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What the USA is getting is a Russia more vulnerable to the Oil Curve - the big picture being to make it harder for Russia to maintain a well fueled Warmachine without exploiting those Siberian reserves. US companies are cuing to exploit Siberian Oil...and this has all the Halmarks of George W. arranging things so his Private intersts can pick up Siberian Oil.
And....right here is where this thread lost it's grounding in reality. Russia flexes it's military muscles. Let's try to pin it on the U.S. somehow.
<pro-Michigan song>Wow. Never realized there was a song that praised Michigan. Now if only this state could live up to it.
Also, raise your hand if you read this thread and thought it was talking about the state and not the country.
Dude, it's talking about the University of. Sheesh, what are you, some sort of lilly livered Trojan?
And, for the record, Michigan > Every other state except Texas > something I wiped off the bottom of my shoe after walking through a manure and sewage plant > Texas
Oh, that was University Of Michigan's song? I didn't know that.
Also, I do like Michigan. I mean, that's mainly because I live here, but still, I like it. Just, blame the news. "Jobs Leaving Michigan", "More People Moving Away From Michigan", "Study Shows Two of Five Worst Citys In U.S. In Michigan". OK, that last one may not count scince those two citys weren't that good in the first place, but still. Things just aren't looking that good for this state.
And, for the record, Michigan > Every other state except Texas > something I wiped off the bottom of my shoe after walking through a manure and sewage plant > Texas
Well, other than the whole "news saying the economy going to Baator in a handbasket" deal, can't say I disagree with you. The weather's nice, the people are friendly, it's overall a good place.
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I thought Georgia was still part of the U.S. though. Did they succeed from the union?
We better take care of them, before they invade Alabama or something.
Oh, the alternate reality version:
Russia invades Georgia!
Ted Turner vows to fight to the last employee.
Texas, not bound by international law in the absence of direct Congressional action, vows unconditional support.
Texas Rangers join Atlanta Braves in the fight against the Yankee-Communist invaders.
Putin files protests against use of the Chop as a cruel and barbaric weapon.
Files additional protest against the Rangers use of steroids to create super soldiers.
Michigan sports department offers to start guerilla resistance against Russians. Cubans withdraw offer to provide rear area security.
France surrenders!
Sarkozy reminds French parliament he has guts. Orders nuclear strike.
Advisors note Russia never declared war on France.
Sarkozy shrugs, says "C'est la vie" and goes off to party with his hot wife.
And they would have gotten a lot more early TV coverage if they had done it that way.
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What the USA is getting is a Russia more vulnerable to the Oil Curve - the big picture being to make it harder for Russia to maintain a well fueled Warmachine without exploiting those Siberian reserves. US companies are cuing to exploit Siberian Oil...and this has all the Halmarks of George W. arranging things so his Private intersts can pick up Siberian Oil.
And....right here is where this thread lost it's grounding in reality. Russia flexes it's military muscles. Let's try to pin it on the U.S. somehow.
As well as being total crap. The Russians are basically making it impossible for foreign companies to exploit their natural resources, indeed difficult for anyone without Kremlin connections. The problems BP have had with their Russian joint venure, and the crushing of Yukos, and so one, makes it clear that 'dingo really has very little grasp of this situation. Assuming he is serious, which is never really clear.
Russia makes trouble for the governments in the former Russian republics becuase it considers them to be its own territory, given up by Yeltsin in an absent-minded moment (and to leave Gorbachev without a job) and also doesn't like the fact that many (like Georgia) are fairly anti-Russian and pro-American, which makes Russia feel vulnerable. The current problem has much more to do with Russia wanting to keep Georgia cowed than it has to do with American energy policy (and anyway, it is mostly gas in Russia and it is mostly piped to Europe, not the US).
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You so need to be writing for TIME magazine...I suppose Russia needs a Buffer zone. I always thought the difference with the Chechens was that they had supplied the Sadam Hussein regime in Iraq with Fiberoptic comms (uses to provide Iraq with a fiberoptic early warning system out of Mosul) they stole when they took those telecom employees who had been contracted to put in the Phones back in the 90s hostage. They were pissed at Turkey because they had laundered the money and brokered the deal.Actually it is because you work for Russia.
