If you could make ONE change to the skills list, what would it be?

[Mosaic]

Lots of discussion on several threads about what the skills list should look like. My question is if you could make one change and only one change to the Alpha2 skills list, what would it be and why?

(Seriously though, just one. We all have lots of ideas but I'd like to see which of your many is the most important to you.)

For reference sake, here's the Alpha2 list:
Acrobatics
Appraise
Bluff
Climb
Craft
Diplomacy
Disable Device
Disguise
Escape Artist
Fly
Handle Animal
Heal
Intimidate
Knowledge (arcana)
Knowledge (dungeoneering)
Knowledge (engineering)
Knowledge (geography)
Knowledge (history)
Knowledge (local)
Knowledge (nature)
Knowledge (nobility)
Knowledge (planes)
Knowledge (religion)
Linguistics
Perception
Perform
Profession
Ride
Sense Motive
Sleight of Hand
Spellcraft
Stealth
Survival
Swim
Use Magic Device

[Mosaic]

For me, I think it would have to be pulling Search (Int) back out of Perception. It's the whole actively looking versus passively noticing thing.

[Weylin Stormcrowe 798]

Mosaic wrote:

For me, I think it would have to be pulling Search (Int) back out of Perception. It's the whole actively looking versus passively noticing thing.

Perhaps a general Investigation skill. Put Search and Gather Information together. Include interrogation in as well.

-Weylin Stormcrowe

[Spiral_Ninja]

Weylin Stormcrowe 798 wrote:

Mosaic wrote:

For me, I think it would have to be pulling Search (Int) back out of Perception. It's the whole actively looking versus passively noticing thing.

Perhaps a general Investigation skill. Put Search and Gather Information together. Include interrogation in as well.

Hm. I like that idea.

[PJSlavner]

Mosaic wrote:

For me, I think it would have to be pulling Search (Int) back out of Perception. It's the whole actively looking versus passively noticing thing.

I would take out Perception completely and break it back down into Listen, Search, and Spot. I know many people in real life whose ability to notice something via seeing and hearing are completely different, and not just because of being vision- or hearing-impaired.

[Matthew Morris]

Roll Concentration out of Spellcraft, and fold Autohypnosis into concentration.

As to the People notice things differently, a feat allowing a sensory bonus would take care of that.

Me: Wis 8 no ranks in Perception, +8 racial bonus to notice asian women :D

[Scribbling Rambler]

I would return Tumble to a separate skill. Tumble was already one of the more useful skills, and did not need to have other skills added to it. It was also most useful to those classes that could spare the skill points to spend on it (Rogue, Monk, Bard).

[Chef's Slaad]

I'm pretty happy with the skill list. However, I would love to see this change implemented

I don't have high hopes though.

[DeadDMWalking]

As much as I support pulling Search out of Perception, for me the biggest is taking Concentration out of Spellcraft.

Everytime I read over the skill description that manages to piss me off.

[Asgetrion]

For me it would be folding Fly into Acrobatics and merging Climb and Swim (and possibly Jump, too) into Athletics. Yeah, I know that's two changes, but both of them are equally important for me.

Oh, and I would add Perception (Insight) and Streetwise as skills, too.

[Asgetrion]

Matthew Morris wrote:

Roll Concentration out of Spellcraft, and fold Autohypnosis into concentration.

As to the People notice things differently, a feat allowing a sensory bonus would take care of that.

Me: Wis 8 no ranks in Perception, +8 racial bonus to notice asian women :D

Hah! You're pathetic -- I get +15 racial bonus on *that*! ;)

[Joey Virtue]

I would get rid of the fly skill i find it unneeded

I like the perception skill

[Ross Byers]

I'd change skill so that the ability modifier is based on the usage, not the base skill. This means that some heavily complimentary skills, like Bluff and Sense motive could be recombined. And Perception(Searching) could use int. Concentration could go back to Con based, even if it stays within Spellcraft (which DOES manage to make sense. It's just that its not simply 'concentration' anymore. It's your ability to successfully complete the spell despite adversity).

[DracoDruid]

Less skills:

Acrobatics (Balance, Tumble, Escape Artist (for tight spaces))
Athletics (Climb, Jump, Swim)
Animal Handling (Animal Handling, Ride)
Diplomacy (Diplomacy, Gather Info)
Dominance (Intimidate + Interrogate, Command)
Deception (Bluff, Forgery, Disguise)
Heal (Heal, Profession (Herbalist))
Knowledge (as is)
Languages (Speak Language (add use like Decipher script but for spoken languages), Decipher script)
Legerdemain (Sleight of Hand, Use Rope, Escape Artist (for bindings))
Mechanic (Disable device, open lock, craft(traps/locks))
Perception (as is in PF)
Perform (as is but combine all instruments and singing into MUSIC and comedy into oratory)
Self-Control (Concentration, Autohypnosis, etc.)
Spellcraft (as is (but without concentration) + Use magic device)
Stealth (Sneak, Hide, Shadow)
Survival (as is)
Trade (craft & profession, no need to separate those)
Warfare (Tactics, Strategy, Siege Engines, etc.)

Sorry, overread your introduction. Well, but I really think it should be this or some very similar list.

[DougErvin]

I would add the 3.0 Scry skill back into the list. Makes more sense than a Will save and changes it from a passive check on the object of the scry to an active check on the scryers part.

Doug