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It has been a few months now since Dungeon/Dragon ended and, Pathfinder and the GameMastery Modules got started so I thought this would be a good time to ask how Paizo is doing.
So how are you doing? Are you making ends meet? Do you consider Pathfinder/GameMastery a success? How does it compare (financially) to your run with Dungeon and Dragon?
The reason I'm asking is because I hate to see anything happen to my favorite games company, you just can't find quality like what Paizo produces anywhere else.
Any finally, is there anything we the fans can do to help keep you going?
On behalf of all the fans:
We wish you good fortune Paizo, you are in a league of your own!
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I believe that James Jacobs mentioned on the Tuesday night chatroom session earlier this week (Tuesday 11th December 2007 for the record) that the Pathfinder line was doing better than they had thought it would.
Awesome that's what I was hoping to hear. I think the work they are putting out is great and I am not surprised that it is doing well.
Paizo is doing quite well.
We had conservative estimates for success on our new product lines and we've exceeded those estimates.
Unfortunately, no one at Paizo will (or can) give out detailed financial information or even information that hints at our specific financial success. That being said, 2007 is the best Paizo year ever and 2008 looks pretty darn good, too.
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Paizo is doing quite well.
We had conservative estimates for success on our new product lines and we've exceeded those estimates.
Unfortunately, no one at Paizo will (or can) give out detailed financial information or even information that hints at our specific financial success. That being said, 2007 is the best Paizo year ever and 2008 looks pretty darn good, too.
That is all I needed to hear, thanks.
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I believe that James Jacobs mentioned on the Tuesday night chatroom session earlier this week (Tuesday 11th December 2007 for the record) that the Pathfinder line was doing better than they had thought it would.
Yes he did, and I believe he said "much better". He also alluded to the idea of the profitability of Pathfinder having a direct impact on a decision of if Paizo would move to 4E or not. Pathfinder RPG....yes please.
Just keep buying our stuff. ^_^
You keep a makin', I keep a buyin'
Now, I'm just waiting for the online pizza delivery service. Paizo Pizza. Yum. Order two large, and get a free random mini.
I would buy more if the product was not so expensive. $US18 for a 64 page book like PC: Classic Monsters Revisited is a little rich.
I know ppl are going to jump on me, but this is my opinion.
Chief Creative Officer, Publisher
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We try to deliver the best products we can at the most affordable prices we can. Given the full-color printing and the (relatively) small print runs we do, that's going to push our stuff out of the price range of some folks. I'm not totally satisfied with the price point and profit ratio of 64-page books, so we probably won't be doing many of those. Instead, we'll likely move to 96-page books that cost even more, so I'm not sure if that's good or bad from your point of view. :)
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We try to deliver the best products we can at the most affordable prices we can.
I showed my wife, who sometimes complains about the amount I spend on gaming, a month or two ago my copy of Barrow of the Forgotten King and my copy of Pathfinder 1. Paid about the same for each one. One is black and white, one is full color and glossy. One 64 pages, one 96 pages. She hands down agreed that Pathfinder was the better buy.
Erik: Is there a (trade-related) reason why books are printed with pages in multiples of 32?
It's a printing/binding thing, IIRC - adding anything less would cause some binding issues (and we all hate it when some pages fall out due to that). If they were to increase the size of their products, it would have to be in 32s - which I'm perfectly happy seeing a 128 page Pathfinder product every month. I think the editors and the authors might murder me though. :D
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Erik: Is there a (trade-related) reason why books are printed with pages in multiples of 32?It's a printing/binding thing, IIRC.
Yup. They're called signatures. Read about the exciting world of bookbinding here. :)
Yup. They're called signatures. Read about the exciting world of bookbinding here. :)Erik: Is there a (trade-related) reason why books are printed with pages in multiples of 32?It's a printing/binding thing, IIRC.
Mike, I've been explaining this to writers for years, having to summon it all up and do my best to present it cogently each time. Thanks for the wikipedia link. From now on I'll just URL 'em.
You've saved me one full week of hearing my own voice in this life, which is a marvelous thing indeed.
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Yup. They're called signatures. Read about the exciting world of bookbinding here. :)Erik: Is there a (trade-related) reason why books are printed with pages in multiples of 32?It's a printing/binding thing, IIRC.
Don't believe their lies. Everyone knows that Erik Mona is a die hard numerology freak. Not only is everything printed in multiples of 32, but if you count the number of letters in each 32nd paragraph of Paizo products, the result is 32. Plus, if you look carefully you'll see that if you take Erik Mona, convert the letters into numbers, and then multiply that by his date of birth, you get 32!
Don't believe their lies. Everyone knows that Erik Mona is a die hard numerology freak. Not only is everything printed in multiples of 32, but if you count the number of letters in each 32nd paragraph of Paizo products, the result is 32. Plus, if you look carefully you'll see that if you take Erik Mona, convert the letters into numbers, and then multiply that by his date of birth, you get 32!Yup. They're called signatures. Read about the exciting world of bookbinding here. :)Erik: Is there a (trade-related) reason why books are printed with pages in multiples of 32?It's a printing/binding thing, IIRC.
dude you need to get out more!!!!
