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Liberty's Edge

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Priest/Maiden/Sabbath/Ozzy/Dio
no Van Halen

Had No Remorse
Rainbow, Purple, and Gillen Glory Road....

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5
Heathansson wrote:


Had No Remorse

Aha! The leather-bound double LPs that stank up the whole room! Great, great album.

The other stuff sounds very familiar. Maiden, Priest, Accept, Helloween, Ozzy and Black Sabbath, AC/DC and Def Leppard. My dad actually gave me some Sweet and T. Rex tapes!

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5

fox on the run...heh heh

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

My dad's a fairly square guy, so imagine my surprise when he dug up those, as well as Cheap Trick's Live at Budokan...

dungeonmaster heathy wrote:
I'm liking Finntroll. I don't understand what I'm seeing or hearing, but that's nothing new.

Fear the ancient mushroom! This one is pretty nice as well.

I saw them live in Sweden in 2002; sadly, I couldn't find any clips from that show online. It was an odd show, lots of costumes and facepaint.


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

far out!

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

You might like Korpiklaani as well. I understand Finntroll's lyrics; these guys, on the other hand, sing in Finnish, so I have no idea what's going on here...

More on folk metal here.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5

So, finntroll sings in Swedish, ergo Swedish and Norwegian are pretty interchangeable I take it?

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

Swedish and Danish is essentially the same language (Norway was part of Denmark for 400+ years, a period known in Norway as "The Long Night") - I'd say those two languages are no more different than the English spoken by a New Yorker and a guy from the deep South. I'd say Swedish is 85% similar to Norwegian and Danish, the main difference being that Sweden oriented towards France, Denmark towards Germany and Norway towards England. So the loanwords and linguistic imports are a bit different, but the cores are quite similar.


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Heathansson wrote:

Priest/Maiden/Sabbath/Ozzy/Dio

no Van Halen

Had No Remorse
Rainbow, Purple, and Gillen Glory Road....

Pretty much everything here but Gillen Glory Road (that's a new one on me). Also did the older stuff: Zep/Doors/Floyd-lotta different acid psychadelia. Plus the smaller stuff: Junkyard/Faster Pussycat/Mercyful Fate

Come the Nineties got into the Grunge thing bigtime plus weird bands like Mr. Bungle.

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

We're off to San Diego for some vacationing from Friday until next Sunday. I might check in occasionally from an internet cafe, but I'll mostly be offline.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5

Right on; good times!

I had some Mr. Bungle/Faith No More/Alice in Chains and whatnot.

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

I got into the harder stuff around 1989 or so through some odd circular logic - my school had a lot of Guns'n'Roses fans, and since I thought they were a bunch of losers, I had no interest in the whole GnR thing and went with the thrashers instead. It was a short step from Metallica's Ride the lightning to Slayer's South of Heaven to Exodus' Fabulous disaster to Dark Angel's Darkness descends... and all of a sudden I'm listening to Napalm Death, Obituary and German speed metal. That escalation happened really fast.

These days I think Appetite for destruction is a great record. However, those old GnR fans in the A, B and E classes are still losers. ;P

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5

I getcha; A for D is one of the all time greatest albums ever.
Not a dud on that one.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5
Vattnisse wrote:
We're off to San Diego for some vacationing from Friday until next Sunday. I might check in occasionally from an internet cafe, but I'll mostly be offline.

You're talkin 10 days, right?

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

10 days, yes. I have an online job interview on Monday, so I'll be around that day (I guess I'll have to buy daily internet access on the hotel), but it'll be a bit spotty otherwise.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5

Right on.

Good luck with that, man.


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Heathansson wrote:

I getcha; A for D is one of the all time greatest albums ever.

Not a dud on that one.

Yeah that was pretty much my 87-88 soundtrack. I was doing old Skool Seventies stuff until college, then I flirted with the college bands: REM/U2/Van Halen for parties =P. Then outta college hung with the hair metallists and did a lot of Mettallica/Testament/Maiden/Ozzy etc. etc. Started hanging at Boston clubs just as 91 kicked in and the Grunge scene washed hair bands into their graves. 92 I was all about Alice in Chains/Red Hot Chilli Peppers and Nirvana.

Been pretty confusing since. Now I listen to a lot of crap. I can even figure out what I like anymore, except I really dislike Country for some reason. Hmm, except for CDB and Cash of course. Oh and some old Merle Haggard.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5

I listen to what ever.

In high school, my friends totally demolished a Sweet single of "Love is like Oxygen" because it was .....well....Sweet, but I'm down for whatever.

