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Male Workaholic, level 10
Tarren the Dungeon Master wrote:


I'm joking. It's pretty much a bull rush but with different flavour.

Sad part is, I'd be willing to try it. Especially right now...I'd like to drop kick that hag back down into the well. ;-)


m other rogue/bard/ranger 1/2/1

That might be worth trying if there was some kind of cap for the well


Male Dwarf Transmuter 5

Yeah but be thinkin' o' the treasures down there.


Alex Martin wrote:
Tarren the Dungeon Master wrote:


I'm joking. It's pretty much a bull rush but with different flavour.
Sad part is, I'd be willing to try it. Especially right now...I'd like to drop kick that hag back down into the well. ;-)

\

She's not two or more size categories smaller. An ogre could drop kick a halfling. What's her name in RotRL? Medium characters could drop kick her. ... Mechanically it's redundant but the idea of a large character taking 'Improved Drop Kick' makes me smile.


Hey,

Would anyone be interested in DMing Lord Kerrigan through a few levels of the secret dungeon that he built a keep over? I'd like to start him at around 3rd level and just hack and slash him as a solo character against various nasties and build him up. I'm thinking just dungeon crawl ...


m other rogue/bard/ranger 1/2/1

Let me digest this for a day or so...first instinct is yes, but no time :( , but that is not in the true spirit of the Foray group...hardcore! I'll mull..it's doubtful

Scarab Sages

Male Human Expert 3/Cleric 3
Tarren the Dungeon Master wrote:

Hey,

Would anyone be interested in DMing Lord Kerrigan through a few levels of the secret dungeon that he built a keep over? I'd like to start him at around 3rd level and just hack and slash him as a solo character against various nasties and build him up. I'm thinking just dungeon crawl ...

You know I would love to help you but...

"I've got my country's five hundredth anniversary to plan, my wedding to arrange, MY wife to murder, and Guilder to frame for it. I'm swamped."

Seriously, I have enough on my plate PbP wise.


m other rogue/bard/ranger 1/2/1

How's this: when Kerrigan led his "40 true but untried men" he never made it to the Foeehammer spires, but coming across a ridge line with his junior officers saw the massed Shoanti forces preparing multiple assaults. He had no choice but to ride for the Chelaxian fort they had established on the site of some Thassilonian ruins (Kerrigan's Keep).
Now with hell on his heels He and his junior officers barely make it back to the fort (He's a sub-commander at this point) and the fort is beleagured in a sea of enemies. While they can easily defend the Fort from the crafty Shoanti, the barbarians set up a veritable city, around the fort, to wait them out. Now with no where to go, supplies that are being frugally rationed and watched over, begin dissappearing, and Kerrigan is put in charge of finding out where they are going, and he welcomes the diversion, as the hopes of getting out a message to the northerna arm of the Chelaxian army (camped above Kaer Maga) for succor, are slim indeed.

I'm going on the fort being up on sort of a raised mesa ala "Keep on the Borderlands" aa I thought your intention

2 pts.

#1 I need till about sunday to scrounge up some cool crawlidge

#2 I played my first 3.5 game in Sept, so DMing may be fraught with a few mistakes regarding CR and EL and other acronyms to numerous to mention...though I DMed 1st ed for many yrs

If someone comes through quickerer, I'll step down (I do enjoy a challenge, but not at the expense of fun)

Scarab Sages

Male Human Expert 3/Cleric 3

Concerning plans for our PCs. We need two days of training. That will leave us with a day and a half of food left in my pack. Water is not an issue at this point.

After leveling, the question is... do we try to fight the big nasty upstairs, do we see if the monster downstairs is edible, or do we send Hru out over the balcony to get us some fish or deer or something?

Also,I have been thinking about the pedestals. We might try standing on the runes in the other hall and see if that affects the items on the pedestals.


Male Dwarf Transmuter 5

Hit Points for Level 3: (1d6=5)

New Spells: Flaming Sphere, Spider Climb.

New Feat: Weapon Focus


Male Dwarf Transmuter 5

Leveled and ready fer the next challenge.


Amardolem wrote:

How's this: when Kerrigan led his "40 true but untried men" he never made it to the Foeehammer spires, but coming across a ridge line with his junior officers saw the massed Shoanti forces preparing multiple assaults. He had no choice but to ride for the Chelaxian fort they had established on the site of some Thassilonian ruins (Kerrigan's Keep).

