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snobi wrote:


Aberzombie wrote:


but that doesn't mean they didn't win a legitimate victory against a legitimate, and very tough opponent.
I agree, but it's a moot point. It's like I'm supposed to be having sex with my wife when an intruder comes in and rapes her. His technique and performance might be quite outstanding, but it doesn't change the fact that he's not supposed to be there. I cannot applaud his performance.

Well, I think you could have phrased things a little differently. It is also not a very apt comparison. In the one case you have a football team that made it to a game that you feel they should not have been in, and the other is a horrific violent crime that can completely ruin someone's life. They are not comparable at all.

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David Fryer wrote:
They are not comparable at all.

They're both grave injustices.

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That do not even rank on anywhere nere the same scale.

Liberty's Edge

I'm recusing myself from this thread.

Whoda thunk college football would be as venemous a subject as politics and religion.


Heathansson wrote:

I'm recusing myself from this thread.

Whoda thunk college football would be as venemous a subject as politics and religion.

And you've lived in TX how long?

Liberty's Edge

Not as long as I lived in Gainesville, Florida.

Home of the Fighting Gators.


Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Heathansson wrote:

I'm recusing myself from this thread.

Whoda thunk college football would be as venemous a subject as politics and religion.

And you've lived in TX how long?

Reminds me of the joke that says football in Texas is not a matter of life or death. It's MUCH more important than that.

Liberty's Edge

All I gotta say is, look what Alabama did to LSU and Georgia.
Then look what the Gators did to both of those teams.


Shortest...recusal...ever!

Liberty's Edge

I'm in Texas.
A Gator fan.
In Texas.

There's no Georgia fans to harass.

Everybody here cannot tell UF from FSU.

There's a bunch of LSU and ARKANSAS fans and that's it.


snobi wrote:
I agree, but it's a moot point. It's like I'm supposed to be having sex with my wife when an intruder comes in and rapes her. His technique and performance might be quite outstanding, but it doesn't change the fact that he's not supposed to be there. I cannot applaud his performance.

Less of this please.


Heathansson wrote:

I'm recusing myself from this thread.

Whoda thunk college football would be as venemous a subject as politics and religion.

Welcome to the US of A! You are clearly a stranger to these parts...


Heathansson wrote:

Everybody here cannot tell UF from FSU.

What do you mean? Everybody here knows the difference between the Florida Seminoles and the FSU Gators. :)

Liberty's Edge

Why, after all these years, do people still take me seriously?

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Shortest...recusal...ever!

They should just give us the National title.

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David Fryer wrote:
That do not even rank on anywhere nere the same scale.

Those seniors from Georgia will never have another shot at a collegiate title, a title they rightly should have challenged for. That's something that was unjustly taken from them that they'll never get back and they have to deal with that for the rest of their lives. Surely there was emotional damage dealt to many Bulldog alumni and fans as well. Perhaps some of this damage led to serious depression and/or immediate or eventual suicides. Same thing goes to a lesser extent to the seniors and supporters of Kansas and Virginia Tech. But you're right. Emotional damage leading to the possible deaths of thousands pales in comparison to one rape.

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snobi wrote:

Surely there was emotional damage dealt to many Bulldog alumni and fans as well.

WOOHOO!!!

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Heathansson wrote:

I'm in Texas.

A Gator fan.
In Texas.

There's no Georgia fans to harass.

Everybody here cannot tell UF from FSU.

There's a bunch of LSU and ARKANSAS fans and that's it.

No. You are in Dallas, which I like to call "South Oklahoma". If you were in, say, Houston, I could provide you with several UGA fans to torment, many people who know the difference between the Seminoles and the Gators, and other such niceties.

And Mr. Fryer, Football is Religion in Texas. (As an aside, look at the percentage of former Texas high school players currently suiting up on Sundays in the NFL. You may be amazed.) Seriously, if you're familiar with "Friday Night Lights", the passion for high school football in Texas is very understated in that movie...


houstonderek wrote:
...Dallas, which I like to call "South Oklahoma"...

Now this thread is REALLY gonna get ugly...

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houstonderek wrote:


And Mr. Fryer, Football is Religion in Texas. (As an aside, look at the percentage of former Texas high school players currently suiting up on Sundays in the NFL. You may be amazed.) Seriously, if you're familiar with "Friday Night Lights", the passion for high school football in Texas is very understated in that movie...