Georgia launched that offensive against South Ossetia because you planted a false report about Russian weakness that encouraged them to move to resolve their internal crisis.
Russia then acted based on a report by you to them that it would allow yourself and other Russian agents to destabilize the west by spreading Great Lies on the internet, distracting and dissipating the Western Response until Russian supported Abkhazian and other forces from the Caucasus were able to exterminate another significant chunk of the Georgian population. That of course is based on another report you submitted to them, advising that they could engage in large scale ethnic cleansing without suffering international backlash if they used proxies to achieve it.
As for your constant references to Bush, that relates to an incident many years ago when Bush embarassed you at a college, showing your professor that you had failed to do a homework assignment properly. You failed that course, and you have dedicated your life to getting revenge on him ever since.
A twisted tale to be sure.There. A conspiracy theory that has as much relation to reality as any of Yellowdingo's. Everyone comment and expand on it so he can feel fully involved.
George W. fled to Canada to Avoid the Draft...he's actually an operative from Canada's Manchurian Candidate program.
Ok I confess: Samuel Weiss is a Hand Puppet in my "Abusive Uncle Sam Show".
"Me Saddam! Want Some Oil?" Saddam puppet flashes inside of trenchcoat.
"Die!Die!Die!" Sam Hits Saddam with Club and takes oil...
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...and this has all the Halmarks of George W. arranging things so his Private intersts can pick up Siberian Oil.Ah yes, George W. Bush - stupid moron, excpet when we need him to be an evil genius so we can pin some crazy conspiracy on him.Well, we know it couldn't be the Russians.
"No one who speaks Russian could be an evil man."
I thought that was German?
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Sebastian...what will we do with you? Your anti-Texas campaign will never work. Even trying to sell Texas to Canada for $2 flopped. Give it up, my friend.
Is Texas still for sale at $2? I've been looking for some place to put up a few Mosques and drill for oil...
The Hegemony of Saxet (conveniently positioned on the north coast of Bannannaland)
Primary Resources: Sand, Rock, Oil Tar?
And, for the record, Michigan > Every other state except Texas > something I wiped off the bottom of my shoe after walking through a manure and sewage plant > TexasWell, other than the whole "news saying the economy going to Baator in a handbasket" deal, can't say I disagree with you. The weather's nice, the people are friendly, it's overall a good place.
Well... the weather is not nice in Michigan. It gets the second least amount of sunshine, after Seattle (too bad for paizo). Factor in the lake effect on snowfall and you have a pretty dismal place as far as weather is concerned.
But, yes, the people who come from Michigan are far superior to other people. This includes Texans.
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Patrick Swayze is not, never has been, and never could be a wolverine. Any group which includes him as a member and is named the wolverines is infringing on that name. The only real wolverines play for Michigan.Oops, wrong wolverines.
i bet SWAYZE could beat OSU...
(edit: that would be because he's from, i dunno, TEXAS)
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<pro-Michigan song>Wow. Never realized there was a song that praised Michigan. Now if only this state could live up to it.
Also, raise your hand if you read this thread and thought it was talking about the state and not the country.
Dude, it's talking about the University of. Sheesh, what are you, some sort of lilly livered Trojan?
And, for the record, Michigan > Every other state except Texas > something I wiped off the bottom of my shoe after walking through a manure and sewage plant > Texas
oh, lord, now you've gone and done it...
i think texas (university of) has a better record against OSU (.500) than michigan this decade, no?
oh, and we wiped y'all off of OUR shoe after the rosebowl a few years ago...
AND, we dont have anyplace in our entire state that is nearly the wasteland detroit is. ;)
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<pro-Michigan song>Wow. Never realized there was a song that praised Michigan. Now if only this state could live up to it.
Also, raise your hand if you read this thread and thought it was talking about the state and not the country.