Now with hell on his heels He and his junior officers barely make it back to the fort (He's a sub-commander at this point) and the fort is beleagured in a sea of enemies. While they can easily defend the Fort from the crafty Shoanti, the barbarians set up a veritable city, around the fort, to wait them out. Now with no where to go, supplies that are being frugally rationed and watched over, begin dissappearing, and Kerrigan is put in charge of finding out where they are going, and he welcomes the diversion, as the hopes of getting out a message to the northerna arm of the Chelaxian army (camped above Kaer Maga) for succor, are slim indeed.

I'm going on the fort being up on sort of a raised mesa ala "Keep on the Borderlands" aa I thought your intention

2 pts.

#1 I need till about sunday to scrounge up some cool crawlidge

#2 I played my first 3.5 game in Sept, so DMing may be fraught with a few mistakes regarding CR and EL and other acronyms to numerous to mention...though I DMed 1st ed for many yrs

If someone comes through quickerer, I'll step down (I do enjoy a challenge, but not at the expense of fun)

That's pretty close to Kerrigan's background.

He established a fort along the gorge wall but then took off on a bout of drunken adventuring with Rydak Highgrain and Sirap Hilltown (who now owns the Inn and 'The Old Mess Hall'). (His men were slaughtered by the group of cannibals except for one who had taken the 'Lone Wolf' feat. When that man awoke in the cold storage with the bodies of his men and the mushrooms he started eating the mushrooms. Eventually he was joined to the tribe and lost his mind. You met him.)

Kerrigan was restationed at Falcon River where he slept off a drinking binge while his men engaged in the Falcon River Massacre. Seeing what they had done, Kerrigan surrendered 100 Korvosan soldiers to a handful of Shoanti grandmothers his men had not yet killed. The terms of his surrender were that he adopt one of the children orphaned in the massacre, who, due to a clerical error (literally, a Irori cleric made an error), the child became named: Falcon River Massacre Warchild.

Kerrigan eventually built a fort over the remnants of a dungeon that Rydak Highgrain had told him about. This was around the time he quit drinking.


m other rogue/bard/ranger 1/2/1

Right! was he still in the service of Korvosa/Cheliax when he built the fort? I guess it's no matter (my flair for the dramatic was acting up again.) Supplies are disappearing and Kerrigan is the only one in position to investigate.

With respect to the Foray game: the big nasty has a bunch of Hobgobbos too so if we soldier on to find the throne maybe we can gain enough power to end the whole affair once and for all (and not in TPK) I have to go thru and figure my new level yet


Amardolem wrote:
Right! was he still in the service of Korvosa/Cheliax when he built the fort? I guess it's no matter (my flair for the dramatic was acting up again.) Supplies are disappearing and Kerrigan is the only one in position to investigate.

He was still a Korvosan soldier when he built the fort but kept what was under the fort a secret from the army. He used the wealth he extracted to buy the fort from Korvosa. I want to run him through the dungeons underneath just for fun.

Amardolem wrote:
With respect to the Foray game: the big nasty has a bunch of Hobgobbos too so if we soldier on to find the throne maybe we can gain enough power to end the whole affair once and for all (and not in TPK) I have to go thru and figure my new level yet

Both games are going quite well. There are a few big challenges and an imminant victory and then we make a decision as to whether we continue the game with exploration of the other spires or not.


Tarren the Dungeon Master wrote:
Both games are going quite well. There are a few big challenges and an imminant victory and then we make a decision as to whether we continue the game with exploration of the other spires or not.

Of course, that should be 'imminent'. Can you believe I teach English as a Second Language sometimes? ;-)

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Female Human(ish) DM 1 / Housewife 1 / Zany RPer 3
Sir Manfred VonFalkenburg wrote:

Sir Manfred again diplomatically shepherds the party up the stairway towards the balcony.

"This is like herding cats!" Thinks Sir Manfred with exasperation. "How does Lord Orlan do it? Especially Yin!"

*giggles lots* ..really I have no idea why but this post made me laugh a lot, which I really needed as I'm all ill with a cold!

