... who say that America deserved 9/11 and that God invented IEDs to punish us and that Katrina was sent to stop a gay pride parade in New Orleans, they'll continue to alienate people who have souls.Yeah! Especially those sick puppies that say things like, "China getting hit with an earthquake and killing thousands, that's karma, isn't it?" Damn sick people.They are not just in the US ya know! My mum holidayed in the peoples republic of Kanada visiting friends and the christmas message for the comming 2005 newyear was the "asians had that tsunami comming for not being christians".
The Christian fundamentalists are out of control. Considering String Theory invalidates Religion and Evolution I think we should deport them to Labour camps in Antartica - that way they can have fight club in the snow for food and we can have happy they are gone parties.
I was censored and threatened with a ban for a post similar to this. But since you are attacking Christians and not gays am sure you will be fine.
I was censored and threatened with a ban for a post similar to this. But since you are attacking Christians and not gays am sure you will be fine.... who say that America deserved 9/11 and that God invented IEDs to punish us and that Katrina was sent to stop a gay pride parade in New Orleans, they'll continue to alienate people who have souls.Yeah! Especially those sick puppies that say things like, "China getting hit with an earthquake and killing thousands, that's karma, isn't it?" Damn sick people.They are not just in the US ya know! My mum holidayed in the peoples republic of Kanada visiting friends and the christmas message for the comming 2005 newyear was the "asians had that tsunami comming for not being christians".
The Christian fundamentalists are out of control. Considering String Theory invalidates Religion and Evolution I think we should deport them to Labour camps in Antartica - that way they can have fight club in the snow for food and we can have happy they are gone parties.
Yeah, I remember that. The political leanings of those who work here are not difficult to figure out.
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... who say that America deserved 9/11 and that God invented IEDs to punish us and that Katrina was sent to stop a gay pride parade in New Orleans, they'll continue to alienate people who have souls.Yeah! Especially those sick puppies that say things like, "China getting hit with an earthquake and killing thousands, that's karma, isn't it?" Damn sick people.They are not just in the US ya know! My mum holidayed in the peoples republic of Kanada visiting friends and the christmas message for the comming 2005 newyear was the "asians had that tsunami comming for not being christians".
The Christian fundamentalists are out of control. Considering String Theory invalidates Religion and Evolution I think we should deport them to Labour camps in Antartica - that way they can have fight club in the snow for food and we can have happy they are gone parties.
Considering that many on the left consider any Christian who self-identifies as one and/or votes Republican a "fundamentalist," you'd be deporting well over half of the US population, and sizable chunks of the rest of the western world. Furthermore, not all of us are vicious, hateful whackos. I much prefer the "agree to disagree and put up with each other, no matter how irritating we find the other side" approach.
Furthermore, you're going to banish ME, and I've never done anything to you, and my WIFE, who you've never even met, and pretty much my entire family. Who's the hateful bigot here? If you're starting to consider rounding up huge groups of people and put them in concentration camps, you REALLY need to take a deep breath, step back, and calm down, because at that point, you will have become something truly monstrous. Believeing something hateful (or worse, saying something hateful you don't even fully mean in a fit of passion) should never be justification for a repeat of the Soviet gulags.
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Can't we just appoint an Emperor? A brave leader, charismatic and just?
Resolute and steadfast in his concerns for the citizenry? A leader worth following....
Yeah, because THAT has never gone south before. If anything, we need to set shorter term limits on EVERYBODY in government. Like maybe one four-year term for presidents and one six-year term for members of congress, and ban immediate family members of previous or existing leaders from serving.
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... who say that America deserved 9/11 and that God invented IEDs to punish us and that Katrina was sent to stop a gay pride parade in New Orleans, they'll continue to alienate people who have souls.Yeah! Especially those sick puppies that say things like, "China getting hit with an earthquake and killing thousands, that's karma, isn't it?" Damn sick people.They are not just in the US ya know! My mum holidayed in the peoples republic of Kanada visiting friends and the christmas message for the comming 2005 newyear was the "asians had that tsunami comming for not being christians".
The Christian fundamentalists are out of control. Considering String Theory invalidates Religion and Evolution I think we should deport them to Labour camps in Antartica - that way they can have fight club in the snow for food and we can have happy they are gone parties.
Considering that many on the left consider any Christian who self-identifies as one and/or votes Republican a "fundamentalist," you'd be deporting well over half of the US population, and sizable chunks of the rest of the western world. Furthermore, not all of us are vicious, hateful whackos. I much prefer the "agree to disagree and put up with each other, no matter how irritating we find the other side" approach.