Liberty's Edge

Male Mothman Expert 5

My tastes in music have always been pretty wide ranging. In high school I was right into grunge (Nirvana, Pearl Jam, the Chilli Peppers etc) but was also listening to older stuff (The Beatles, Simon and Garfunkle, The Stones, David Bowie) and a range of ‘alternative’ and semi-mainstream music (REM, Tori Amos) and a bit of metal (Metallica mainly). Then came Smashing Pumpkins and that whole post grunge scene.

Late high school / early university I was into the Goth and Goth/Punk/Industrial scenes for a while, didn’t really stay with that for long, but some of the music (in particular Tool) really resonated with me and stayed with me for a while.

Early – mid university years I was listening to a lot of Brit-pop (Oasis, Blur etc), a lot of Aussie alt-rock (Powderfinger, The Superjesus, Spiderbait, The Mavises etc). Drifted from the goth club scene to the retro club scene to the general dance club scene, got into a bit of electronic and trance. From there I started listening to a bit of British trip-hop like Massive Attack and Morcheeba.

Late university I was still listening to all of that sort of stuff and its natural progressions, kind of dabbled with mainstream pop, rap and RnB (I was dating this girl ...) the pop didn’t really stay with me in a big way, but via that I kind of got into the alternative Australian rap and RnB scenes a bit – not my favourite genre but some of it is quite good.

Some time during the university years I got into At The Drive-In, that sort of lead me into that experimental rock scene, including Muse and a little later (and much preferred) The Mars Volta.

Nowadays I kind of listen to a lot of the stuff I liked back when, and things that are the natural progression of all those influences and bands – a pretty wide range of stuff.

As far as the metal goes, there’s some I like, some I don’t. I got into the sort of fast punk and thrash metal a bit coming off the goth phase, and a bit into some of the hardcore stuff, but stuff like Metallica is probably more my pace these days.

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5
Heathansson wrote:
In high school, my friends totally demolished a Sweet single of "Love is like Oxygen" because it was .....well....Sweet, but I'm down for whatever.

Dude, "Love is like oxygen" is awesome. Sure, the falsetto vocals are a bit meh, but listen to that riff!


Wow,... I'm so bland compared to all of you! ;)

In HS (80's) I listened to mostly Christian Rock, and classical.

It wasn't until the 90's that I realized I had missed a lot of good (or at least fun) stuff! ;P

I still mostly listen to classical, show tunes, etc, but also enjoy the variety that is 'Streaming SOundtracks.com' (Once, I heard COnan the Barbarian, Star Wars, The A-Team, and Elmo all in the same hour! What's not to love?!?) :D

I actually enjoy a variety of music, (Thx for the intro to Finntroll!) but when I make my selections for the car (NOT influenced by children under 12!) I tend to stick to 'adult' show tunes (Spamalot & Evil Dead-The musical) or classical for those long trips! :)

Yeah,... it sounds lame when I read it too! :P

The Exchange

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I used to watch Top of the Pops, mainly as background while I was a teenager, but had no particular musical tastes as such, and I'd always been pretty contemptuous of some of the more tribal aspects of music fandom which some of my contemporaries engaged in (and still am - a curious mixture of innate conservatism, stand-offishness and non-confirmism). However, I remember (very clearly) a particularly beautiful black lady from the band Loose Ends (circa 1986) appearing on TotP and gyrating fascinatingly (she was over six feet tall and "well-proportioned") and so I immediately plunged into a brief soul phase (which was really a well-proportioned beautiful black women phase). While listening to Dave Lee Travis on Radio 1 (waiting for the records of well-proportioned beautiful black women to come on) he played Steely Dan's Rikki Don't Lose That Number. I seriously enjoyed that song - I remember the instrumental break at the end of each verse before the (maybe just four beats of music) completely knocked my socks off with (what I now know is) a lovely riff moving in fourths and flattened fifths over a blues scale.

At roughly the same time, having vaguely liked some jazz I heard on Radio 3, my mum happened upon a jazz piano course at a local college on a Saturday and I went on that, which taught me some basics around music theory and its application to jazz and (more broadly) popular music. The tutor suggested we listed to a lot of jazz and that is what I did, while still enjoying some of the "better" pop music (most of which was NOT contemporary with me). I played in some jazz bands at college and after, but never (to my chagrin) never played in a more pop-y group (since my own compositions, such as they were, tended to be songs rather than jazz tunes). But the jazz meets Steely Dan (who were pretty much meeting jazz without my help) defined my musical tastes for that period.

The whole music thing gradually faded away for me, though I guess my musical tastes are pretty broadly defined now - jazz and what I consider "well-written" songs (which for me means interesting harmonies, good arrangements, a decent tune and preferably all three - in other words, something well-crafted which tends to be non-generic, but ultimately veers towards stuff like Steely Dan, still, in my opinions, the absolute masters of the three-verses-plus-optional bridge school of songwriters, at least based on the best of the their stuff from the Seventies). But I don't really listen to much stuff specifically as I tend to listen more to Radio 2 with Andrea (a former rocker know converted - and not be me - to Barry Manilow) in the car.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5

I dig jazz.