Yin really doesn't take well to ever being told what to do, she is the sort that needs gently coaxing instead :P


MALE!! Dwarf!! Fighter Level 3

"Levelled up and ready to chop up some little nasties. Gotta any suggestions about our future directions?"


m other rogue/bard/ranger 1/2/1

The Dread cellar of Kerrigan's keep is taking shape or "Indigestion in the Bailey's Basement, the Burp files" could be a reference to Kerrigan's drunkeness (or IS IT...DUN DUN DUUUUUUNNNNN!)


Male Human 3rd Fighter
Amardolem wrote:
The Dread cellar of Kerrigan's keep is taking shape or "Indigestion in the Bailey's Basement, the Burp files" could be a reference to Kerrigan's drunkeness (or IS IT...DUN DUN DUUUUUUNNNNN!)

;-) I look forward to it.


Male Half-elf Rogue 3

Goblins attack us
Do we rescue the bugbear?
A difficult task


Male Dwarf Fighter 2 / Cleric 3
Kamris wrote:

Goblins attack us

Do we rescue the bugbear?
A difficult task

"Nice haiku. I had no idea elves or Shoanti be writin' such poetry..."

"As fer rescuin' the bugbear, I say we kill all the goblins and their hobgoblin-kin first. And we ask the bugbear's name later...if only ta find out why they be tossin' 'im over the edge."


Male Workaholic, level 10
Wicht wrote:


Also,I have been thinking about the pedestals. We might try standing on the runes in the other hall and see if that affects the items on the pedestals.

Whooo...sorry I've been out of pocket for the last few days. My workload exploded due to some emergencies; I've got a wicked head cold; and my car's transmission just went ka-put! Other than that, feeling fine really ;-)

I asked about this in the main thread when I tried something similar. I don't know if Tarren figured we didn't have time for me to get results; or nothing happend. Maybe it's a group effort.


I have yet to generate a few stat blocks, as yesterday (due to the fineness of the spring day) I didn't get much done. the thread WILL be up by tonight for lord Kerrigan


Well the thread is up anyway...I started trying to gimp up a map over the weekend but it was taking hideously long, so I went old school (where I belong) drew it up and snapped a quick shot with my webcam. I still have some stat blocks and such to do up but i wanted to get it rolling (Har!) GAME THREAD: Indigestion under the Bailey orr..

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Amar-DM wrote:
Well the thread is up anyway...I started trying to gimp up a map over the weekend but it was taking hideously long, so I went old school (where I belong) drew it up and snapped a quick shot with my webcam. I still have some stat blocks and such to do up but i wanted to get it rolling (Har!) GAME THREAD: Indigestion under the Bailey orr..

Love it. I'm going to do up Kerrigan tomorrow.


m other rogue/bard/ranger 1/2/1
Tarren Dei wrote:
Amar-DM wrote:
Well the thread is up anyway...I started trying to gimp up a map over the weekend but it was taking hideously long, so I went old school (where I belong) drew it up and snapped a quick shot with my webcam. I still have some stat blocks and such to do up but i wanted to get it rolling (Har!) GAME THREAD: Indigestion under the Bailey orr..
Love it. I'm going to do up Kerrigan tomorrow.

Take your time, as I have a few monsters to finish, and the week is getting crunchy already, but I must say I'm wandering around work with a big SEG on this lunchtime...know one here would guess it's from Critting on an Ogre...heh! I made that ogre my b&!+~

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Amardolem wrote:
Tarren Dei wrote:
Amar-DM wrote:
Well the thread is up anyway...I started trying to gimp up a map over the weekend but it was taking hideously long, so I went old school (where I belong) drew it up and snapped a quick shot with my webcam. I still have some stat blocks and such to do up but i wanted to get it rolling (Har!) GAME THREAD: Indigestion under the Bailey orr..
Love it. I'm going to do up Kerrigan tomorrow.
Take your time, as I have a few monsters to finish, and the week is getting crunchy already, but I must say I'm wandering around work with a big SEG on this lunchtime...know one here would guess it's from Critting on an Ogre...heh! I made that ogre my b@~##

You guys get the weirdest dice. They are like my son's lucky die -- it runs hot for him, cold for monsters.