I think you confused me with Heathy. I currently split my worship time between the Church of the Crimson Tide and the First Trinity Congregational Church of the Forty-Niners. And my Alma Mater, Long Beach Polytechnic, has more active NFL players than any other high school in America. Texas who? ;p

Liberty's Edge

David Fryer wrote:
houstonderek wrote:


And Mr. Fryer, Football is Religion in Texas. (As an aside, look at the percentage of former Texas high school players currently suiting up on Sundays in the NFL. You may be amazed.) Seriously, if you're familiar with "Friday Night Lights", the passion for high school football in Texas is very understated in that movie...

I think you confused me with Heathy. I currently split my worship time between the Church of the Crimson Tide and the First Trinity Congregational Church of the Forty-Niners.

Bah, lesser apostate churches...

...and as to this "polytechnic" thingy, well, that's one school, we in Texas have enough talent to spread the wealth, so to speak ;)

actually, you and Gary having the same avatar confused me, sorry ;)

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
...Dallas, which I like to call "South Oklahoma"...
Now this thread is REALLY gonna get ugly...

I ain't even warmed up yet ;)

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houstonderek wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
houstonderek wrote:


And Mr. Fryer, Football is Religion in Texas. (As an aside, look at the percentage of former Texas high school players currently suiting up on Sundays in the NFL. You may be amazed.) Seriously, if you're familiar with "Friday Night Lights", the passion for high school football in Texas is very understated in that movie...

I think you confused me with Heathy. I currently split my worship time between the Church of the Crimson Tide and the First Trinity Congregational Church of the Forty-Niners.

Bah, lesser apostate churches...

...and as to this "polytechnic" thingy, well, that's one school, we in Texas have enough talent to spread the wealth, so to speak ;)

actually, you and Gary having the same avatar confused me, sorry ;)

Ah, but who's going to be playing for the National Championship?


Anybody else seeing weird stuff happening on the site tonight?

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Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Anybody else seeing weird stuff happening on the site tonight?

like what?

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David Fryer wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
houstonderek wrote:


And Mr. Fryer, Football is Religion in Texas. (As an aside, look at the percentage of former Texas high school players currently suiting up on Sundays in the NFL. You may be amazed.) Seriously, if you're familiar with "Friday Night Lights", the passion for high school football in Texas is very understated in that movie...

I think you confused me with Heathy. I currently split my worship time between the Church of the Crimson Tide and the First Trinity Congregational Church of the Forty-Niners.

Bah, lesser apostate churches...

...and as to this "polytechnic" thingy, well, that's one school, we in Texas have enough talent to spread the wealth, so to speak ;)

actually, you and Gary having the same avatar confused me, sorry ;)

Ah, but who's going to be playing for the National Championship?

Um, the Gators?

;)

Liberty's Edge

Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Anybody else seeing weird stuff happening on the site tonight?

You mean like some of the "recent post" entries not having a time on the last post for easy access?


Apostle of Gygax wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Anybody else seeing weird stuff happening on the site tonight?
like what?

Very slow-loading, post-eating, posts appearing in other threads...

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David Fryer wrote:
houstonderek wrote:


And Mr. Fryer, Football is Religion in Texas. (As an aside, look at the percentage of former Texas high school players currently suiting up on Sundays in the NFL. You may be amazed.) Seriously, if you're familiar with "Friday Night Lights", the passion for high school football in Texas is very understated in that movie...

I think you confused me with Heathy. I currently split my worship time between the Church of the Crimson Tide and the First Trinity Congregational Church of the Forty-Niners. And my Alma Mater, Long Beach Polytechnic, has more active NFL players than any other high school in America. Texas who? ;p

You may have your fancy churches down wherever you've been, but back up North in the Salt Lake Valley, we've got the Holy War. Your petty interfaith squabbles pale in comparison to the massive crusade that is launched annually along the mountainside.

And for the record, I think the Utes should at least have a shot at the National title at some point. Even just a chance to play for a chance to play in the championship.

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houstonderek wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Ah, but who's going to be playing for the National Championship?

Um, the Gators?

;)

You should really try stand up comedy. You'd be great at it. Now if the Tide and the Utes could just play each other in the championship, I could die a happy man.

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thefishcometh wrote:
And for the record, I think the Utes should at least have a shot at the National title at some point. Even just a chance to play for a chance to play in the championship.

I completely agree, as I think Boise State should have had a shot a couple of years ago. I hate to beat this into the ground, but only TWO of the "BCS" conferences are actually "special", and the ACC/PAC-10/Big 10/Big East ain't them.

It is patently rediculous that some schools are effectively frozen out because they are in a "lesser" conference, when they'd probably WIN the Big East/Big 10/ACC were they to play in those comferences (I omit the Pac-One from that list as USC is normally VERY good year in-year out in the BCS era, and the Utes, Boise St. and the like might compete, but would probably finish second.)

