I can't believe you guys don't have a James Bond thread either....
I do like Daniel Craig as the new Bond. :)
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I do like Daniel Craig as the new Bond. :)
I was all set to dislike Casino Royale and then they had to go and make argueably the truest adaptation of one of the original novels to date. He was a very good Bond and though I like abrupt ending of the book just a little better, I really, really liked the movie.
I do like Daniel Craig as the new Bond. :)I was all set to dislike Casino Royale and then they had to go and make argueably the truest adaptation of one of the original novels to date. He was a very good Bond and though I like abrupt ending of the book just a little better, I really, really liked the movie.
I had mixed feeling on the move primarly because it ventured away from the typical recipe. I saw it in the theater (it is a requirement to see a Bond movie on opening night). I liked it better on DVD mainly because I knew what to expect. I'm hoping the new Bond movie coming out in November will be closer to the others in flavor. For those who haven't heard, Daniel Craig returns and the movie seems to pick up about 2 minutes after the last one left off.
My favorite Bonds to date:
Sean Connery and Pierce Brosnen (pretty much a tie), each beats the other out in certain areas.
I have quite a collection of James Bond; I love the cd of James Bond theme songs too and have read many of the books and really I like all the actors who have played James, they all have brought something to the character.
I had mixed feeling on the move primarly because it ventured away from the typical recipe.Have you read any of the books?
I always enjoyed the movies but hated that they were more pulpish than the books (at least the early books of which Casino Royale is, truth be told, my favorite).
No I haven't read any of the novels. I'm primarly a non-fiction reader. I seem to enjoy text book reading more. The books I tend to buy other than gaming/comics include subjects like on the roman empire, archeology, palentology, mythology, that sort of thing. I'm sure if I read them I would find it enjoyable.
My Bond collection includes all of the movies, about 10 CDs, and photographs on the wall I put up in the gaming room when we play Top Secret/S.I. I switch the room around when we play D&D.
Pierce Brosnan was cool in The Matador.
Missed that one.
Cool...I didn't say "grok." Might piss somebody off or something.
I think just for this thread you should see if you can keep up your humor and at the same time talk like Bond. You want to try?
Cool...I didn't say "grok." Might piss somebody off or something.
I know a barbarian name of Korg who kills anyone who dares utter his name sounded out backwards. I think that overeaction owes to some kind of early man type fear of mirrors or somethin'...
That is so totally him. Good thing he doesn't read forums, or anything else for that matter.
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*sigh* Diamonds are Forever will always be my favourite. lots of humour, over the top villians and plots, and Jill St. John.
I liked Casino Royal both for the 'Bond, Newbie Bond' parts and the chemistry between Daniel Craig and Judy Densch.
I also liked how you didn't get the Bond theme until the very end of the movie, really left me with the impression that he had 'Graduated' into the Bond we know.
*sigh* Diamonds are Forever will always be my favourite. lots of humour, over the top villians and plots, and Jill St. John.
I liked Casino Royal both for the 'Bond, Newbie Bond' parts and the chemistry between Daniel Craig and Judy Densch.
I also liked how you didn't get the Bond theme until the very end of the movie, really left me with the impression that he had 'Graduated' into the Bond we know.
Interesting post: Diamonds are Forever (at the time) allowed Sean Connery to be the highest paid actor. The movie didn't do as much for me however. Of the Sean Connery films, I liked Thunderball, You Only Live Twice, and Goldfinger the most. With Pierce Brosnen, I liked all of them, but Die Another Day stood out as my favorite Bond film overall. With Roger Moore, I'd have to go with A View to a Kill and For Your Eyes Only. These two movies in my opinon had the best lead songs ever!
I like Judi Dench as "M" better than the others.
I know its horrible, but I have yet to see Casino Royale. I've heard nothing but rave reviews, and I want to, but I just haven't yet.
I love all of the Sean Connery Bond movies, except the bizarre "aging" bond movie that he made after Roger Moore took over the franchise.