Furthermore, you're going to banish ME, and I've never done anything to you, and my WIFE, who you've never even met, and pretty much my entire family. Who's the hateful bigot here? If you're starting to consider rounding up huge groups of people and put them in concentration camps, you REALLY need to take a deep breath, step back, and calm down, because at that point, you will have become something truly monstrous. Believeing something hateful (or worse, saying something hateful you don't even fully mean in a fit of passion) should never be justification for a repeat of the Soviet gulags.
You're talking sense. That never works with the 'dingo.
"Hey Dingo! Look out! There's 51 trolls with the banker template sneaking up on you! They have a briefcase with Marsalis Wallace's soul! They're gonna get you, dingo!"
Yeah, because THAT has never gone south before. If anything, we need to set shorter term limits on EVERYBODY in government. Like maybe one four-year term for presidents and one six-year term for members of congress, and ban immediate family members of previous or existing leaders from serving.
Feh. I want my Senator Feingold in there as long as I can keep him there and no misguided yahoo is going to tell me who I can't vote for!
Yeah, I remember that. The political leanings of those who work here are not difficult to figure out.I was censored and threatened with a ban for a post similar to this. But since you are attacking Christians and not gays am sure you will be fine.... who say that America deserved 9/11 and that God invented IEDs to punish us and that Katrina was sent to stop a gay pride parade in New Orleans, they'll continue to alienate people who have souls.Yeah! Especially those sick puppies that say things like, "China getting hit with an earthquake and killing thousands, that's karma, isn't it?" Damn sick people.They are not just in the US ya know! My mum holidayed in the peoples republic of Kanada visiting friends and the christmas message for the comming 2005 newyear was the "asians had that tsunami comming for not being christians".
The Christian fundamentalists are out of control. Considering String Theory invalidates Religion and Evolution I think we should deport them to Labour camps in Antartica - that way they can have fight club in the snow for food and we can have happy they are gone parties.
There isn't a 24 hour moderator dedicated to making sure everyone plays nice. If a post bothers you, you should make a complaint.
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I was censored and threatened with a ban for a post similar to this. But since you are attacking Christians and not gays am sure you will be fine.... who say that America deserved 9/11 and that God invented IEDs to punish us and that Katrina was sent to stop a gay pride parade in New Orleans, they'll continue to alienate people who have souls.Yeah! Especially those sick puppies that say things like, "China getting hit with an earthquake and killing thousands, that's karma, isn't it?" Damn sick people.They are not just in the US ya know! My mum holidayed in the peoples republic of Kanada visiting friends and the christmas message for the comming 2005 newyear was the "asians had that tsunami comming for not being christians".
The Christian fundamentalists are out of control. Considering String Theory invalidates Religion and Evolution I think we should deport them to Labour camps in Antartica - that way they can have fight club in the snow for food and we can have happy they are gone parties.
Here's a revolutionary idea: how about we all not attack any groups en masse on these boards (exceptions will be made for attacks on ACTUAL Nazis and other racial supremacist groups, violent felons and sexual offenders.)? I don't think gays deserve to be rounded up & exiled any more than Christians do. Because even among groups that I'd NEVER vote with (the Democratic party, for instance) I can find people whom I have common ground with (Zell Miller, Joe Lieberman) and people I may not agree with, but certainly don't think are bad people (Barack Obama).
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I'm pretty sure all that was said tongue-in-cheek, especially YD's comments. I doubt they meant any offense, and they certainly weren't serious. Pythonesque humor isn't everyone's cup o' tea...
Yellowdingo always means offense, and he was very definitely serious.
He has long since proven that he is one of those sociopathic Marxist types who believes in exterminating anyone who expresses the least concept in the way of political dissent. He has made that clear in multiple posts in the past.Why anyone would expect civil behavior from him at any point is baffling to me.
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Yikes. My last post is being quoted by the agents of discord!
Back, unhappy people! I'm having a good day and don't want to get any on me.
The only people who should be deported are people who think other people should be deported! "Give us your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free." Not "Give us your rich, fair-skinned, well-educated, english-speaking elite, yearning to exploit everyone else so that they can afford a seventh house in the country and a private jet."
Yikes. My last post is being quoted by the agents of discord!
THERE HE IS! GET HIM!
