Class Skill Bonuses


New Rules Suggestions


I have seen this idea on the board and I think Jason also commented on the subject postivly.

The idea is a bonus to class skills at every 4th level starting at second. Currently you get +3 to all your class skills you have ranks in what if this improved by 1 at 2nd 6th 10th 14th and 18th so it would look somthing like this

Level 1: +3
Level 2: +4
Level 6: +5
Level 10: +6
Level 14: +7
Level 18: +8

the great thing about this is we also get rid of dead levels now there will be no dead levels and is plus 8 to a skill at 18th level that big of change.

Please post thoughts

Liberty's Edge

I am of the opinion that you get a +1 to all skills at those dead levels you mention. It equates to a +5 total through the course of a characters career and gets rid of a major bone of contention for me with the rank system. 20th level characters who can't do basic adventuring things. (Ie. Climb, Jump(Acrobatics), Swim, and the like)

Dark Archive

If this is the plan, then do we need the +3 bonus at the gate? That sounds like a good plan for non-class skills, and a great boon at lower levels (no need for Skill Focus anymore), but my experience is one is already easily able to make most skill checks once you reach the "teen levels". What benefit would there be to gain a bonus to an already impressive skill check at that point? It looks kind of like overkill, unless the DCs for skills are going to be adjusted as well (and include uses previously referred to in the Epic book).

Dark Archive

SirTristin wrote:
I am of the opinion that you get a +1 to all skills at those dead levels you mention. It equates to a +5 total through the course of a characters career and gets rid of a major bone of contention for me with the rank system. 20th level characters who can't do basic adventuring things. (Ie. Climb, Jump(Acrobatics), Swim, and the like)

QFT. I completely agree with you, and it feels more consistent (+5 looks better than, say, +8). :)


Does anyone know if the +3 to skills is a bonus or count as actual ranks for the purpose of feats. IE do you have to be lvl 10 to have 10 ranks in a skill with a +3 bonus to that?

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