As far as Roger Moore goes, I used to like him as Bond when I was a wee tyke, but as I got older, he started to get on my nerves. His worthiness to be Bond aside, I do love Live and Let Die and The Man with the Golden Gun. And for the record Jane Seymour is probably my favorite Bond girl ever.
On the other hand, Moonraker, A View to a Kill, The Living Daylights, and License to Kill were definitely my least favorite in the series. (Sorry Eileen)
Despite both of his movies being on the "worst" list for me, I actually didn't think Timothy Dalton was a bad Bond. The problem was that Timothy Dalton inherited the "we don't know what to do with Bond" era scripts that marked the end of Roger Moore's tenure.
Goldeneye is my favorite of Pierce Brosnan's movies, but its also among my favorite Bond movies in general. It just felt like they really had an idea of what they wanted to do again, had some good ideas, and weren't afraid to make Bond act like Bond.
I do think that they may have started to run out of steam on the whole new world order paradigm shift for Bond toward the end of Brosnan's era, but I don't think his movies quite felt as flat as the last two Moore or the Dalton movies did.
All of this, again, reminds me I need to pick up Casino Royale.
Oh, and I agree that Judy Dench as M is a great casting move. I rather like John Cleese as Q as well.
I know its horrible, but I have yet to see Casino Royale. I've heard nothing but rave reviews, and I want to, but I just haven't yet.
Eileen said:
Your right, this is horrible. How do you sleep at night? The movie is a very differnt Bond film. It doesn't have much for gadgets, the chase scene towards the beginning is INCREDIBLE. Best one I have ever seen. WOW, talk about athletic people. I liked the poker game quite a bit as well. I though Daniel Craig was a little to muscular for the role. Hopefully he slims down a bit. The ending was good, especially the last line of the movie.KnightErrantJR said:
I love all of the Sean Connery Bond movies, except the bizarre "aging" bond movie that he made after Roger Moore took over the franchise.Eileen said:
I liked part of the movie Never Say Never Again. What I didn't like is the introduction, the villain was redone from a former movie Thunderball. I'm not a big Kim Bassinge fan. Anyway, I think there was some legal issues involved. They got the rights to do the movie but had to follow some restrictions. It isn't considered one of the "true" Bond movies supposedly. Different people and companies were involved. I don't know the full story on this but there were issues.KnightErrantJr said:
As far as Roger Moore goes, I used to like him as Bond when I was a wee tyke, but as I got older, he started to get on my nerves. His worthiness to be Bond aside, I do love Live and Let Die and The Man with the Golden Gun. And for the record Jane Seymour is probably my favorite Bond girl ever.Eileen said:
I have heard this from other people as well. He was a little to "silly" and I agree with that. I liked the actor, the look, I think the scripts got a little to silly. Apparently Roger Moore was the oldest actor to play James Bond. He also didn't like guns and complained some about the Bond movies afterwards. This kinda turned me off a little as well. I liked Jane Seymour in Live and Let Die as well.KnightErrant Jr. said:
On the other hand, Moonraker, A View to a Kill, The Living Daylights, and License to Kill were definitely my least favorite in the series. (Sorry Eileen)Despite both of his movies being on the "worst" list for me, I actually didn't think Timothy Dalton was a bad Bond. The problem was that Timothy Dalton inherited the "we don't know what to do with Bond" era scripts that marked the end of Roger Moore's tenure.
Eileen said:
How dare you disagree with me! Intolerable that anyone's opinon differ from mine. HA, HA. Moonraker was probably my least favorite along with Diamonds are Forever. Although in every Bond film I have found things I have liked. I didn't care for Timothy Dalton as Bond. He was to serious for my taste. The movies themselves weren't really an issue for me.KnightErrantJr said:
Goldeneye is my favorite of Pierce Brosnan's movies, but its also among my favorite Bond movies in general. It just felt like they really had an idea of what they wanted to do again, had some good ideas, and weren't afraid to make Bond act like Bond.I do think that they may have started to run out of steam on the whole new world order paradigm shift for Bond toward the end of Brosnan's era, but I don't think his movies quite felt as flat as the last two Moore or the Dalton movies did.