The only people who should be deported are people who think other people should be deported! "Give us your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to be free." Not "Give us your rich, fair-skinned, well-educated, english-speaking elite, yearning to exploit everyone else so that they can afford a seventh house in the country and a private jet."
Balderdash son, ah'm only trying to buy my fifth house, thankee very much.
If he can sell those water bottles at $50 a piece, then people are going to buy 1, 2 or 3, a small amount. If he has to sell them at $1 a piece, then the first people into his store are going to stock up, they can't know when they will get more water, so they may buy 10 or 20.
That's a great post! The only problem is that there's always some jaggoff with more money than brains, who would buy all 20 bottles at $100 apiece just to have them. People happily pay $500 for a bottle of Chateau Lafite, for example, and some buy several cases at a time -- even with no real limit in the supply except for how fast the winery can produce and age the stuff.
I agree with the logic behind people bringing in additional supplies, though -- I've seen it happen.
Yellowdingo always means offense, and he was very definitely serious.
He has long since proven that he is one of those sociopathic Marxist types who believes in exterminating anyone who expresses the least concept in the way of political dissent. He has made that clear in multiple posts in the past.
Why anyone would expect civil behavior from him at any point is baffling to me.
When has that behavior ever been quintessentially "Marxist"? Ideological monism crops up all over the political spectrum.
When has that behavior ever been quintessentially "Marxist"? Ideological monism crops up all over the political spectrum.
People always assume that their beliefs represent freedom and dignity, and that opposing beliefs therefore represent oppression.
Liberals label conservatives as "fascists," and cherry-pick examples (e.g., banning gay marriage, eavesdropping on civilians, torturing terrorism suspects) that they feel support that view.
Conservatives label liberals as "Marxists" or "communists," and cherry-pick examples (e.g., hate speech laws, socialized medicine, gun control) that they feel support that view.
G###*%n commies!
G%~*+*n commies!
Fascist running dog!
Liberals label conservatives as "fascists," and cherry-pick examples (e.g., banning gay marriage, eavesdropping on civilians, torturing terrorism suspects) that they feel support that view.Conservatives label liberals as "Marxists" or "communists," and cherry-pick examples (e.g., hate speech laws, socialized medicine, gun control) that they feel support that view.
Wishy-washy, even-handed weenie!
When has that behavior ever been quintessentially "Marxist"?
...his casual attitude towards the extermination of political dissidents.
Unfortunately, I'm sure we can all name some right-wing despots from history with the same attitude. They might have disagreed about the economy, but not about the value of human life.
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People always assume that their beliefs represent freedom and dignity, and that opposing beliefs therefore represent oppression.
Liberals label conservatives as "fascists," and cherry-pick examples (e.g., banning gay marriage, eavesdropping on civilians, torturing terrorism suspects) that they feel support that view.
Conservatives label liberals as "Marxists" or "communists," and cherry-pick examples (e.g., hate speech laws, socialized medicine, gun control) that they feel support that view.
Would that be like you assuming you know what my beliefs are and assigning a label to me?
G*$&#&n commies!Fascist running dog!
Mr. Dunn,
On behalf of my client, Mr. McOldGuy, hereafter referred to as The Plaintiff, I must request that you cease and desist using the term "running dog" to describe my client. The Plaintiff is an elderly gentlemen and requires assistance in the form of a cane to walk. He cannot "run" anywhere. Furthermore, your highly insensitive remarks have caused The Plaintiff considerable pain and anguish, as he is forced to recall his carefree days of being able to run through fields of flowers with his wife and beloved pet dog, Fido. Fido died several months ago, and The Plaintiff has not yet overcome his grief at this loss.
In future, I do hope you think more carefully before speaking such disparaging and thoughtless statements.
Thank you, and have a good day.
Sincerely,
Sir Spitsalot, Paladin-at-Law
Would that be like you assuming you know what my beliefs are and assigning a label to me?
More like assigning one to Dingo, actually. I don't know about yours.
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Regarding $50 bottles of water: letting market forces play also encourages hording and gouging at the selling end, in order to minimize supply and maximize profit. It's not so simple as you make it out to be. And yes, on the flip side, locking prices low can encourage hording on the buying side, I'm aware of that.
It's best to detatch disaster relief from economics as much as possible. Having relief get only to those with money is not a particularly equitable solution.
Now encouraging supply so that purchase is ALSO possible is good, but that's somewhat different than pure relief.
The pretense that market forces solve everything annoys me, as it is a form of intellectual dishonesty. Among other things, it relies on the assumption that the market won't be manipulated unethically. Pure capitalism, like any other pure system, doesn't work for crap.