Dude, it's talking about the University of. Sheesh, what are you, some sort of lilly livered Trojan?
And, for the record, Michigan > Every other state except Texas > something I wiped off the bottom of my shoe after walking through a manure and sewage plant > Texas
Oh, that was University Of Michigan's song? I didn't know that.
Also, I do like Michigan. I mean, that's mainly because I live here, but still, I like it. Just, blame the news. "Jobs Leaving Michigan", "More People Moving Away From Michigan", "Study Shows Two of Five Worst Citys In U.S. In Michigan". OK, that last one may not count scince those two citys weren't that good in the first place, but still. Things just aren't looking that good for this state.
and houston was just voted best city in america by a few sites...that would be houston, i dunno...TEXAS ;) (austin was # 3 or 4 in the same poll, btw)...
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Sebastian...what will we do with you? Your anti-Texas campaign will never work. Even trying to sell Texas to Canada for $2 flopped. Give it up, my friend.Is Texas still for sale at $2? I've been looking for some place to put up a few Mosques and drill for oil...
The Hegemony of Saxet (conveniently positioned on the north coast of Bannannaland)
Primary Resources: Sand, Rock, Oil Tar?
Ayyup. Cmon over and git her.
And, for the record, Michigan > Every other state except Texas > something I wiped off the bottom of my shoe after walking through a manure and sewage plant > TexasWell, other than the whole "news saying the economy going to Baator in a handbasket" deal, can't say I disagree with you. The weather's nice, the people are friendly, it's overall a good place.Well... the weather is not nice in Michigan. It gets the second least amount of sunshine, after Seattle (too bad for paizo). Factor in the lake effect on snowfall and you have a pretty dismal place as far as weather is concerned.
But, yes, the people who come from Michigan are far superior to other people. This includes Texans.
Okay, I concede your point on the weather. I remember a few years ago during marching band practice, it started raining. We didn't really care at that point, because we had to march in the rain a lot that year. Then, it started raining harder. Still didn't go inside. We had to march at games in that kind of weather, we might as well practice in that weather. Then it started to hail. It wasn't that noticeable at first, but then it started hailing harder and and . Okay, so we finally managed to finish the song. Wait, the director hasn't told us to go back inside yet. Okay, I'm starting to panic a bit since he is just the type of director who would have us keep marching through this stuff, and the hail was starting to hurt. Then he finally told us to get back inside. Then, half an hour later, there was a tornado watch. That year just had bad weather.
Now, can we please get back on topic? This thread should be about Russia invading Georgia-the-country-not-the-state, not Michigan's weather
i think texas (university of) has a better record against OSU (.500) than michigan this decade, no?
What is OSU?
AND, we dont have anyplace in our entire state that is nearly the wasteland detroit is. ;)
Detroit is a great setting for RPGs.
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Off topic, but...
Texas seceeds by 2088....just sayin'.
dude, what was up with the 100+ temp in austin today? it actually felt good to get back to houston!
the russians should, at some point, just come to the conclusion that they LOST the cold war, LOST the power to subject eastern europe, the ukraine, georgia, the baltic states (heck, latvia, lithuania and estonia, along with poland, all offered support to georgia yesterday in a joint proclamation). russia isn't winning friends and influencing people here, and it will eventually bite them in the a$$.
that would be ohio state university, the school who has made michigan their {female dog} over the last few seasons...What is OSU?
Too bad their in Ohio then.
They wouldn't last an hour downtown detroit.
Okay, looks like this thread has already devolved into a Michigan vs. Texas fight, I might as well contribute to it.
and houston was just voted best city in america by a few sites...that would be houston, i dunno...TEXAS ;) (austin was # 3 or 4 in the same poll, btw)...
You can't just compare two states based solely on comparisons of 2 cities from one state and the worst 2 from the other. I mean, we already knew Detroit and Flint sucked. Compare our 21 best cities with yours and we at least wouldn't be complete oppisites in the field of city quality!