Eileen said:
As mentioned, I really enjoyed all of Pierce Brosnen's films. He was asked to take the role as Bond when Remington Steel was coming to an end. At the last minute they chose to continue with the series because they thought all the Bond hype would make Remington Steel more successful. Pierce was legally bound to do the series first. It took several years before they offered him the role again but I'm glad they did. I wish he would have made about 2 more films though, four wasn't enough.KnightErrantJr said:
All of this, again, reminds me I need to pick up Casino Royale.Eileen said:
So do it already.KnightErrandJr. said:
Oh, and I agree that Judy Dench as M is a great casting move. I rather like John Cleese as Q as well.Eileen said:
John Cleese will be a good replacement. It is a shame the original actor died, he was getting up there in age though.
I read all the books by Ian Fleming (couldn't stand the "replacement" authors), so I'm more of a "book Bond" than a "movie Bond" fan, although I love the flicks, too. So for that reason, I enjoyed On Her Majesty's Secret Service and the new Casino Royale best of all the movies. Connery was perfect for the first few (Dr. No, Goldfinger), then got goofy. Ditto for Brosnan: absolutely loved his 1st two (didn't even claim to be based on books), but couldn't stand the last two; by then Brosnan seemed to have accepted being Bond as his due, and became smirky and annoying (in my optinion), much like Connery did in his post-Lazenby flicks.
Daniel Craig is great so far; let's hope he doesn't follow suit.
But my all-time favorite movie Bond, by a mile, is still George Lazenby. A pity he opted not to continue and gave the franchise back to an aging Connery.
But my all-time favorite movie Bond, by a mile, is still George Lazenby. A pity he opted not to continue and gave the franchise back to an aging Connery.
Most people forget this movie even exists. Not because it is bad but because nobody remembers George. Although I didn't care for the kilt. I'm not a Telly Savalis fan either but some of the scenese were darn good. The best line:
"This never happened to the other guy".
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George Lazenby was great.
My favorites from each actor (except Timothy Dalton – he sucked) :
Sean Connery: Dr. No and From Russia with Love
Roger Moore: The Man with the Golden Gun and For Your Eyes Only
Pierce Brosnan: Goldeneye
Daniel Craig: Can’t really judge yet, although I think Casino Royale kicked ass! The next movie looks like it’ll be along similar lines, and the dude who’s playing the lead villain (Mathieu Amalric) looks like one crazy S.o.B.
Daniel Craig: Can’t really judge yet, although I think Casino Royale kicked ass! The next movie looks like it’ll be along similar lines, and the dude who’s playing the lead villain (Mathieu Amalric) looks like one crazy S.o.B.
Do we know anything about the plot? The only thing I have heard is that it picks up about 2 minutes where the last film left off.
Roger Moore: The Man with the Golden Gun and For Your Eyes Only
FYEO was really great, I have to admit. I mostly hated the Roger Moore era (Moonraker was the worst), but FYEO is up near the top of the list for any Bond actor, not just Moore. (I enjoyed Octopussy quite a bit as well, for some reason.)
(I enjoyed Octopussy quite a bit as well, for some reason.)
The clowns scared me!
I really liked Vijay, though... especially how he and Q ended up being good buddies. I was sort of hoping he'd become a serial character.
I really liked Vijay, though... especially how he and Q ended up being good buddies. I was sort of hoping he'd become a serial character.
What was it about him that you liked? It was a pretty small role so I'm surprised he caught your attention.
What was it about him that you liked? It was a pretty small role so I'm surprised he caught your attention.
Sticking with the action/spy genre, have you seen Ronin? One of my favorite things is the bond that develops between DeNero's character and the Frenchman played by Jean Reno.
Same kind of thing in Octopussy, but on a smaller scale; I liked how Vijay was flexible enough to take Bond's antics in stride, but respectful enough that Q took a genuine liking to him. There's one scene in which Bond goes off in some kind of robo-croc-sub to infiltrate an island, and Vijay and Q are left sitting on the beach. It's about 30 seconds long, but there's a really touching chemistry there. Here's this 70-year-old inventor who wants nothing to do with spies, and this 20-year-old rich kid who wants nothing more than to be a spy, and they end up real friends--you can tell by the way they act around each other. Bond, on the other hand, has no friends: just sidekicks and conquests.
