Wouldn't that be a good thing? I'm tired of my shoes getting ruined by people trying to mark their (virtual) territory.But, it would be awefully quiet.
I thought ogres and trolls liked their swamps empty.
I thought ogres and trolls liked their swamps empty.Wouldn't that be a good thing? I'm tired of my shoes getting ruined by people trying to mark their (virtual) territory.But, it would be awefully quiet.
Nah! A troll's gotta eat. :D
Nah! A troll's gotta eat. :DI thought ogres and trolls liked their swamps empty.Wouldn't that be a good thing? I'm tired of my shoes getting ruined by people trying to mark their (virtual) territory.But, it would be awefully quiet.
Is that why you took the WoD bait?
Returning to the comment about why someone who supports 4e and not Paizo products would be on Paizo's site. It seems like one of the biggest reasons keeps getting overlooked even though it is an obvious reason. Paizo is more than a gaming company they also are an online store. Paizo in fact sells ... now wait for it ... 4e products by WotC. Why shouldn't a (possible) customer of the Paizo store feel welcome on their message boards even if they don't buy Paizo's inhouse products?
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And somehow the mentality that a company like Paizo or Necromancer or Mongoose or Palladium being able to compete toe to toe with WotC, and WIN, is unrealistic? It's not unheard of.When a company is as dominant as WotC they need to fail so horribly for the competition to have any chance at all of taking their place. Apple and Microsoft have been going at it for decades and Apple is just now taking away a serious chunk of Microsoft's market share and they are still only down in the single digit percentages.
Paizo replacing WotC as the market leader is unrealistic.
And what's wrong with that? No one laughs at you when you have an apple. In the eyes of many, apple happens to produce the better product. Even iff Microsoft has a larger market share,no one is thinking that apple is making a mistake by producing their own OS.
Why should it be any different for Paizo? They can be a strong 2nd party, without ever having to take down WotC. Instead, if the continue to do well, which the reliable high-quality of their products virtually garuntees, they can create something here that other companies have only dreamed of.
White Wolf and Green Ronin do this and I do not see how Paizo doing it could possibly be harmful to the industry or to us as consumers.
Hell the very existence of Pathfinder can be very good for the quality of product produced by Wizards or even Green Ronin or White Wolf. But mostly wizards.
Each company's game represents a different style of gameplay.
The interesting thing is pathfinder is no occupying a spot that wizards just left and wizards is occupying a completely new spot.
Overall, this is an exciting time to be playing games and I am proud to be one of Pathfinder's 25,000( my first paycheck at my new job is buying PFCS and the beta release.)
No one laughs at you when you have an apple.
What you talking about Willis?
Mac/PC Chicks
Mac/PC Games
and my favorite Mac/PC Money
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And what's wrong with that?And somehow the mentality that a company like Paizo or Necromancer or Mongoose or Palladium being able to compete toe to toe with WotC, and WIN, is unrealistic? It's not unheard of.When a company is as dominant as WotC they need to fail so horribly for the competition to have any chance at all of taking their place. Apple and Microsoft have been going at it for decades and Apple is just now taking away a serious chunk of Microsoft's market share and they are still only down in the single digit percentages.
Paizo replacing WotC as the market leader is unrealistic.
Who said something was? The post you replied to seems to just say that Paizo having a bigger market share than WotC is unlikely. As you say, there's plenty of room for a strong 2nd party.
Because Dennis, we have a small piece of paper in this country called the Constitution, which allows us to express our rights under its First Amendment. I for one think 4E is horrible. But does that mean I can't chime in from time to time on issues involving it? I think not. It seems to me that the most hateful people on these boards are those trying to defend, unsuccessfully I might add, 4E. "Stop saying bad things about 4E!" "I dont want to see the writing on the wall!"
Bandit of LV
Oh dear.
Yon constitutional scholar, your first amendment rights die at the door to someone else's house. As long as you (and your posts) are camped on Paizo's internet property, you need to accept that while you can say what you want, they can delete it and throw you out on a whim. Not that they would, necessarily, but please don't hide behind the bill of rights unless it's to protect yourself from the government.
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Why else would anyone defend them that much?
Because they love arguing for little to no reason and are unable to comprehend that they could be wrong, or even that sometimes there is no single right answer.
And as for your second post, that's very rude and completely unjustified. Not a good way to make a first impression on these boards.
After reading some of these post that slam anyone who doesn’t like 4e. I wonder if some of the people who post like that work for Wizards. Why else would anyone defend them that much?
