How do YOU say Kostchtchie?


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Paizo Employee Creative Director

SO!

We're in the home stretch here with the Pathfinder Campaign Setting hardcover. I'm currently working on the pronunciation guide that's going into the appendix, and there's one word in particular that is a little vexing to me...

Kostchtchie.

I know how I say it. But I'm having a hell of a time, for some reason, finding a pronunciation online.

But what about everyone else?

Liberty's Edge

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kostch-TEE-chee


cost chit chee. The advantage is simplicity.

Tossing in a side vote for ix it chat il

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

Well, in your Demonomicon article in Dragon #345, you write it as being pronounced (KOSS-chuh-chee).

The few times that big cold bastard was brought up around the table we mainly just mangled it until we saw that pronunciation.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Daigle wrote:

Well, in your Demonomicon article in Dragon #345, you write it as being pronounced (KOSS-chuh-chee).

The few times that big cold bastard was brought up around the table we mainly just mangled it until we saw that pronunciation.

Yup. And I'm thinking of now saying KOSS chuh chai.


James Jacobs wrote:

SO!

We're in the home stretch here with the Pathfinder Campaign Setting hardcover. I'm currently working on the pronunciation guide that's going into the appendix, and there's one word in particular that is a little vexing to me...

Kostchtchie.

I know how I say it. But I'm having a hell of a time, for some reason, finding a pronunciation online.

But what about everyone else?

I simply say "kost-chee."

However, I found an appendix of Grayhawk dieties with him in it, where the pronunciation was given as (KAHST-ch-chee).

Do I win a cookie?

Paizo Employee Managing Developer

Anyone out here in Paizoland speak Russian? That might help.

The Exchange

James Jacobs wrote:


Yup. And I'm thinking of now saying KOSS chuh chai.

now see thats how we always pronounced, I think the way it was in the dragon article sounds better though.

Paizo Employee Franchise Manager

KOST-ih-chee


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James Jacobs wrote:
Kostchtchie.

Gesundheit.

Sorry, but someone had to say it! :p

The Exchange

Daigle wrote:
Anyone out here in Paizoland speak Russian? That might help.

http://www.masterrussian.com/

http://www.alphadictionary.com/rusgrammar/

http://j2k.naver.com/j2k_frame.php/japan/www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=kos tchtchie


COAST-chee-ay. With a pretty slurred, drawled stop between the first and second syllables.

Of course, since I pronounce "barfly" as "BARF-lee" if I'm not thinking about it, the above should be taken with a grain of salt.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Coochie.

:)

Spoiler:
I can't believe no one beat me to it.


If I remember that old Dragon Magazine cover with him, it was pronounced;

Smash! Crunch! Ouch!

Liberty's Edge

Shadowborn wrote:

I simply say "kost-chee."

Me too, fully aware that its incorrect. Or "Kost che chee"

The Exchange

Cost chit chee


Names like this are the reason that I tend to rename things in my game. I had a b#&%~ of a time with some of the names in Savage Tide. Some of the names looked like someone had gotten drunk and slapped their keyboard. It's like alot of drow names.


Daigle wrote:
Anyone out here in Paizoland speak Russian? That might help.

Somebody summon Koldoon!

Kost-chuh-chee for the record. :)

The Exchange Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 6

I've always said it so it rhymes with "Goat Cheese", myself...


James Jacobs wrote:

SO!

We're in the home stretch here with the Pathfinder Campaign Setting hardcover. I'm currently working on the pronunciation guide that's going into the appendix, and there's one word in particular that is a little vexing to me...

Kostchtchie.

I know how I say it. But I'm having a hell of a time, for some reason, finding a pronunciation online.

But what about everyone else?

Depending on the situation I either pronounce it Coazch-Tchee

or Bob

Depending on the situation.

Sovereign Court RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32

Cos-TSCHE-Chi. Yeah, i don't know where that 'e' comes from either, but there it is.


Simple. I don't.

It's the same way I handle any big names I find hard to pronounce. The "Bob" rule of DMing. Sure, it may hurt immersion, but I have a pyro Menards manager and his ditzy 14 year old daughter in my playgroup. I need to keep their attention any way I can, and fancy names don't do it.

Dark Archive

I was thinking about this only a couple of days ago as I was revisiting, among other things, the Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth as prep for a campaign set in/around Irrisen.

As the name comes from Koschei I wanted to preserve the Ko- start to the name and the -she ending, so I've gone with a pronounciation based on that : Ko-stuh-she

If I didn't want to keep the Ko- and -she I'd probably go with: Kos-chuh-chee

The Exchange

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Mothman wrote:
Shadowborn wrote:

I simply say "kost-chee."

Me too, fully aware that its incorrect. Or "Kost che chee"

That's what I tend to do as well.


Kostchtchie

Hm.. Kas Tchyt Chyije

Someone mentioned Russian. What does this world have to do with Russian? Yes, I'm aware that his origin story is "inspired" by Koschei the Deathless.