Sticking with the action/spy genre, have you seen Ronin? One of my favorite things is the bond that develops between DeNero's character and the Frenchman played by Jean Reno.
Ronin is one of my favorite movies, one of the first ones I went and saw with my hubby. :)
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Do we know anything about the plot? The only thing I have heard is that it picks up about 2 minutes where the last film left off.
Nothing concrete is known, I think. However, the IMDB entry has some tidbits about the premise.
Ronin is one of my favorite movies, one of the first ones I went and saw with my hubby. :)
I saw it on my friend's large-screen TV with surround sound. I had made fun of him for spending all his money on turning his living room into a movie theatre. But when the gunshots in the ambush sounded like they were coming from behind me, I shut up. Quick. That was by far one of the coolest movie-viewing experiences I've ever had.
Ronin is awesome. I imagine the car-chase scenes got even better with the badass surround sound setup?
It was better than scotch. It was almost better than sex.
I'm afraid I haven't watched Ronin yet...
but regarding Mr Bond...very different opinions on what once has been my favorite movie serial!
So to add:
Top 5 before Brosnan:
1. From Russia with Love (Connery)
2. License To Kill (Dalton)
3. The Living Daylights (Dalton)
4. On her Majesty's Secret Service (Lazenby)
5. For Your Eyes Only (Moore)
Top 5 after Brosnan:
1. From Russia With Love (Connery)
2. License To Kill (Dalton)
3. Casino Royal (Craig)
4. The Living Daylights (Dalton)
5. On her Majesty's Secret Service (Lazenby)
Top 5 Bond Villains:
1. Auric Goldfinger
2. Blofeld, as played by Telly Savalas
3. Le Chiffre (Casino Royal)
4. Carl Stromberg (The Spy Who Loved Me)
5. Red Grant (From Russia With Love)
Top 5 Bond Girls (or is it Ladies these days ???)
1. Melina Havelock (For Your Eyes Only)
2. Honey Rider (Dr No)
3. Tiffany Case (Diamonds are forever)
4. Domino Duval (Thunderball)
5. Pam Bouvier (License To Kill)
Top 5 Bond Music Score
1. For Your Eyes Only (Bill Conti)
2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (John Barry)
3. The Living Daylights (John Barry)
4. Thunderball (John Barry)
5. You Only Live Twice (John Barry)
The Bond actors...of course, Connery is a classic. Dalton is highly underrated, I think. Daniel Craig is very good, hopefully he will do some more. Pierce Brosnan and Roger Moore both are some kind of schmugs, but Roger Moore is aimable. Brosnan is not, in my humble opinion...
Casino Royal is just great. Makes me forget the Brosnan flicks, which I really didn't enjoy very much...
I could discuss this forever, but I must go back to work!
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I read all the books by Ian Fleming (couldn't stand the "replacement" authors), so I'm more of a "book Bond" than a "movie Bond" fan, although I love the flicks, too. So for that reason, I enjoyed On Her Majesty's Secret Service and the new Casino Royale best of all the movies. ...But my all-time favorite movie Bond, by a mile, is still George Lazenby. A pity he opted not to continue and gave the franchise back to an aging Connery.
Sorry, Kirth, but don't count me as a fan of On Her Majesty's Secret Service. The plot was very faithful to the book, absolutely, and that made it deeper than most films. And some of the acting was terrific and nuanced.
But (a) the pacing dragged, for any film and particularly for an action film, and (b) that list of strong performances didn't include Lazenby's. Diana Rigg keeps trying her damnest to get some chemistry going, and it never quite works.
Maybe he would have become more comfortable with the role. Maybe he'd stop wearing poofy shirts. But, alas, we'll never know.