Shhh! If WotC thinks people know we're on the payroll, we lose all our bonuses! ;)
After reading some of these post that slam anyone who doesn’t like 4e. I wonder if some of the people who post like that work for Wizards. Why else would anyone defend them that much?
I don't think people were simply slamming anyone who doesn't like 4e. It's only when people begin hating on 4e for reasons that simply are untrue (whether they be rules, design philosophy, or otherwise) that some feel obligated to step in and correct them.
Say hi to the group at Wizards for me!!!Because Dennis, we have a small piece of paper in this country called the Constitution, which allows us to express our rights under its First Amendment. I for one think 4E is horrible. But does that mean I can't chime in from time to time on issues involving it? I think not. It seems to me that the most hateful people on these boards are those trying to defend, unsuccessfully I might add, 4E. "Stop saying bad things about 4E!" "I dont want to see the writing on the wall!"
Bandit of LV
Oh dear.
Yon constitutional scholar, your first amendment rights die at the door to someone else's house. As long as you (and your posts) are camped on Paizo's internet property, you need to accept that while you can say what you want, they can delete it and throw you out on a whim. Not that they would, necessarily, but please don't hide behind the bill of rights unless it's to protect yourself from the government.
Pardon?
After reading some of these post that slam anyone who doesn’t like 4e. I wonder if some of the people who post like that work for Wizards. Why else would anyone defend them that much?
How about "Because its the Internet?" :)
I agree completely Ixan, but how many from the other side have you seen crossing over into Pathfinder or even 3E forums to 'stirr up trouble'?
In all fairness, If he is like many of us, we dont look in the 4e forums, but instead look at the recently posted titles on the left of the screen of the message boards and it doesnt tell you what forum the title is from.
Many times Ive seen an interesting title, gone in and posted; and after the fact realized I was saying anti-4e things in the 4e forum. All I can say, is please understand, most of us aren't getting on anyone else who wants to play and likes 4e. Heck I don't like the World of Darkness Games either.:D
But expressing why we dislike it is as much our right as it is the the right of the folks to say why they like it. The issue comes from people who feel they have to argue that your opinion is wrong, and demand you to substantiate why you have your opinion...from either side of the house.
So I don't think its to stir up trouble. ;)
Well if that is the case, just look beforfe you post. :P
I have no problem when someone posts their opinions, actually this is what this board for discussion. But when some people get right out insulting and just post stuff to start a flame war, Well their intentions are pretty obvious.
Apparently I also work at WotC as well.
And the allegation made was well founded and not slightly insane at all.
Nope, not a little bit insane.
No.
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I've found that people who make these sorts of allegations, have really just lost the argument in the most complete way possible and are just flailing about as they realize they have nothing left to say that is actually sane.
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Okay I will accept that you really belive what he said was not rude nor civil. I'll mark that as a description of your character.Remarkably naive and hopeful. <grin>
I just don't think he really meant it as a request to go away. I know how it can be read. Maybe he did mean it that way. I would like to think he didn't based off of what I know about his posting history.
Ack! What has become of us?!?!? :)
Some cookie on cookie action.
How naughty.
And yet intriguing. I would like to see some of this cookie on cookie action.
I absolutely didn't mean it as a "go away" post. I am simply curious as to why someone with no like of Paizo would come on their boards? He displayed a dislike for the setting and game of Pathfinder so he probably doesn't want any conversions. Some people are looking for Paizo to join in and produce some good 3pp or convert existing stuff to 4E, so I understand that. I just don't understand why someone would even look at Paizo's site if they totally disliked Paizo products. I was hoping he would post back and explain that he used to like such and such, or he liked the way the board was run, or he ordered other companies' products through Paizo, or he feels like smearing their name, or whatever, just something that I can understand.
I tried very hard to make sure that my previous post wasn't misconstrued as an attack, but it was taken that way anyhow. I know the 3 vs 4 thing was bad but I really wasn't trying to stir that up again.
Sorry if anyone took my post wrong.
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Most of the pro 4e post sounds like an attempt to talk people into ‘just giving this poor little game a try’.
Except, you know, all the ones that aren't, and are actually correcting objectively misstated facts in anti-4e posts.
I have and it’s nothing more then a MMO or a tactical wargame, me. That’s my opinion.
Yes. That's your opinion. And therefore you're absolutely entitled to say that everyone who defends 4e is a WotC employee in disguise.
