
Ragadolf |

Hm,,...Seem to be several casters already, (Sor, Beguilers, etc.) maybe I'll just stick with the straight Psion,.... Tho that psion/caster PrC looked mighty tasty,... :D
I HOPE to be able to stat up and build this weekend, but I am working, AND my daughter is in the 'Nutcracker' This weekend, (Violin solo here) so please don't hate me on Monday if it not done yet!
Thanks!

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Ha ha!!! I'm on call, so it's a craptoss whether I'll be done.
I too noticed that the spellcasting looks covered, and as such decided to go straight rogue. May name meself Red something as an homage to fakey's stamping out the misspelling of rogue as "rouge" on this board. ;)

Ragadolf |

James Keegan wrote:Would you want me to email you the sheet this site made or just make the character here?Just dropping it into an alias would be perfect. I keep trying to write up more city info but Drew is in an awesome mood today, and learned to say, "Daddy" last night, so we're dancing around the living room. ;)
Congrats!
Ah yes, I remember those days.When my kids were young, small,... easily controllable,.... ;P

mwbeeler |

Does a human get bonus power points from his charisma if all he has is his Inborn Power? If so, are the PP calculated using his character levels or effective character levels?
No. Just the three, though if you take a psionic class, you get to add those bonus points to your total pool. Charisma just sets the DC (unless your class says different). The manifest level is based on char. level though, which makes it freaky powerful.
I can't find where it lists what powers are forbidden to you when you choose your speciality. Can anyone link me to where it is listed? (I hate to ask anyone to type it up!)
No worries. If you mean the psion disciplines, they are all off limits except the general power pool, PLUS the group that relates to your specialty.
And magic in Athas. Cast as normal and no defilers? When you gain a 'defilier point' by adding a meta magic feat to your casting, so you have to know the feat you add? Or is that why you gain the point? Because your drawing on more magic than you know? (In case I decide to go the Psi/Wiz combo route)
I’m going to run the defiling pull a little cosmetically, and the real kill will come from doing things you shouldn’t normally be able to do (like free metamagic). Though there are limits to what feats you can apply for “free” based on level. All arcane magic on Athas requires “quickening” from a life source, the most common being vegetation.
- CG female human cleric 4
- CN male human binder 1 / sorcerer 3
Woah there, binder boy! Hmm, let me put some thought into what Vestiges might be available on Athas. Coranu StarRunner (SP) might be cool…
For your character level, do you add your level adjustment AND your monstrous humanoid HD and then add the remaining class levels? Dragon magazine gives him a +2 level adjustment, so I thought I would have three levels of ranger but the 'monsters and experience' section seems to say that I would have to be a first level ranger. I'm either a fifth level character or a seventh level as it stands and will adjust if it's incorrect.
Ah, the gentle screwage of monstrous hit dice. Basically he’s got two racial HD of monstrous humanoid, which are his first two levels (max hp / skill points on the first monster HD), plus a LA of 2, for an effective character level of 4, plus 1 class level of whatever. So, 3 levels worth of skill points (though two of them are horrifically gimped, Kreen are psycho nightmare fuel in combat) and hit points for 5 levels of xp.
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Don't feel rushed, by any means, by the way. I'll look over the sheets of the done peeps, but I'm a pretty laid-back guy. If playing starts to feel like work, you aren’t playing anymore! ;)

Ragadolf |

Sigh,...
OK, I'm sure that I'm trying to make this harder than it needs to be.
Psionic powers, As a 1st level Psion, I know 3 powers, have 'X' # of PP's, AND-must choose a discipline. OK,Fine,...
IF I choose Telepathy, I can ONLY choose powers from each level that are labeled "Telepathy" powers? And do I know 3 powers TOTAL at 1st level? OR is it, I pick 3 powers from the Psion list, and I know them IN ADDITION to the ones listed under my chosen discipline?!?
Seems to me there HAS to be an easier way to word this to make it SIMPLE and UNDERSTANDABLE compared to how they phrased it in the book! (Funny, I have NO trouble understanding how Polymorph works! And that seems to cause others no end of consternation!)
Thanks all,...
EDIT- Ah, ok, I'm looking,...
So the powers whose description says, "Level: Shaper 1" can ONLY be taken by those who have chosen Shaper as their discipline.
SO- I'm guessing that 1st level you can ONLY know 3 powers, but you get to choose them from the 'Psion/Wilder List' OR from your 'Shaper List'?

