectual property system could probably be revamped into something less oppressive.

Make a little thought experiment: Would Disney have published the Nightmares of Future Past storyline? The Mutant Massacre? No, think Civil War upcoming, only the non-government forces being portrayed as wrong-headed and traitorous all the time.

Well well, I am glad I don't do much Marvel these days.

Well since they own Touchstone and a lot of other things I hope they won't kiddiefy it too much. (besides, was the Massacre really a Massacre now?)

Disney is only one of the legs of the IP triumverant. You also need to include RIAA and Warner Brothers as well (who own DC of course).

Dark Archive Owner - Johnny Scott Comics and Games

With any luck, they'll leave the comic publishing alone and stick to the licensing of the characters, and film production. After all, the current Disney comics (Uncle Scrooge, Donald Duck, Mickey and Friends, etc.) are actually published under license by Gemstone publishing. This seems to me to indicate a reluctance by Disney to get into the day to day operations of comic publishing.

However, this is pure speculation...

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Larry Lichman wrote:
Disney has no clue how to publish comics, but probably is too arrogant to admit it.

How is that different from Marvel? That company has long been run like s~!$.

Larry Lichman wrote:

I'm afraid they will stick their hands into the mix and slowly ruin the Marvel characters (even more than Quesada has managed to do) in the name of marketing.

Again, how is that different from the pre-Disney status quo?

Marvel is a piece of crap company that has a long and illustrious history of pimping out its characters, destroying them for product tie-ins, and generally doing their best to drive their franchises into the ground. To think that Disney (or, for that matter, a brain-damaged heroin addicted monkey) could do worse vastly inflates the capabilities and intelligence of Marvel's executives.

Liberty's Edge

Sebastian wrote:
Larry Lichman wrote:
Disney has no clue how to publish comics, but probably is too arrogant to admit it.

How is that different from Marvel? That company has long been run like s@#!.

Larry Lichman wrote:

I'm afraid they will stick their hands into the mix and slowly ruin the Marvel characters (even more than Quesada has managed to do) in the name of marketing.

Again, how is that different from the pre-Disney status quo?

Marvel is a piece of crap company that has a long and illustrious history of pimping out its characters, destroying them for product tie-ins, and generally doing their best to drive their franchises into the ground. To think that Disney (or, for that matter, a brain-damaged heroin addicted monkey) could do worse vastly inflates the capabilities and intelligence of Marvel's executives.

I've been over your statement with a fine tooth comb for hours.

It is utterly flawless, in every possible way.
Maybe there's a grammar error somewhere; I of all people wouldn't know.


I'd really hate to see Disney ruin the finely tuned continuity that Marvel achieved in the Civil War crossovers, or to stifle brilliant ideas like the Red Hulk saga, and the subsequent Red She Hulk saga.

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KnightErrantJR wrote:
I'd really hate to see Disney ruin the finely tuned continuity that Marvel achieved in the Civil War crossovers, or to stifle brilliant ideas like the Red Hulk saga, and the subsequent Red She Hulk saga.

Oh god I hope you're being sarcastic


Kevin Mack wrote:


Oh god I hope you're being sarcastic

Me am not being sarcastic at all. Fat Joey am genius.

Grand Lodge

Oh, how exciting! More complaining and griping on the internet! What's next, are we going to whine impotently about the Banks Too Big To Fail being bigger now than before the crisis? :P

Seriously guys, it's just another consolidation of businesses. It is not going to affect the status quo in any real, important manner.


Well, to be fair, I don't think its going to affect the actual comic lines, but I do think that this doesn't bode well for some of the lesser known Marvel movie properties or the Avengers movie.

Dark Archive

KnightErrantJR wrote:
Well, to be fair, I don't think its going to affect the actual comic lines, but I do think that this doesn't bode well for some of the lesser known Marvel movie properties or the Avengers movie.

Actually, I think it works out better for some of the lesser known properties. Disney is going to milk this for all they can. In fact, my guess is that since Disney is going to want to make the most money they can off of this, the biggest group of people who should be worrying are the other comic companies. My guess would be tht Disney is going to make their most talented people offers that they cannot refuse.

Sovereign Court

Over here in the UK, Disney seem to have launched a new channel that seems aimed at the young boys of the world (full of 'cool' gaming things, skateboarding and the like). Having a collection of new Marvel cartoons on such a channel would help a lot, I'd think. Maybe that's what Disney is thinking? They've long held the minds of young girls, so now it's young boys they are after?

In an economic sense, of course.

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