But that is your opinion that try wrong about 4e.After reading some of these post that slam anyone who doesn’t like 4e. I wonder if some of the people who post like that work for Wizards. Why else would anyone defend them that much?I don't think people were simply slamming anyone who doesn't like 4e. It's only when people begin hating on 4e for reasons that simply are untrue (whether they be rules, design philosophy, or otherwise) that some feel obligated to step in and correct them.
No, I'm talking about the sort of thing where (to cite a recent example on another board) someone claims that in 4th Edition monsters just die when you drop them, making interrogating captured foes impossible - when in fact the rules clearly state that the player who dealt the killing blow can opt to knock the target unconscious instead.
Most of the pro 4e post sounds like an attempt to talk people into ‘just giving this poor little game a try’.
I don't know if I'd call the best-selling, most-played tabletop RPG on the market a "poor little game", but people really should be trying it out.
I have and it’s nothing more then a MMO or a tactical wargame, me. That’s my opinion.
Fair enough. If you ignore the sections on skill challenges, role-playing, campaign building and everything else not related to combat I can certainly see how you might reach that conclusion.
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I'm just curious but I thought I would ask, you don't like Pathfinder Setting, you are a fan of 4E and, as far as I can tell, you don't like the Pathfinder RPG. Why are you here? This is Paizo. They make Pathfinder products and don't support 4E. It sounds like you should be over at WOTC's site judging by your preferences. I am not trying to sound rude or anything, I am just curious as to why someone would frequent a gaming site that they don't support or have interest in?I'm just curious, you are a fan of Pathfinder RPG, you obviously can't stand 4e. Why are you here? This is the 4e board. Did it ever occur to you that if Paizo didn't want people here and discussing 4e that they would... you know... not have a 4e board?
Anaxxius is here most likely because he likes the Pathfinder Adventure Paths and other Pathfinder materials. Makes a lot more sense to me than someone who can't stand 4e being on the 4e boards.
I won't play 4E for a variety or reasons but I do have interest in it. I like to see some of the mechanical discussions and glean some info from them so I peruse the 4E forum. I also like to hear about news from 4E, such as a GSL change or some such. I also support the site and buy their products. I never said that the 4E forum should be closed or that people should go elsewhere, I am merely curious (as to very hard to state without offending people) as to why someone would even know about and use a site that only produces stuff that is not attractive to them. See my previous post for reasons as to why.
I never got snarky or attacked anyone and yet I am having a lot of hostility leveled at me unfairly.
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And really, I think it comes down to a couple of things when people treat it as just a tabletop MMO or tactical wargame. It's an opinion, yes, but one born, at least in my case originally, from not looking at the game the right way (and admittedly because I listened to a lot of other people that were saying the same thing). Another thing is that, if your DM ignores the parts of the DMG that actually talk about roleplaying, world building and other aspects that actually make this game still D&D, or just didn't look them over well enough, yeah...it can wind up with that kind of feel to it.
I absolutely didn't mean it as a "go away" post. I am simply curious as to why someone with no like of Paizo would come on their boards? He displayed a dislike for the setting and game of Pathfinder so he probably doesn't want any conversions. Some people are looking for Paizo to join in and produce some good 3pp or convert existing stuff to 4E, so I understand that. I just don't understand why someone would even look at Paizo's site if they totally disliked Paizo products. I was hoping he would post back and explain that he used to like such and such, or he liked the way the board was run, or he ordered other companies' products through Paizo, or he feels like smearing their name, or whatever, just something that I can understand.
I tried very hard to make sure that my previous post wasn't misconstrued as an attack, but it was taken that way anyhow. I know the 3 vs 4 thing was bad but I really wasn't trying to stir that up again.
Sorry if anyone took my post wrong.
Except his or anyone's reason(s) for being here are irrelevant to practically all discussions. Since it is irrelevant, why try to make an issue out of it, if not to suggest that he doesn't belong? Frankly, I think you doth protest too much.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and it looks like we have:
T roy - Razz 2, the Resurrection!
Fight the good fight!
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Returning to the comment about why someone who supports 4e and not Paizo products would be on Paizo's site. It seems like one of the biggest reasons keeps getting overlooked even though it is an obvious reason. Paizo is more than a gaming company they also are an online store. Paizo in fact sells ... now wait for it ... 4e products by WotC. Why shouldn't a (possible) customer of the Paizo store feel welcome on their message boards even if they don't buy Paizo's inhouse products?
That is a good answer. I just was wondering if this is the case since if I was to order 4E I would go with a company like Amazon or B&N to get the best price, and not with Paizo since I really wouldn't owe them any loyalty if I didn't like their products. I was more wondering how he found his way here is all.
