Invisibility + Hand of the Apprentice


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Sorry! More HotA questions here. . . I'll be playing a rogue/wizard in our next campaign so I want to understand how certain abilities/conditions will interact.

If a wizard with HotA is invisible. . .is his weapon also invisible if he sends it from his person to attack, or does it "wink" back into view?

Can invisibility be placed on weapon itself and be used to sneak attack ?

Could this be coupled with a permenancy spell for a nearly constant easy source of delivering sneak attack damage?

Would you need Detect(see) invisibility active to do any of the above with HotA?

I would assume that anything that would apply to invisibility would also apply to greater invisibility.

Thanks for your cogitation in advance!


Sarhuin wrote:


If a wizard with HotA is invisible. . .is his weapon also invisible if he sends it from his person to attack, or does it "wink" back into view?

Can invisibility be placed on weapon itself and be used to sneak attack ?

Could this be coupled with a permenancy spell for a nearly constant easy source of delivering sneak attack damage?

Would you need Detect(see) invisibility active to do any of the above with HotA?

I would assume that anything that would apply to invisibility would also apply to greater invisibility.

In order:

1)From the SRD "Items dropped or put down by an invisible creature become visible; items picked up disappear if tucked into the clothing or pouches worn by the creature."

To me this says that once it is in the "hand" of the spell it again becomes visible.

2) I would have to say no. Attacking normally with an invisible weapon gives no benefit so neither should this example.

3) No for the reasons stated in #2.

4) I'd think no, but your DM may or may not apply penalties for attacking with a weapon you can't see, but that would be on a more individual basis.

Currently, the sneak attack benefit from invisibility occurs when the attacker is invisible, no matter the method by which he/she is attacking. Arrows, bolts, and thrown weapons all become visible when loosed and yet still apply sneak attack damage. Similarly, an invisible creature who picked up a weapon after the spell effect (and thus still visible) would also get the benefit. An invisible character holding a visible object could be pinpointed (what square they occupy) but would still get all the benefits of being invisible.

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