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It's always interesting, as a person living in the People's Republic of Canuckastan (Canada, just a little old humour for everyone) to watch the American races, and how they have changed over the years.
Currently, in Canada, we have 6 political parties. 2 of them are a lot like the Democrats and the Republicans, and hold out for a large amount of the seats.
Currently, the Liberals (Can. Dems) are seen as a giant pile of duplicitous snakes (with some exceptions) run by an idiot.
On the other hand, the Conservatives (Can. Reps) are seen as a pile of idiots (with some exceptions) run by a sneaky, duplicitous oaf.
At one point, I'd have called myself Liberal. And one of the reasons was that I enjoyed the amount of money that was funded into public institutions. Yet now, the Conservatives are using this method. And while I don't enjoy the Conservatives environmental plans and some of their beliefs in how we should treat our gay or Muslim citizens, I do agree with most of their spending (save sending even more money to Québec to beg them to stay or keeping the East coast from it's oil reserves...)
It's an odd dichotomy: I enjoy the spending they are doing, but not the moral beliefs that they apply to law. On the flip side, I don't agree with the corruption of the Liberal party, but I don't have to worry about my neighbour or my friends being launched away on an iceberg due to their lifestyle.
Not to mention the other political parties are either crazy (NDP or the Bloc Québecois), useless (NDP, Green Party) or confusing (NDP, Marxist Lenonist party).
To make you feel better about the whole "just talk your way out of Iraq/Iran" thing that I've heard Obama talking about, one of our party leaders (NDP) thinks that talking to the Taliban (as a whole) would allow for peace in Afghanistan. Good ole Taliban Jack is his name now.
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The pretense that market forces solve everything annoys me, as it is a form of intellectual dishonesty. Among other things, it relies on the assumption that the market won't be manipulated unethically. Pure capitalism, like any other pure system, doesn't work for crap.
That is because there is no such functional thing as pure capitalism.
There is only capital based economics as regulated by a political system according to a philosophical system.What the Austrian school types call "laissez faire capitalism" is not the laissez faire capitalism described by Adam Smith, the guy who invented the concept.
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When has that behavior ever been quintessentially "Marxist"? Ideological monism crops up all over the political spectrum.
Constantly. Check some of his bizarre beliefs about D&D economics, or his casual attitude towards the extermination of political dissidents.
Hmm..
I keep up with yellowdingo's posts, and there's something you notice over time: he has a sincere and serious side (like when he's posted condolences and taken a moment to actually answer a game mechanics question), and he has his ridiculous side (like posting five screens worth of research-verified grain market and distribution data in 12th century western Europe, or why UFOs work--or spelling Canada with a K and deporting people to the Arctic).The problem with YD's posts is that many of them contain some comment or allusion that is guaranteed to immediately offend someone (I can't stand his 9/11 jokes), but if you take a breath, read the entire post, hang it up against all the other posts in the thread, you'll discover--he's making a joke. The humor is black, the tone is Python.
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THERE HE IS! GET HIM!Yikes. My last post is being quoted by the agents of discord!
Oh, look at all the nice people with the torches and pitchforks! They're shouting my name. Maybe they want to be my friends...
It is kinda amusing to hear Marxist preceded by sociopathic, since the basic philosophy is many, many times *less* antisocial than capitalism, being far more concerned with social justice and equality. Calling Marxism 'sociopathic' based on the acts of Stalin is like calling America sociopathic based on what we've been doing in Gitmo / Abu Ghraib / etc. Bad example, spoils the perspective.
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I'm pretty sure all that was said tongue-in-cheek, especially YD's comments. I doubt they meant any offense, and they certainly weren't serious. Pythonesque humor isn't everyone's cup o' tea...Yellowdingo always means offense, and he was very definitely serious.
He has long since proven that he is one of those sociopathic Marxist types who believes in exterminating anyone who expresses the least concept in the way of political dissent. He has made that clear in multiple posts in the past.
Why anyone would expect civil behavior from him at any point is baffling to me.
See if I invite you to the happy they are gone party.
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The pretense that market forces solve everything annoys me, as it is a form of intellectual dishonesty. Among other things, it relies on the assumption that the market won't be manipulated unethically. Pure capitalism, like any other pure system, doesn't work for crap.That is because there is no such functional thing as pure capitalism.
There is only capital based economics as regulated by a political system according to a philosophical system.