I actually liked HMSS' pacing...and some of its action sequences are cut brilliantly...but I agree, Lazenby's acting was the worst of the whole series...maybe due to the fact that HMSS was one of the deeper entries in the series...in another, more "typical" Bond film, he might have been remembered as not that bad...but we'll never know...
Cool...I didn't say "grok." Might piss somebody off or something.
Eileen wrote:
I think just for this thread you should see if you can keep up your humor and at the same time talk like Bond. You want to try?Heath wrote:
Shankyou Moneypenny....Boned...Shamesh Boned....
Vodka martini plish, shaken not shtrrsh.
Eileen wrote:
I'll accept it. Way to stay in character.
Sorry, Kirth, but don't count me as a fan of On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
Certainly no apologies are necessary--I'm well aware I'm in a distinct minority in my choice of favorites here. In the long run, you'll receive far more agreement than I.
Sorry, Kirth, but don't count me as a fan of On Her Majesty's Secret Service.Certainly no apologies are necessary--I'm well aware I'm in a distinct minority in my choice of favorites here. In the long run, you'll receive far more agreement than I.
Well, with what 21 films out, the 22nd coming in Nov. everyone is likely to find different things they enjoy. For me, there is no bad Bond, just better Bond.
Ok, if you were going to star in a Bond film...what type of role (other than Bond) would you want to play and why...
Example, villain, leading lady, henchmen, M, etc.
Ok, if you were going to star in a Bond film...what type of role (other than Bond) would you want to play and why... Example, villain, leading lady, henchmen, M, etc.
I'd totally be the villain's chief henchman, like the dude with the steel-rimmed glasses that they Identicast in For Your Eyes Only. The villain would appear only as a mastermind at the end; I'd be the on-site "effectuator" for his evil schemes. And no 9-hour fight with Bond, either. We'd encounter each other, I'd miscalculate slightly, and get whacked out in like an 18th of a second (with it made clear that 007 would have been toast after a 16th of a second)--this would take an awesome director--maybe Christopher Nolan or John Frankenheimer could do it. Yeah!
Ok, if you were going to star in a Bond film...what type of role (other than Bond) would you want to play and why... Example, villain, leading lady, henchmen, M, etc.I'd totally be the villain's chief henchman, like the dude with the steel-rimmed glasses that they Identicast in For Your Eyes Only. The villain would appear only as a mastermind at the end; I'd be the on-site "effectuator" for his evil schemes. And no 9-hour fight with Bond, either. We'd encounter each other, I'd miscalculate slightly, and get whacked out in like an 18th of a second (with it made clear that 007 would have been toast after a 16th of a second)--this would take an awesome director--maybe Christopher Nolan or John Frankenheimer could do it. Yeah!
Kirth, would you have any particularities as a henchmen? Surely there must be something about you that would stand out in the history of Bond movies, what would it be?
I'd wanna be a Bond crook. They get the 7-Up commercials.
"Try making that out of a cola nut. HA HA HA HA!"
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Hmm.....Tex Lobo.
Gotta BLACK 10 gallon hat, and a big belt buckle with a button on it that makes the hat explode when he chucks it at somebody. The hat is black, so's you know he's a baaaaaaad man. And he's got a hummer, with about 50 exploding hats in it.
And a pair of gold plated colt 45's.
And a big black hummer, with a ginormous set of longhorns on the grill. Gold plated longhorns.
And rattlesnake boots.
Kirth, would you have any particularities as a henchmen? Surely there must be something about you that would stand out in the history of Bond movies, what would it be?
I'd be the small, quiet, totally nondescript henchman whom Bond (and everyone else) overlooks until--suddenly--BAM! He's within a 16th of a second of offing Bond. That's good enough for me!
Ooh... and maybe I'd steal his "Bond girl" from him first ("steal" as in "poach," not "steal" like kidnap--just to clarify). Nobody's done that, that I know of.
Ooh... and maybe I'd steal his "Bond girl" from him first ("steal" as in "poach," not "steal" like kidnap--just to clarify). Nobody's done that, that I know of.
Wow, kidnap Bonds momentary girl, that is evil. If you could pull that off you would go down in Bond history.