
hogarth |

If I have a wizard who takes a double weapon as an arcane bond, are both its ends masterwork quality?
If he takes a weapon that's also a piece of armor as an arcane bond (like a klar from the Campaign Setting), is it both a masterwork weapon and a piece of masterwork armor, or just a masterwork weapon?

DM_Blake |

If I have a wizard who takes a double weapon as an arcane bond, are both its ends masterwork quality?
If he takes a weapon that's also a piece of armor as an arcane bond (like a klar from the Campaign Setting), is it both a masterwork weapon and a piece of masterwork armor, or just a masterwork weapon?
I see it as a masterwork item, not a partially masterwork item.
Ultimately it will be up to the DM, but I can't see how it's game-breaking to allow both ends, or both functions, to have the masterwork quality. It's not like that wizard is going to lay waste to armies of kobolds with his dual-wielded masterwork double-weapon. With his BAB and combat skills, he'll be in the negatives even with the +1 bonus for masterwork.

DM_Blake |

I had a question regarding arcane bond weapons and this seemed like a good place to ask.
Is there any limit to the price of an arcane bond weapon? Could I have a mighty (+[insert ridiculously large number here]) composite longbow as my arcane bonded weapon?
I think the term "mighty" went out with 3.0. Since then, we just say "composite" and leave it at that.
As for the STR rating, sure, why not have a Composite Longbow with a STR rating of +50? Why not +100? +1,000?
Well, for starters, if you have, say, a 13 STR, your STR Mod is only +1. If your composite bow is rated at +2 STR or higher, then you automatically take a -2 penalty to hit with it, and if you do hit, you'll do 1d8+1 damage. So, you could pay for a long composite bow with a +50 rating which would cost you an extra 5,000 gp, but you would be -2 to hit and do 1d8+1 damage. So it's not a very good idea.
So to answer your actual question, strictly speaking you could choose a ridiculously high STR rating for your bonded composite longbow and be within the rules as written. But would ultimately be up to your DM. Is he willing to give you a masterwork composite longbow with a STR rating of +50 (worth 5,400 gp)? Are you willing to take that -2 penalty every time you use it? If you both think it's a good idea, then go for it.
Me, if I had a 13 STR wizard, I would settle for my composite longbow having a STR rating of +1 (500 gp including the price of masterwork) so I could use it all the time without penalties. Whatever my wizard's STR is, I would pick the bow that matches that STR.
And as a DM, I would only allow my player to select an item he was capable of wielding proficiently - I cannot envision a person forming a special, magical bond with something they cannot even use properly. Yes, I know, that's a personal ruling (houserule) that I would employ - it's certainly not written that way in the book.

Stephen Ede |
If I'd get a masterwork composite longbow with a strength rating of +1,000, I'd sell it. 50,200 gp here I come! (you could just bond with some new weapon anyways)
I'm curious how you work that price out.
Anyone who can use it without penalty and has 50,000gp can just take it. Anyone else isn't going to pay 50,000gp for it.Lets face it. If you had a fully functional M1A1 tank your chance of selling it for full price are zilch. Hell, your chance of selling it, rather than having it taken off you (and some rather pointed questions asked) is pretty minimal.
Stephen

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If I'd get a masterwork composite longbow with a strength rating of +1,000, I'd sell it. 50,200 gp here I come! (you could just bond with some new weapon anyways)
Of course, you have to find a buyer first...
Although I believe the OP was more referring to normal strength ratings. Hence the large monetary benefit of getting your expensive composite bow for free. Even at only a +1 to +4 modifier it gets a bit hard to afford for a little while starting out.

Lehmuska |

Nah, I was going for even higher strength ratings. Say 10^2938457298357 for starters. Going strictly by the RAW, I'd be able to sell that for nigh infinite amount of gold, and break the game in process. Also, even though I asked that question, I believe Hogarth to be this thread's OP. OP has therefore nothing to do with composite bows and strength ratings in this thread yet.