I realize there was a bit of snark in your reply, Pres, but I am trying to overlook it and not return with snark because my original question was not meant to be rude even though everyone seems to be beating on me pretty good for it.
But if you add all of that back in you have a few MMO's I've played. And there is a few video games that had the same things in them.
Most of the pro 4e post sounds like an attempt to talk people into ‘just giving this poor little game a try’.I don't know if I'd call the best-selling, most-played tabletop RPG on the market a "poor little game", but people really should be trying it out.
Now you do sound like a company rep, with this one. :)
I have and it’s nothing more then a MMO or a tactical wargame, me. That’s my opinion.Fair enough. If you ignore the sections on skill challenges, role-playing, campaign building and everything else not related to combat I can certainly see how you might reach that conclusion.
And, y'know, so does Dungeons & Dragons.
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I’ve no problem with you guys doing that.Most of the pro 4e post sounds like an attempt to talk people into ‘just giving this poor little game a try’.Except, you know, all the ones that aren't, and are actually correcting objectively misstated facts in anti-4e posts.
I have and it’s nothing more then a MMO or a tactical wargame, me. That’s my opinion.Yes. That's your opinion. And therefore you're absolutely entitled to say that everyone who defends 4e is a WotC employee in disguise.
I'm not pro-4e at all. I just really dislike it when people act like only their opinion is valid and nobody can disagree, even when I agree with them.
I just thought it was kind of funny how some of the post read like there written by Wizards staff wrote them.
Or maybe they just like the game Wizards makes.
Why didn't you like about it, Anaxxius?
Edit: Also, I looked at the Pathfinder Campaign Setting...didn't do it for me, probably won't do it for a lot of other people, too.
After reviewing his reviews, I have to guess the primary problem was that it wasn't 4e.
Returning to the comment about why someone who supports 4e and not Paizo products would be on Paizo's site. It seems like one of the biggest reasons keeps getting overlooked even though it is an obvious reason. Paizo is more than a gaming company they also are an online store. Paizo in fact sells ... now wait for it ... 4e products by WotC. Why shouldn't a (possible) customer of the Paizo store feel welcome on their message boards even if they don't buy Paizo's inhouse products?That is a good answer. I just was wondering if this is the case since if I was to order 4E I would go with a company like Amazon or B&N to get the best price, and not with Paizo since I really wouldn't owe them any loyalty if I didn't like their products. I was more wondering how he found his way here is all.
I realize there was a bit of snark in your reply, Pres, but I am trying to overlook it and not return with snark because my original question was not meant to be rude even though everyone seems to be beating on me pretty good for it.
Well, my Paizo buying has declined greatly since 4E came out (well, my RPG buying in general, really, because of my burning hatred of the current GSL and the terrible nearsightedness it represents) but I still keep up with Pathfinder news. I'm still playing in four Pathfinder society scenarios at Gencon. And I still do pick up an occasional flip map or other item.
Though I don't "owe" Paizo anything, and despite my disappointment with the way Pathfinder/4E played out (NOT assigning blame), I would still rather send my business to Paizo or my FLGS than amazon, etc.
Unfortunately, the 4E vitriol remains, and though it has started to diminish, there remains a chunk of posters that seems *determined* to find insult in everything WOTC does. Which of course contributes to the continued polarization. Sebastian had it right with his "shine" post of a few months back...just let it go, already.
After reviewing his reviews, I have to guess the primary problem was that it wasn't 4e.Why didn't you like about it, Anaxxius?
Edit: Also, I looked at the Pathfinder Campaign Setting...didn't do it for me, probably won't do it for a lot of other people, too.
Well, as a 4E "fan" I can chime in and say I liked the Gazetteer, but haven't picked up the hardback yet. I will probably pick up the hardback at gencon. Very rules-light.
That is a good answer. I just was wondering if this is the case since if I was to order 4E I would go with a company like Amazon or B&N to get the best price, and not with Paizo since I really wouldn't owe them any loyalty if I didn't like their products. I was more wondering how he found his way here is all.
Well, as someone who is for 4E all the way and not a fan of the Pathfinder setting, I can give you a reason why I'd buy from Paizo.
I like Paizo the company. I started buying because of the Age of Wyrms AP, which was some of the best adventure design I'd ever seen and one of the most fun campaigns I ever got to DM.