I seen Sam Rivers live in Gainesville, Fl.

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

Heh. Our hotel sells internet access for $10 per day or $25 for a week. So since I needed two days on, I signed up for a week... Looks like I'll be around, after all.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5

heh heh...


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Oh and re: music. I am a sucker for female singers. Dunno why, just love to hear a woman sing (well that is. Courtney Love or Yoko Ono don't count). Big fan of Florence & the Machine right now.


RE-Dot!
(Or, "Where oh where have my little dots gone?",...)

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

More awesome internet time-wasters: this is pure genius.

Liberty's Edge

Manwolf Werewoof testing upper middle class twit 5

well my daughter did have a hankerchief on her head like the "oyyy think" guy.

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

There's just so much stuff on that site... Still, this one is an early favourite. The LotR category's good too.

Liberty's Edge

Male Mothman Expert 5
Vattnisse wrote:
There's just so much stuff on that site... Still, this one is an early favourite. The LotR category's good too.

Ha!


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

Gone with the Windu....heh heh!

Liberty's Edge

Male Mothman Expert 5

They're all gold.

I just hope Nien Songs doesn't include an oral sex scene. That would be wrong.

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

I'd watch this. Or maybe not.


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

hell yeh.


I would SO watch it! ;P

(Although, I might not ADMIT it!) :D


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

cool hand jean luc

"wot way hayve heeyuh.....is uh fayyer tuh comu'cate...wi thu sheeyip."


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

Lock, Spock, and two smoking Barrels


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

for Pat; here's one of them Yggdrasil squirrelpeoples; it's on this page 8

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

Nice! That Creature Spot website is a treasure trove.


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dungeonmaster heathy wrote:
for Pat; here's one of them Yggdrasil squirrelpeoples; it's on this page 8

Noice! Like that site!

FWIW, I will be very occupied this weekend, but I might get to pop in, time willing. Pip will default haste and +3 yodel should we get in a brawl ...


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

Today sucked all of the blood out of my body through my a*$$+**.

Liberty's Edge

Male Mothman Expert 5

Sounds painful.

Today was an ass vampire. (sort of like Twilight maybe?)


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

Yeah. Alot like that.

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5
dungeonmaster heathy wrote:

(LOL)
I keep reading that thread title in the last 10 that says "What does the DM do when the pc's are just dumb....."
then I think, "well, I reckin it can't be any more challenging than when they're reeeeeeeeely smart...."

JAH! WE SMRT!!!

Um, in all seriousness... I think it would be harder to have a bunch of oblivious dumbasses as players. It gets old really fast to have players who don't pick up hints, can't concentrate or has no interest in anything other than fighting, but at the same time can't get the fighting rules right.

Hell, I like to think we're all pretty much on the ball, and you can still keep us all happy by throwing fights at us.


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

*scoops out a scoopful of wupass to slop the p.c.'s with*

Liberty's Edge

Male Mothman Expert 5

I feel like a dumbass occasionally in the real-life game I play in. Our GM has this really intricate plot with about half a dozen different groups who (might be) working against us (and / or each other) with all these agendas and goals that we don’t completely understand. We keep finding people who we think are allies then they turn out to be enemies (maybe) and people we think are enemies turn out to be allies (maybe). There are prophecies and counter prophecies, things exploding for no discernable reason, various people impersonating each others' hidden identities etc.

My only consolation is that when I’m confused, the rest of the group seems to be too. We have this fallback position that when we have no idea what’s going on or where to go or what to investigate next, we’ll wonder around town for a bit and wait for someone to attack us, defeat them, and then interrogate them as to why they attacked us. You know what, it usually works.


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

I think you've figured out how to WIN at Dungeons and Dragons. ;)
I think I can tend to fit that mold a lot of times. I can't even keep track of it all half the time.....


I AM THE LORD OF ALL HELLFIRE!!!!!

welp...you guys haven't fought a dread wraith yet.

And from looking at 10th to 17th level adventures of late,.....it seems like it's a truly required monster for some damn reason.....

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!

Grand Lodge

Male Human Expert 5

Dread wraiths... Huzzah... :( How 'bout some 12-headed half-fiend pyrohydras? Hordes of demonic ethereal marauders? The possibilities are endless, I tells ya.

I just read that "dumb PC" thread. Those of you who haven't - don't go there. It's the usual coterie of jerks and twerps yelling at one another for no good reasons. Depressing.

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