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I pronounce it Throatwarbler Mangrove.

Liberty's Edge

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Say it "Pee Ka Choo" that'll sell some extra books to the younger genereation. :P


Kahs-tCh-Chee here. Or "Cottage Cheese" when trying to tick him off:p


Does anyone remember the episode of "WKRP" where Les Nessman pronounces "Chi-Chi Rodriguez" as "CHY CHY rod-ri-GWEEZ"? That's what this thread reminds me of.

Scarab Sages

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Dark Psion wrote:

If I remember that old Dragon Magazine cover with him, it was pronounced;

Smash! Crunch! Ouch!

Yep!, That's why, when someone asks "How do you say Kostchtchie?", my reply is, "Very quietly".

Liberty's Edge

James Jacobs wrote:

SO!

We're in the home stretch here with the Pathfinder Campaign Setting hardcover. I'm currently working on the pronunciation guide that's going into the appendix, and there's one word in particular that is a little vexing to me...

Kostchtchie.

I know how I say it. But I'm having a hell of a time, for some reason, finding a pronunciation online.

But what about everyone else?

I just want you to know that my players and I are incredibly grateful that you guys are putting a pronunciation guide in the game as well.

You wouldn't believe the arguments we've had on how to pronounce the names of various cities and monster.

Thank you!

---

For the record, I pronounce it koss-chuh-chee as listed in Dragon magazine.

Grand Lodge

I don't pronounce it. I just say "that guy who's name I can't pronounce."


It's kos-tsh-tshi


I'd probably try to pronounce it as "Kosh."

Scarab Sages

I always use to mangle the name too, but the Demonomicon pronunciation completely overwrote it. It's very fun to yell in an angry bellow.

KOSTCHTCHIE!!!!

Liberty's Edge

Cost-chi-chee!


Paizo Superscriber; Pathfinder Companion Subscriber; Starfinder Superscriber

I've always pronounced it as Kos Chet See myself. Sometimes I put a little extra Russian in the Chet making it more like ZChet.


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In my games, when my players have encountered Kostchtchie, they've always addressed him as, "AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"


Kost-CHI-Chee

Sovereign Court

eh in my opinion you're better of just respelling the dang name as every time my players come across a dificult name they just change it to something simpler. Even with a pronunciation guide they'll ignore it to say something simpler

while kost chic chee might be the closest to acurate (or whatever you use as a three part name)

players'll wind up calling it kotch key anyways so I'll just go with kotch key as my pronunciation.

Scarab Sages

COOL! Pronunciation guides rule!

My brothers and I had a 6 year debate on how to pronounce "lich"

Oh, and...

kaws-tchih-tchee


The figure is loosely based on Koschei the deathless, and that I could tell you how to pronounce (though, frankly, it's pretty self explanatory from the spelling). They added (for no apparent reason) some extra consonants ... that could have been simply a poor attempt at transliteration. Hard to tell.

I would go with Co (as in coworker) shay (ends like day) and forget about the nuances of pronouncing the russian sh sound correctly... a simple "sh" is close enough (technically, the "sh" is probably palatalized, which would explain the extra consonants, and means you should pronounce it as if your tongue was stuck to the roof of your mouth by peanut butter. I know, sounds crazy, but that's how my russian teacher taught me, and she's (quite literally) one of the best teachers of russian language in the country).

- Ashavan


I should note, my biggest frustration with the Dragon pronounciation guide is that they got the pronounciation of Baba Yaga wrong... so I'm really not trusting it so much with Russian inspired names.

- Ashavan

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder Adventure Path Subscriber

In my group it rhymes with "paizo."

-W. E. Ray

Silver Crusade

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As his name's a blatant rip-off of Koschei (KAWS-chei), I'd suppose Kostchtchie would be pronounced KAWS-ch-chei. KAWS-ch-chee and KAWS-ch-chai might work too, but I'd prefer the most literal pronunciation possible.


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Cost-kit-chee

Course for some reason my group pronouces 'drow' as 'cheese sandwich'

Scarab Sages

KAWS tchuh chiye (rhymes with "sky")

Liberty's Edge

I say Cootchie.

Like, cootchie-cootchie-coo.

I think he likes that.


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Koldoon wrote:
I would go with Co (as in coworker) shay (ends like day) and forget about the nuances of pronouncing the russian sh sound correctly...

In my uneducated opinion, I like this one because it sounds well-reasoned and easy to pronounce.

Also, I have a strong bias against proper names with several syllables in a row that don't contain vowels. Koldoon's pronunciation allows me to ignore a bunch of 'em.


IconoclasticScream wrote:
kostch-TEE-chee

I think that's how I pronounced it the first time I said it aloud from the first edition Monster Manual II. No idea if I had it right at the time, but that how I said it.

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