Questions regarding the fighter preview


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These might have been addressed already, but I couldn't find any definitive answers.

How is Valero able to use improved vital strike during a charge? Charging is a full-round action and improved vital strike requires its own full-attack action.

Why is Valero only able to move his move speed during the charge? Shouldn't he be able to move twice his speed?

Thanks guys!

Scarab Sages

Improved Vital Strike was likely changed between the Beta and the Final rules to become part of an Attack action, or possibly a Standard Action. Not entirely sure on the 30 ft. thing, I know you are restricted to just your normal move speed when you charge as a partial action. It could be they were just referencing his new speed with the Breastplate, and he can in fact still charge up to 60 feet.

This is all speculation, a lot changed between the Beta and the Final.


Karui Kage wrote:

Improved Vital Strike was likely changed between the Beta and the Final rules to become part of an Attack action, or possibly a Standard Action. Not entirely sure on the 30 ft. thing, I know you are restricted to just your normal move speed when you charge as a partial action. It could be they were just referencing his new speed with the Breastplate, and he can in fact still charge up to 60 feet.

This is all speculation, a lot changed between the Beta and the Final.

I see. Speaking of changes for the final release, were people able to figure out how the finished power attack will work based on that preview?


Valero has a BAB of 14, a strength modifier of 3 and he is power attacking with two weapons, with the primary weapon receiving 8 bonus damage, and the off-hand weapon receiving 4 bonus damage at a cost of -4 to attack rolls. Has anyone determined how power attack functions in the final release?


I think the consensus is that Power Attack is based off one's BAB. I'm guessing something along the lines of:

-1/+2; may take an additional -1/+2 for every 4 points of BAB.

Level 1: -1/+2

Level 4: -2/+4

Level 8: -3/+6

Level 12: -4/+8

Liberty's Edge

Stephan Essex wrote:
Valero has a BAB of 14, a strength modifier of 3 and he is power attacking with two weapons, with the primary weapon receiving 8 bonus damage, and the off-hand weapon receiving 4 bonus damage at a cost of -4 to attack rolls. Has anyone determined how power attack functions in the final release?

We don't have enough data points yet, unfortunately. The two leading contenders seem to be that the penalty is capped at either -1/3 levels (minimum 1) or -1 plus an additional -1/4 levels. It's clear that 1-handed weapons get double the penalty as a damage bonus, but we also don't know whether that's also true for two-handed weapons (some have suggested they might get triple the bonus) or light weapons (does Valeros' short sword only get +4 damage because it's light or because it's in his off-hand?). We still need more information.


Those theories are just the sort of thing I was looking for, thank you! I'm glad to see that its more effective than it was in the beta.

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