Yup. They're called signatures. Read about the exciting world of bookbinding here. :)Erik: Is there a (trade-related) reason why books are printed with pages in multiples of 32?It's a printing/binding thing, IIRC.
I would read about it now, but work has me all tied up. Perhaps later? I know that I will be bound to read it eventually.
~runs as rotten fruit and veggies are thrown at me~
Good to hear. Keep up the good work.
I only have one thing to say.
Paizo: 64 page book = 18 U.S. Dollars
WoTC: 64 page book = 25 U.S. Dollars
You do the math.
Not to be a wet blanket or anything, but if Paizo is doing better than expected, why are the Dungeon refunds so very late? Lisa Stevens states that there have been setbacks that have slowed down Paizo's ability to pay refunds on time.
Doppleganger the setbacks have nothing to do with monitary issues. It deals with technical aspects. They have to get computers and booking to log all of it correctly for legal reasons. Trust me, this is a process that makes one pull their hair out and spend nights at the bars till closing. Take my word, Paizo is doing everything in their power to refund people their checks. They are not trying to hold onto your money to make interest. Just give it some time.
I only have one thing to say.
Paizo: 64 page book = 18 U.S. Dollars
WoTC: 64 page book = 25 U.S. Dollars
You do the math.
Yep, and WotC are charging way to much as well.
Don't believe their lies. Everyone knows that Erik Mona is a die hard numerology freak. Not only is everything printed in multiples of 32, but if you count the number of letters in each 32nd paragraph of Paizo products, the result is 32. Plus, if you look carefully you'll see that if you take Erik Mona, convert the letters into numbers, and then multiply that by his date of birth, you get 32!
The truth is revealed!
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Not to be a wet blanket or anything, but if Paizo is doing better than expected, why are the Dungeon refunds so very late? Lisa Stevens states that there have been setbacks that have slowed down Paizo's ability to pay refunds on time.
I would take a guess that those problems aren't financial and have more to do with red tape etc.. :) Go pathfinder!
Oh yeah, all the best to Paizo, they dropped a beautiful present right in our laps!
Don't you love it when someone puts their blood and sweat into something, making it great, and then you get to come along and take it away from them and make it yours, just because. Well, I do.
By the way, Paizo, don't make too much money, leave a little RPG market for the rest of us, huh? Heh heh heh heh heh eHEHEHEHHEHHHHERAGHHHAHHHHGHGHGAHHHHHHHHH
YES, MY CHILDREN, RISE UP AND DEFEAT PAIZO WITH YOUR NEWLY IMPROVED 4E MECHANICS!!!!
PS. Love Pathfinder! If we could we'd take that too.
It would be nice if there was things for players to buy. Being the judge I enjoy the Runelord stuff but what could my players buy for their PCs?
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It would be nice if there was things for players to buy. Being the judge I enjoy the Runelord stuff but what could my players buy for their PCs?
Oh, they could buy so many things they'd never have to stop. Oh, the things they could buy, my stars!
Joking aside, they could purchase the Adventure Gear decks for themselves, as has been suggested elsewhere. Or perhaps they could purchase the Campaign Journal for themselves, to keep a running log of their friends and foes and sundry associations. Or, if you're like me, you could just encourage them to buy stuff for you to use, like battle mats, map packs, books, so forth. Of course, if your players are anything like mine, you can expect some walkouts and/or dice pelting. Oh well, a man can dream...
Now that I'm thinking about it, a Pathfinder Character Record Folio would be pretty swanky...
I would buy more if the product was not so expensive. $US18 for a 64 page book like PC: Classic Monsters Revisited is a little rich.
I know ppl are going to jump on me, but this is my opinion.
SEIZE THE HERETIC!
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It would be nice if there was things for players to buy. Being the judge I enjoy the Runelord stuff but what could my players buy for their PCs?Oh, they could buy so many things they'd never have to stop. Oh, the things they could buy, my stars!
Joking aside, they could purchase the Adventure Gear decks for themselves, as has been suggested elsewhere. Or perhaps they could purchase the Campaign Journal for themselves, to keep a running log of their friends and foes and sundry associations. Or, if you're like me, you could just encourage them to buy stuff for you to use, like battle mats, map packs, books, so forth. Of course, if your players are anything like mine, you can expect some walkouts and/or dice pelting. Oh well, a man can dream...
Now that I'm thinking about it, a Pathfinder Character Record Folio would be pretty swanky...
Hmmm, more player stuff sounds very cool.....
Oh yeah, all the best to Paizo, they dropped a beautiful present right in our laps!
Don't you love it when someone puts their blood and sweat into something, making it great, and then you get to come along and take it away from them and make it yours, just because. Well, I do.
By the way, Paizo, don't make too much money, leave a little RPG market for the rest of us, huh? Heh heh heh heh heh eHEHEHEHHEHHHHERAGHHHAHHHHGHGHGAHHHHHHHHH
YES, MY CHILDREN, RISE UP AND DEFEAT PAIZO WITH YOUR NEWLY IMPROVED 4E MECHANICS!!!!
PS. Love Pathfinder! If we could we'd take that too.
Hey! I'm not paying you to take to the "fans". Get back to work!!!
Only if you use it to buy Paizo stuff.
Gary if Paizo is willing to give me money, I promise I'll spend it on Paizo merchandise.