From there, I grew to like the way Paizo does business, and I really enjoy the feeling I get from buying from them. I nearly laughed myself sick the first time I had to call their customer support line and heard their recorded messages. (If you have not done so before, call them and listen to the customer service department's answering machine. It's well worth it.)
That kind of touch makes a customer loyal to a company, even if their in house products are no longer for me. I've always believed in putting my money where my mouth is, so I buy board games and such from Paizo instead of a local gaming store, as I have no 'freindly' local gaming store that is nearly as nice as Paizo has been in the past.
That feeling of community and loyalty has been... strained since the Pathfinder announcement, when the forums turned into a flaming pit of doom from which no information could escape. I know it's not fair to the folks at Paizo, but these boards have put a real strain on the feeling of community that makes me a Paizo customer.
The folks from Paizo themselves have been good about the edition change. It's not for them, and they can't do business under the current GSL, and I'm sorry that's the case. I understand their reasons, they are valid ones, even if I'd prefer they had chosen to convert. But they haven't been nasty about it in the same way some posters have been, and they've tried to keep this board welcoming. Their reactions have been why I've stayed, even when the anti-4E flame wars make it hard to feel welcome here.
Anyway, babbling now! That's my reason for buying from Paizo, and I'm sure others feel that way too.
Well, as a 4E "fan" I can chime in and say I liked the Gazetteer, but haven't picked up the hardback yet. I will probably pick up the hardback at gencon. Very rules-light.After reviewing his reviews, I have to guess the primary problem was that it wasn't 4e.Why didn't you like about it, Anaxxius?
Edit: Also, I looked at the Pathfinder Campaign Setting...didn't do it for me, probably won't do it for a lot of other people, too.
Most of the hardcover is about as rules light as the Gazetteer, but there are feats, prestige classes, and world-specific equipment that are pretty attached to 3.5. Most of it is fine with 4e I think though, just want to give a heads up.
Either way I, in no way, believe that my assessment applied to all 4e fans or even most 4e fans. I believe that most 4e fans can enjoy this product, just like most 3.5 fans might enjoy some of the 4e products that come out.
Sebastian had it right with his "shine" post of a...Linky?
I think it is in his profile.
Edit: Linky.
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Sebastian had it right with his "shine" post of a...Linky?I think it is in his profile.
Edit: Linky.
Coolio. Thanks!
Well, my Paizo buying has declined greatly since 4E came out (well, my RPG buying in general, really, because of my burning hatred of the current GSL and the terrible nearsightedness it represents) but I still keep up with Pathfinder news. I'm still playing in four Pathfinder society scenarios at Gencon. And I still do pick up an occasional flip map or other item.Returning to the comment about why someone who supports 4e and not Paizo products would be on Paizo's site. It seems like one of the biggest reasons keeps getting overlooked even though it is an obvious reason. Paizo is more than a gaming company they also are an online store. Paizo in fact sells ... now wait for it ... 4e products by WotC. Why shouldn't a (possible) customer of the Paizo store feel welcome on their message boards even if they don't buy Paizo's inhouse products?That is a good answer. I just was wondering if this is the case since if I was to order 4E I would go with a company like Amazon or B&N to get the best price, and not with Paizo since I really wouldn't owe them any loyalty if I didn't like their products. I was more wondering how he found his way here is all.
I realize there was a bit of snark in your reply, Pres, but I am trying to overlook it and not return with snark because my original question was not meant to be rude even though everyone seems to be beating on me pretty good for it.
I'm quite the opposite - I hadn't bought a Paizo product until 4th Edition came out. Then I became so excited with the way 4th Edition handled design that I decided to try my hand at thoroughly converting Rise of the Runelords to 4th Edition and went ahead and bought Burnt Offerings. It's worked out pretty nicely so far.
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This just seems relavent so I thought I'd throw it out here.
See it for yourself here!I'll chime in with a few things.
Q) Is the timing of this announcement in any way related to GenCon happening later this week?
A) Why yes. Linae and I wanted to actually release the changes to the license prior to the show but when it became clear that wasn't going to happen we decided to make the announcement of our intentions to stem off questions regarding the license.
Q) Is the GSL going to have significant changes?
A) We hope so. If the changes we recommended go through they will be significant.
Q) Am I going to like the changes?
A) I think many people will be happy. It probably won't please everyone but if the changes we recommended go through the license we appeal to a lot more people.
Q) Why should we trust you?
A) You probably shouldn't. As the saying goes "seeing is believing" but know that our intentions are to make the license more user friendly. The proof of our efforts will be in the final output so I would hope for the best but maintain a certain level of skepticism.