Kerrigan's pretty much done. I think I got what I want him to be.


m other rogue/bard/ranger 1/2/1

I was taking all of our DM narrative and character commentary and pasting it into a word doc so as to have a record of all this rp goodness but I fell behind some where in the gorge and now it seems hopeless...as it was among some of the most tedious stuff I've done (the actual pasting not the game itself...though the paste does taste good!)


Male Workaholic, level 10
Amardolem wrote:
I was taking all of our DM narrative and character commentary and pasting it into a word doc so as to have a record of all this rp goodness but I fell behind some where in the gorge and now it seems hopeless...as it was among some of the most tedious stuff I've done (the actual pasting not the game itself...though the paste does taste good!)

That sounds cool. If you need a backup; send me your notes or give me a link and I'll try and add some more. I may fare no better than you; but just giving you the option. Cheers!


m other rogue/bard/ranger 1/2/1
Alex Martin wrote:
Amardolem wrote:
I was taking all of our DM narrative and character commentary and pasting it into a word doc so as to have a record of all this rp goodness but I fell behind some where in the gorge and now it seems hopeless...as it was among some of the most tedious stuff I've done (the actual pasting not the game itself...though the paste does taste good!)
That sounds cool. If you need a backup; send me your notes or give me a link and I'll try and add some more. I may fare no better than you; but just giving you the option. Cheers!

Soon as I figure out how, I will, been setting up wireless this weekend so the computer here is in chaos


Male Workaholic, level 10
Amardolem wrote:


Soon as I figure out how, I will, been setting up wireless this weekend so the computer here is in chaos

If it helps, you can send to:

Spoiler:

tservo3k@hotmail.com

In subject line, put in something like: FORAY Transcript from HRU/AMARDOLEM. Just so I know to look for it - I get a lot of junk mail and sometimes it becomes a blur if the subject line is too casual.


Male Workaholic, level 10
Kayos. wrote:
And again we have the 'where does Yin get all of these mystery books?' problem...

This may be a dumb suggestion, but if you are going to keep Yin as a mage and want to explain new spells, you could say that the spells are there all along - Yin just hasn't simply been aware of how they worked properly until now. Maybe the practical application of spells has opened her awareness (ie level) to new nuances that allows her to now master the written spells.

I used to be a physics teacher. I can tell you that sometimes when I taught my students certain ideas I would start by presenting the materials as written. They would often "not get it", even after explaning the mathematics behind it. After doing sample problems (sometimes lots and lots of them), and usually following up with experiments and physical examples, they would at least grasp the basic "how's." Then, as we moved on to another application, the material we had covered would seem more natural in terms or use and understanding - they would see how it fits in larger applications.

So, maybe upon reading through the books she already has - Yin comes to glean some further spell that she didn't understand. That by making gesture Y instead gesture X you understand the basis for fireball instead of just fireray. Then she realizes that page 27 in her book isn't just a random array of arcane scribbling - rather it's the basis for that spell.

This may be totally against what can be allowed - but assuming you're allowed to get more spells without finding more spellbooks - this is just my suggestion. Hope it helps.

Scarab Sages

Male Human Expert 3/Cleric 3
Alex Martin wrote:
This may be totally against what can be allowed - but assuming you're allowed to get more spells without finding more spellbooks - this is just my suggestion. Hope it helps.

I just assume that the Mage has been experimenting and meditating and as they suddenly have an insight, they jot it down in their book(s). They don't have to copy it from someone else. They could just be reinventing the wheel as they seek to truly understand the deeper mysteries of the arcane.

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I say the spell fairies come and visit her each night, whispering complex magic formulas in her ear... ;-D

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Female Human(ish) DM 1 / Housewife 1 / Zany RPer 3
NSpicer wrote:
I say the spell fairies come and visit her each night, whispering complex magic formulas in her ear... ;-D

With Yin that wouldn't be too much of a stretch. The fairies they visit at night, and they say.. "burn.. things.."

Thanks for all the suggestions guys :)


Kayos. wrote:
NSpicer wrote:
I say the spell fairies come and visit her each night, whispering complex magic formulas in her ear... ;-D

With Yin that wouldn't be too much of a stretch. The fairies they visit at night, and they say.. "burn.. things.."

Thanks for all the suggestions guys :)

Yin, do these fairies have horns and leathery wings?