Eh, there is NO defending the joke that is the BCS...

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thefishcometh wrote:

You may have your fancy churches down wherever you've been, but back up North in the Salt Lake Valley, we've got the Holy War. Your petty interfaith squabbles pale in comparison to the massive crusade that is launched annually along the mountainside.

That's because the T-Birds aren't worth talking about and haven't been since 2002. Maybe our basketball team can at least end with a winning record this year. The football team tried, but they screwed it up, as usual.

Liberty's Edge

David Fryer wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
David Fryer wrote:
Ah, but who's going to be playing for the National Championship?

Um, the Gators?

;)

You should really try stand up comedy. You'd be great at it. Now if the Tide and the Utes could just play each other in the championship, I could die a happy man.

Seriously, has 'Bama scored an offensive touchdown yet? Just asking ;)

(I kinda like the Utes though. I hope Texas gets to play them instead of Ohio (Choke) State in their bowl, it would be an epic game.)


houstonderek wrote:


actually, you and Gary having the same avatar confused me, sorry ;)

That's why we have have the same avatar. We enjoy the confusion it causes. :)

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Garydee wrote:
houstonderek wrote:


actually, you and Gary having the same avatar confused me, sorry ;)
That's why we have have the same avatar. We enjoy the confusion it causes. :)

Much to our chagrin...

Scarab Sages

Heathansson wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Shortest...recusal...ever!
They should just give us the National title.

Would Tebow cry if they did?


snobi wrote:
Those seniors from Georgia will never have another shot at a collegiate title, a title they rightly should have challenged for. That's something that was unjustly taken from them that they'll never get back and they have to deal with that for the rest of their lives.

I like cheese!

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Mighty Mouse wrote:


I like cheese!

One man's depression/suicide is another man's entertainment.


snobi wrote:
Mighty Mouse wrote:


I like cheese!
One man's depression/suicide is another man's entertainment.

Oh come on! Cheese isn't that bad! I hear it goes great with certain beverages.

Liberty's Edge

Aberzombie wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
Mairkurion {tm} wrote:
Shortest...recusal...ever!
They should just give us the National title.
Would Tebow cry if they did?

I went and covered my boss' 2007 LSU TIGERS National Champions magnet with sticky notes with an "8" and a "Florida Gators" just for you.

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houstonderek wrote:

Seriously, has 'Bama scored an offensive touchdown yet? Just asking ;)

Is that the best you've got? Cause back in 2001 the Ravens went to the Super Bowl without having scored a touchdown at all in like five games. You'll have to come up with a better reason then that to deny us our due shot. ;p

Liberty's Edge

Tebow wasn't crying. It was probably allergies. Had to be.


thefishcometh wrote:
Garydee wrote:
houstonderek wrote:


actually, you and Gary having the same avatar confused me, sorry ;)
That's why we have have the same avatar. We enjoy the confusion it causes. :)
Much to our chagrin...

You're right. It probably is annoying. I'll change mine to get rid of the confusion.

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Heathansson wrote:
I went and covered my boss' 2007 LSU TIGERS National Champions magnet with sticky notes with an "8" and a "Florida Gators" just for you.

That's OK, I heard they're frauds anyway...

Besides, it doesn't matter. I'm sure Saban has some master plan to destroy the Gators on the field and leave Tebow on the sidelines as a mewling lump of quivering, tear-stained, "I need a hug" flesh.

ROLL TIDE!!!

Liberty's Edge

I'm going to remember this conversation for next year when we play you guys. It makes me feel ashamed that I was such a gracious winner this year. Like Tebow would want me to be.

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I'm sure Tebow would want you to be a gracious winner, but you have to win to do that. We're not gonna let you. Roll Tide.

Liberty's Edge

Great. Now I gotta run back and forth from the t.v. to the computer like a Spurrier quarterback to intermittently talk smack on Saturday.

Liberty's Edge

Isn't this about the time some English dude comes and tells us U.S. footballplayers wear pads, so they're sissies?


Heathansson wrote:
Isn't this about the time some English dude comes and tells us U.S. footballplayers wear pads, so they're sissies?

Or tell us how bad our healthcare system is and how we need to change it to match theirs. j/k

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Garydee wrote:
Heathansson wrote:
Isn't this about the time some English dude comes and tells us U.S. footballplayers wear pads, so they're sissies?
Or tell us how bad our healthcare system is and how we need to change it to match theirs. j/k

Or how bad our dentists are.

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