Q) Is Clark Peterson a payed shill or something?
A) No, but we value Clark's insight and opinion and want to see publishers like Necromancer make 4th edition compatible supplements.
Q) Is this going to take 6 months (or longer) to release like the last time?
A) I sure hope not. Our legal team has told us they will work on it next week but we are not committing to a time line as those things often shift.
Hmm seeing a lot of I hope so and I thinks so it seems there not even sure what the changes are going to be not exactly a great confidence builder.
Coolio. Thanks!Sebastian had it right with his "shine" post of a...Linky?I think it is in his profile.
Edit: Linky.
Indeed, thanks. I couldn't seem to find it.
Hmm seeing a lot of I hope so and I thinks so it seems there not even sure what the changes are going to be not exactly a great confidence builder.This just seems relavent so I thought I'd throw it out here.
See it for yourself here!I'll chime in with a few things.
Q) Is the timing of this announcement in any way related to GenCon happening later this week?
A) Why yes. Linae and I wanted to actually release the changes to the license prior to the show but when it became clear that wasn't going to happen we decided to make the announcement of our intentions to stem off questions regarding the license.
Q) Is the GSL going to have significant changes?
A) We hope so. If the changes we recommended go through they will be significant.
Q) Am I going to like the changes?
A) I think many people will be happy. It probably won't please everyone but if the changes we recommended go through the license we appeal to a lot more people.
Q) Why should we trust you?
A) You probably shouldn't. As the saying goes "seeing is believing" but know that our intentions are to make the license more user friendly. The proof of our efforts will be in the final output so I would hope for the best but maintain a certain level of skepticism.
Q) Is Clark Peterson a payed shill or something?
A) No, but we value Clark's insight and opinion and want to see publishers like Necromancer make 4th edition compatible supplements.
Q) Is this going to take 6 months (or longer) to release like the last time?
A) I sure hope not. Our legal team has told us they will work on it next week but we are not committing to a time line as those things often shift.
The fact that WotC has decided to listen to 3PP concerns and actually do something about it should be building your confidence at least a little. Clearly they don't want to promise anything and then have to backtrack, but it certainly sounds like they're hopeful that the changes will be significant, which means that the stuff they've submitted to the legal team is significant.
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The fact that WotC has decided to listen to 3PP concerns and actually do something about it should be building your confidence at least a little. Clearly they don't want to promise anything and...Hmm seeing a lot of I hope so and I thinks so it seems there not even sure what the changes are going to be not exactly a great confidence builder.This just seems relavent so I thought I'd throw it out here.
See it for yourself here!I'll chime in with a few things.
Q) Is the timing of this announcement in any way related to GenCon happening later this week?
A) Why yes. Linae and I wanted to actually release the changes to the license prior to the show but when it became clear that wasn't going to happen we decided to make the announcement of our intentions to stem off questions regarding the license.
Q) Is the GSL going to have significant changes?
A) We hope so. If the changes we recommended go through they will be significant.
Q) Am I going to like the changes?
A) I think many people will be happy. It probably won't please everyone but if the changes we recommended go through the license we appeal to a lot more people.
Q) Why should we trust you?
A) You probably shouldn't. As the saying goes "seeing is believing" but know that our intentions are to make the license more user friendly. The proof of our efforts will be in the final output so I would hope for the best but maintain a certain level of skepticism.
Q) Is Clark Peterson a payed shill or something?
A) No, but we value Clark's insight and opinion and want to see publishers like Necromancer make 4th edition compatible supplements.
Q) Is this going to take 6 months (or longer) to release like the last time?
A) I sure hope not. Our legal team has told us they will work on it next week but we are not committing to a time line as those things often shift.
Problem is they have even said there is no certainty that the changes they proposed will be implemented so untill I see proof otherwise im going to take it as the legal department saying "well look over the rules and think about it"
Indeed, thanks. I couldn't seem to find it.Coolio. Thanks!Sebastian had it right with his "shine" post of a...Linky?I think it is in his profile.
Edit: Linky.
No problem.
Problem is they have even said there is no certainty that the changes they proposed will be implemented so untill I see proof otherwise im going to take it as the legal department saying "well look over the rules and think about it"
They've been given the go-ahead to make changes to the GSL, which means the legal department is going to do more than "think about it". There will be changes made, and those changes will be for the better as far as 3PPs are concerned. The exact significance of the changes remains to be seen, but you really are dramatically underplaying all of this.