Female Human - Shoanti Wizard - 4
Tarren the Dungeon Master wrote:
Yin, do these fairies have horns and leathery wings?

"Yes! So cute! Plus they don't ignore me when I suggest hugs!"


Male Dwarf Fighter 2 / Cleric 3
Yintarah Fireweaver wrote:
"Yes! So cute! Plus they don't ignore me when I suggest hugs!"

"Hunh! True demons and devils they be then!" ;-D


Female Human - Shoanti Wizard - 4
Orlan wrote:
"Hunh! True demons and devils they be then!" ;-D

*pout*

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Female Human(ish) DM 1 / Housewife 1 / Zany RPer 3
Fabesminis wrote:

ALERT ALERT!

I shall be away from the boards from 24 May to 2 June.

THAT IS ALL, CITIZEN.

Copied form my AoW discussion thread as I just realised Fabes didn't post it to this thread!


Kayos. wrote:
Fabesminis wrote:

ALERT ALERT!

I shall be away from the boards from 24 May to 2 June.

THAT IS ALL, CITIZEN.

Copied form my AoW discussion thread as I just realised Fabes didn't post it to this thread!

Does someone want to run him or shall I NPC him?


Female Human - Shoanti Wizard - 4

..and Kamris decided he'd give Yin lots of hugs and let her go first in the party marching order becuase that wold make her happy and smilesome again..

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Yintarah Fireweaver wrote:
..and Kamris decided he'd give Yin lots of hugs and let her go first in the party marching order becuase that wold make her happy and smilesome again..

Umm...yeah...am I the only one thinking Yin probably shouldn't run Kamris in Fabes' absence? ;-D

Seriously, just NPC him for us. I think that would be fine.

My two-cents,
--Neil


Female Human - Shoanti Wizard - 4
NSpicer wrote:
Umm...yeah...am I the only one thinking Yin probably shouldn't run Kamris in Fabes' absence? ;-D

You're no fun! I'm sure it'd be fine if I helped run him! ...Fabes might sulk, but it'd be worth it!

In seriousness though, yeah I say go for NPCing him for us.


Male Dwarf Transmuter 5

4th Level hp: (1d6=4)

Which, wit' Con and Toughness be givin' me 48 hp. Not bad fer a puny wizard. :)


Male Dwarf Transmuter 5

Alright, think I'm done. Scorching Ray and Bull's Strength are my new spells. Intelligence is higher, skills are improved, school power is spider climb 1/day.


m Half-orc Cleric/Barbarian 4/1

I'm going with cleric, it was a tough choice, as there's some cool rage powers, not to mention d12, but now I'll channel 2d6 (and damage undead that much.) hp roll (1d8=5) I'll take it

I thought I might get my con pt back but that's not lesser resto.....Garn!!


Male Workaholic, level 10

OK - here's a question for all involved - with final ruling by our GM, I would suppose. I am once again looking at the rogue option of:

**Combat Trick: A rogue may gain a combat maneuver feat in place of a rogue talent.**

Since I'm assuming this means one of a certain number of feats, I am considering Improved Trip. The requirement however is Int 13 - which I don't have. Does the class option overide this condition, or does it just mean it's a feat I could have if I meet the prerequisites. I suppose I could increase my Int ability to 13 to meet this, but was kind of hoping to use it in Con instead.

Any thoughts on this, or am I overthinking it?


Alex Martin wrote:

OK - here's a question for all involved - with final ruling by our GM, I would suppose. I am once again looking at the rogue option of:

**Combat Trick: A rogue may gain a combat maneuver feat in place of a rogue talent.**

Since I'm assuming this means one of a certain number of feats, I am considering Improved Trip. The requirement however is Int 13 - which I don't have. Does the class option overide this condition, or does it just mean it's a feat I could have if I meet the prerequisites. I suppose I could increase my Int ability to 13 to meet this, but was kind of hoping to use it in Con instead.

Any thoughts on this, or am I overthinking it?

They wave the prerequisites for Ranger and Monk but not for a rogue. Odd. Let's allow it and hope it is clarified in Beta.

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Did you indicate at some point the "Last Seen" group would be leveling up again? I'm inclined to finish this Azubal encounter if we can bag him. But if we're chasing down a dead-end, we can stop and level, if necessary. Just thought I'd ask in case that was the plan all along...

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