Okay, looks like this thread has already devolved into a Michigan vs. Texas fight, I might as well contribute to it.
and houston was just voted best city in america by a few sites...that would be houston, i dunno...TEXAS ;) (austin was # 3 or 4 in the same poll, btw)...You can't just compare two states based solely on comparisons of 2 cities from one state and the worst 2 from the other. I mean, we already knew Detroit and Flint sucked. Compare our 21 best cities with yours and we at least wouldn't be complete oppisites in the field of city quality!
I think Flint is were Car-Jacking was invented.
I have been to Flint many times.
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Okay, looks like this thread has already devolved into a Michigan vs. Texas fight, I might as well contribute to it.
for the record, sebastian started it! nyah! ;)
i have no problem with michigan, well, other than their anti-business tax scheme and union dominated economy (but then, that's why we get more business investment money and toyota plants in texas, so y'all keep doing what you do!).
i just get tired of people dumping on texas, especially people from states being hit hard by a recession we barely register here.
take for instance my hometown. people don't realize that we have the highest density of theater/symphony seating in a central location outside of new york. we have the PREMIER medical center (not neccessarily the "best" hospitals, mayo clinic is excellent, for one) in the world, we have one of the largest and most expensive FREE art exhibits in the nation (menil collection), we were the first city to have a gay/lesbian pride parade (cultural diversity in a "redneck" state? surely i jest), we have the second richest zip code (behind bel air, california) in the country, second busiest port in the country, johnson spacde center, almost non-existent unemployment, very affordable cost of living, etc...
but we're just a bunch of hicks...
gets tiring after a bit...
... Compare our 21 best cities with yours and we at least wouldn't be complete opposites in the field of city quality!
Uh, I meant 2 best cities. I don't think Michigan even has 21 major cities.
Also, nothing I said in this thread is meant as an insult to Texas. The only Texans I hate are the stereotypical "Yee-haw! After I eat this exltemely large steak, I'll put on my ten-gallon hat, grab my absurdly large gun and shoot at a cactus, cause everything's bigger in Texas... except what I'm compensating for.
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It's cool; Sebastian's just messing with Texas because I live here.
He lives in California anyway, so....
that wasn't directed at sebastian, btw.
my first three posts were weak attempts at humorous responses to sebastians obviously hyberbolic posts, the last one was in response to what i percieved (perhaps erroneously) as a less humorous texas bashing.
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... Compare our 21 best cities with yours and we at least wouldn't be complete opposites in the field of city quality!Uh, I meant 2 best cities. I don't think Michigan even has 21 major cities.
Also, nothing I said in this thread is meant as an insult to Texas. The only Texans I hate are the stereotypical "Yee-haw! After I eat this exltemely large steak, I'll put on my ten-gallon hat, grab my absurdly large gun and shoot at a cactus, cause everything's bigger in Texas... except what I'm compensating for.
ok, i appologize for kinda going off then :)
Director of Game Development
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...we have one of the largest and most expensive FREE art exhibits in the nation (menil collection)...
I so f@@!ing love the Menil! I used to make the time to go there when I'd visit Houston. We'd roll into town for a punk show or something and I'd make sure that we'd get there in the afternoon so we could hit the Menil, record shops and thrift stores before the opener went on stage.
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...we have one of the largest and most expensive FREE art exhibits in the nation (menil collection)...I so f&@%ing love the Menil! I used to make the time to go there when I'd visit Houston. We'd roll into town for a punk show or something and I'd make sure that we'd get there in the afternoon so we could hit the Menil, record shops and thrift stores before the opener went on stage.
go to sig's lagoon over by the continental club, awesome little shop, and the owner, tomas, is a fixture in the music scene as well (formerly of los skarnales).
and, for decent "thrift" clothes, the corner of westheimer and dunvale rocks ;)
bad russians! boo hiss! (gotta keep it on topic!)
and i go by the menil a coupel times a month, live right down w. alabama from there.
btw, who is Booker?
Let's get down with the Russian paratroopers!!! I swear, "Army of One" has nothing on these guys!!
Who says white guys can't dance and wear berets at the same time!!