Aberrant Sorcerer


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I'm confused by something. The "Long Limbs" class feature for aberrant sorcerers is unclear.

Long Limbs (Ex): At 3rd level, your reach increases by 5
feet whenever you are making a melee touch attack. This
ability does not otherwise increase your threatened
area. At 11th level, this bonus to your reach increases to
10 feet. At 17th level, this bonus to your reach increases
to 15 feet.

At 3rd level isn't it the case that most of the races will already have 10' reach? Is it that at 11th level they ALSO threaten that 10' (not just touch attacks)? Is it supposed to state at 11th reach increases BY 10 feet, and at 17th increases BY 15 feet?

Please feel free to alter this message if there is a problem with posting the class feature intact, but I believe its in the reference document.


It is my understanding that most races will not have a 10ft reach at that level, however some monsters will.

It seems clear that this only applies to touch attacks, which is a half decent benefit as instead of threatening by moving up to perform these touch attacks, they can just move up and make the touch attack in most cases.

Shadow Lodge

Your reach for touch spells at 3rd level(medium and small creatures):10ft
7th:15
11th:20

That's how I see it anyway.


Look again. It says 'this BONUS to your reach increases to 10 feet.'

The bonus being the amount added to your normal reach.


Characters can normally use touch attacks on people in an adjacent square (5' reach). A 3rd level Aberrant sorcerer can reach 5' further than that and touch anyone in adjacent squares or anyone in squares adjacent to that.

The wording is a little strange since it's a "Bonus" that is getting bigger. So your base reach is 5', at 11th level you have your 5' reach plus a bonus 10' reach for a total reach of 15'

Wish it weren't limited to 'touch attacks'. I understand why it's not just an extension to reach but if it were any touch spell it would be nice. Or maybe just prohibit it's use in melee.


Khalarak wrote:

Look again. It says 'this BONUS to your reach increases to 10 feet.'

The bonus being the amount added to your normal reach.

Yep. This is what I missed.


*Shudders at the thought of hearing the popping of joints and ligaments as he reaches out to couch someone*

Scarab Sages

Dennis da Ogre wrote:

Characters can normally use touch attacks on people in an adjacent square (5' reach). A 3rd level Aberrant sorcerer can reach 5' further than that and touch anyone in adjacent squares or anyone in squares adjacent to that.

The wording is a little strange since it's a "Bonus" that is getting bigger. So your base reach is 5', at 11th level you have your 5' reach plus a bonus 10' reach for a total reach of 15'

Wish it weren't limited to 'touch attacks'. I understand why it's not just an extension to reach but if it were any touch spell it would be nice. Or maybe just prohibit it's use in melee.

1st level reach 5' (5'=adjacent)

3rd level reach 10' (5'+5')
11th level reach 15' (5'+10')
17th level reach 20' (5'+15')

Paizo Employee Director of Games

Xaaon of Xen'Drik wrote:


1st level reach 5' (5'=adjacent)
3rd level reach 10' (5'+5')
11th level reach 15' (5'+10')
17th level reach 20' (5'+15')

This is correct.

And yes, it is supposed to be a bit creepy when it is in use.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Shadow Lodge

Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Xaaon of Xen'Drik wrote:


1st level reach 5' (5'=adjacent)
3rd level reach 10' (5'+5')
11th level reach 15' (5'+10')
17th level reach 20' (5'+15')

This is correct.

And yes, it is supposed to be a bit creepy when it is in use.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Now we just need a Pathfinder: The Movie to be made.


Jason Bulmahn wrote:
And yes, it is supposed to be a bit creepy when it is in use.

Very reminiscent of a particular X-Files episode.

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Unfortunately, the highest level sorc/wiz spell with a range of Touch is 4th (bestow curse and contagion). Perhaps I will allow this extended reach to also apply to Combat Maneuvers.

And there should be more touch spells in later products, please.


Demiurge 1138 wrote:

Unfortunately, the highest level sorc/wiz spell with a range of Touch is 4th (bestow curse and contagion). Perhaps I will allow this extended reach to also apply to Combat Maneuvers.

And there should be more touch spells in later products, please.

I'm sure your companion who is 10-15' away when you cast teleport to get the party out of harms way will also thank you.


Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Xaaon of Xen'Drik wrote:


1st level reach 5' (5'=adjacent)
3rd level reach 10' (5'+5')
11th level reach 15' (5'+10')
17th level reach 20' (5'+15')

This is correct.

And yes, it is supposed to be a bit creepy when it is in use.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

Resurecting an old thread here, but I envisioned it as sort of a psychic reach, rather than actually shooting out his arm real quick. He casts shocking grasp and sort of shoves/throws the effect forward to the target. Picture Neo at the of the Matrix when he just holds his hand up to stop the bullet. Basically that stance.

If it was intended to be a physical thing, seems like too much room for someone to say "You mean a rubbery limb shoots 10' past me to hit my cleric friend? I chop at it with my axe!" Too Marvel Comics for my taste, in a fantasy setting.

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