What the Austrian school types call "laissez faire capitalism" is not the laissez faire capitalism described by Adam Smith, the guy who invented the concept.
Perhaps we should divide everything up equally and deport people who refer to those who wont surrender up their share to those who want more than their equal share as horders off to Antartica. That way they can exploit all the Christians.
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That looks about right. In terms of U.S. politics I think all the states should simultaneously secede from the union. Smaller liberal democracies govern themselves better. We can all sign some pact of mutual defense and settle our occasional differences via college sports.
I think that's actually Obama's secret agenda, and he's just saying all that other stuff to get the party nomination.
Viva la Conch Republic!
Politics? Economics? I kill you, I survive. That is life.
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Hmm..
I keep up with yellowdingo's posts, and there's something you notice over time: he has a sincere and serious side (like when he's posted condolences and taken a moment to actually answer a game mechanics question), and he has his ridiculous side (like posting five screens worth of research-verified grain market and distribution data in 12th century western Europe, or why UFOs work--or spelling Canada with a K and deporting people to the Arctic).The problem with YD's posts is that many of them contain some comment or allusion that is guaranteed to immediately offend someone (I can't stand his 9/11 jokes), but if you take a breath, read the entire post, hang it up against all the other posts in the thread, you'll discover--he's making a joke. The humor is black, the tone is Python.
Perhaps when he calls you a terrorist for posting a dissent to one of his poorly thought out data dumps on medieval economics, or a plagiarist for using a forum but not producing the same sort of useless data dumps that he does, you will change your mind.
There is a point past which any comments become nothing but deliberately spewed venemous bile. That he tries to conceal that behind the occasional bit of black humor does not change said venomous bile to a joke.|
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That looks about right. In terms of U.S. politics I think all the states should simultaneously secede from the union. Smaller liberal democracies govern themselves better. We can all sign some pact of mutual defense and settle our occasional differences via college sports.
I'd be happy if this happened, but I'd VERY quickly relocate to a different state at that point. Illinois is suffocating in terms of personal liberty.
*snicker* Try living in Massachusetts sometime.
I'd be happy if this happened, but I'd VERY quickly relocate to a different state at that point. Illinois is suffocating in terms of personal liberty.
That looks about right. In terms of U.S. politics I think all the states should simultaneously secede from the union. Smaller liberal democracies govern themselves better. We can all sign some pact of mutual defense and settle our occasional differences via college sports.
The problem is where do you go to get personal freedoms anymore? I live in Texas and you wouldn't believe how socialistic it is getting here. I own a bar/billiards place where I live and you wouldn't believe the power the police have over you. They can search your business at-will, shut you down at-will, and arrest you at-will. It's totally nuts!
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The problem is where do you go to get personal freedoms anymore? I live in Texas and you wouldn't believe how socialistic it is getting here. I own a bar/billiards place where I live and you wouldn't believe the power the police have over you. They can search your business at-will, shut you down at-will, and arrest you at-will. It's totally nuts!I'd be happy if this happened, but I'd VERY quickly relocate to a different state at that point. Illinois is suffocating in terms of personal liberty.
That looks about right. In terms of U.S. politics I think all the states should simultaneously secede from the union. Smaller liberal democracies govern themselves better. We can all sign some pact of mutual defense and settle our occasional differences via college sports.
That's fascistic not socialistic. Socialists would be trying to nationalise your bar for the people.
That's fascistic not socialistic. Socialists would be trying to nationalise your bar for the people.The problem is where do you go to get personal freedoms anymore? I live in Texas and you wouldn't believe how socialistic it is getting here. I own a bar/billiards place where I live and you wouldn't believe the power the police have over you. They can search your business at-will, shut you down at-will, and arrest you at-will. It's totally nuts!I'd be happy if this happened, but I'd VERY quickly relocate to a different state at that point. Illinois is suffocating in terms of personal liberty.
That looks about right. In terms of U.S. politics I think all the states should simultaneously secede from the union. Smaller liberal democracies govern themselves better. We can all sign some pact of mutual defense and settle our occasional differences via college sports.
Yeah, maybe so.
That's fascistic not socialistic. Socialists would be trying to nationalise your bar for the people.
Of course, NAZI was an acronym for National Socialist Worker's Party... but they were fascists. So the terms maybe aren't as clear-cut as we'd like. Or, if you get too extreme in one direction, no one can tell the difference between you and far extremists in the opposite direction. Like in Pac-Man, when you go off one side of the screen and re-appear on the other!