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I was just looking over the stats and noticed on the paladin.

Lay on Hands.
At Will (Special)
Special: You can use this power only once per day.

Why list it as "At Will" if it can only be used once per day?


Hard to say without seeing the post you're talking about. I believe they've said Paladins get Wis mod Lay on Hands a day. I'd classify that as per day. Maybe it's a typo?

Cheers! :)


Because as you go up in level, you can use it more often, I expect.


Thats... interesting. Not to be overly critical, but it seems odd that they've already got a "special case" power that doesn't really fit into one of the pre-packaged categories (At-will, Encounter, Daily). A friend of mine had a chance to flip through the book, so I asked him if the paladin received any more uses from leveling (the book has the stats for leveling the characters up to third level). Apparently not. It also doesn't mention the ability being based on the Wisdom modifier, but as its just a sampling of the rules I could see the writers leaving that out for simplification.


Umm.. where did the original post go, that I had responded to?

*scratches head*

EDIT:

And why does it have me listed as author?


It's good to be the king baby! ;)

Note that the DDXP Paladin has three uses a day, with a +3 Wis mod.

Cheers! :)


David Marks wrote:

It's good to be the king baby! ;)

Note that the DDXP Paladin has three uses a day, with a +3 Wis mod.

Cheers! :)

Makes sense. Still kinda strange to have separate power categories and then have one at 1st level that doesn't fit. But I guess you really can't jam everything into neat little packages, unless you wanna play Tetris.


Eh, I think Lay On Hands is going to be a Class Feature that all Paladins get. Notice that the Cleric's Class Feature Healing Word is usable twice per encounter. Warlord's Inspiring Word likely works the same. I think most exceptions to the general structure will be Class Features like these.

Its the exceptions that make us treasure the norm of course!

Cheers! :)


I think it means it takes up an At-Will power slot, but isn't actually an At-Will power.

For example, if you can choose 3 At-Will powers, 2 Encounter powers, and 1 Daily Power at first level, then Lay on Hands fills up an At-Will power, but can actually be used only once per day. It seems like a rather weak power compared to other At-Will powers I've read.

Hopefully this becomes clearer when the books come out.

BTW, here's the link for those who want to see the other character sheets from Keep on the Shadowfell.


Thank you for the link... that was the link in the original post, that I seem to have inherited.


Pathos wrote:

I was just looking over the stats and noticed on the paladin.

Lay on Hands.
At Will (Special)
Special: You can use this power only once per day.

Why list it as "At Will" if it can only be used once per day?

It has mostly to do with what kind of action the power is.

I beleive you get to use a standard attack and an "At Will" power each round. Where as the Daily power falls into the Standard action. This should allow you to heal with Lay on Hands and attack in the same round.

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Teiran wrote:
Pathos wrote:

I was just looking over the stats and noticed on the paladin.

Lay on Hands.
At Will (Special)
Special: You can use this power only once per day.

Why list it as "At Will" if it can only be used once per day?

It has mostly to do with what kind of action the power is.

I beleive you get to use a standard attack and an "At Will" power each round. Where as the Daily power falls into the Standard action. This should allow you to heal with Lay on Hands and attack in the same round.

Not really. At-will powers each have their action type indicated (just as encounter and daily powers do), and most of them are standard (the ones we've seen anyway).

You can use a standard, a move and a minor each round (and like 3.x can use a lower tier action type in place of a higher tier). Beyond that you have to read the power's description to see what type of action it is.

But as for your specific example, since Lay on Hands is a minor action (according to the D&D XP PC sheets at least), you could Lay on Hands and still use an attack power in the same round, assuming that attack power specified a move or standard action to complete.

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