mwbeeler |

Sigh,...
OK, I'm sure that I'm trying to make this harder than it needs to be.
Not a problem. Three powers total, choosen from the psion list and your chosen devotion. Once you pick a specialty, the other disiplines are locked out (so only certain psions will ever have access to a particular power).
Your inborn racial power now runs off your psion stat as well, and you add the racial power points to your total (which means you can manifest more powers per day, though you are still only considered a first level manifester).
Psionics takes a little bit to wrap around, no worries. Manifester level is king, and things that help you get your psionic focus back faster are helpful.

mwbeeler |

Balic – On its way to becoming the next free city after Tyr, Balic’s hopes of a democratic state were crushed by the return of their exiled Dragon King, Andropinis, at the head of an army of similarly imprisoned and now fanatically loyal Maeneds. Concentrating on repairing the damage done during his absence, Andropinis has little time for the fates of his people, the port along the Silt Sea, or his new allies.
Tyr – More accommodating than any other city of the tablelands, Tyr has survived Sorcerer Kings, dragon attacks, grasping nobles, and invading armies. Run by a council of nobles and wizards of the Veiled Alliance, and populated by freed slaves, Tyr is also the only city not downright hostile towards arcane spellcasters (though defilers will find Tyr one of the most dangerous cities on Athas). Tyr houses the most active and impressive gladiatorial arena of all the city-states, and rich (as Athas goes) veins of nearby iron.
Gulg – Few Athasians view trees with any regularity, with the notable exception being the residents of Gulg, who live atop a miraculous treetop city shaped unnaturally by the Sorcerer Queen of Gulg in order to perpetuate her forest goddess mythos, the state religion of Gulg. Even stranger, a fair number of Halfling expatriates call Gulg their home, willing giving their worship. Visitors do stop over in Gulg, but they are neither particularly welcomed nor free to go where they please.

mwbeeler |

Poor lil' lonely buggy. :(
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I'll give everyone a twice over later tonight. Looks like some great character concepts.
Careful on the non-core goodies, btw. I'm willing to flex most things, but I'm anti "book of abusive spells," just so you all know ahead of time.

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Careful on the non-core goodies, btw. I'm willing to flex most things, but I'm anti "book of abusive spells," just so you all know ahead of time.
Are you allowing Binders? If so, will you accept a homebrew vestige?
I've actually narrowed my choice down to one character. Amazing, right?

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:Woah there, binder boy! Hmm, let me put some thought into what Vestiges might be available on Athas. Coranu StarRunner (SP) might be cool…- CG female human cleric 4
- CN male human binder 1 / sorcerer 3
I think Ronove would also work well.
I'm going to go with it, as I'm itching to get started. I'll post a stat block in my profile, and if you don't like it, I can just roll up another character.
Oh, and I used the 5d4 system, rather than point-buy, just so you know.

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Are you allowing Binders? If so, will you accept a homebrew vestige?I've actually narrowed my choice down to one character. Amazing, right?
Check out some home-brewed vestiges
here.
Cool. I was planning on implementing one I had fixed up myself, but I actually found a perfect one in the Tome of Magic.

mwbeeler |

You guys are just cruising!
My original intention was to stick with just the SRD to accommodate folks without many books, but it’s a losing battle sometimes.
I love binders, but I’m not sure if the “feel” is right (does that make sense)? We’ll give it a whirl and you can prove me wrong though.
I may drop off the Earth a bit; when I woke up the throbbing cracks in my skull alerted me to the impending storm. Aside from a little intracranial pressure, I feel ok so far though.

mwbeeler |

Reviewing now (just really look for anything glaring, following up on backgrounds to incorporate story elements and the like).
So far, we have:
Human Rogue/Ranger/Monk
Thri-kreen Ranger
Elven Beguiler (defiler)
Mul Gladiator
Human Rogue
Human Fighter / Binder
Halfling Psychic Warrior
Human cleric (elemental)

Kruelaid |

Reviewing now (just really look for anything glaring, following up on backgrounds to incorporate story elements and the like).
So far, we have:
Human Rogue/Ranger/Monk
Thri-kreen Ranger
Elven Beguiler (defiler)
Mul Gladiator
Human Rogue
Human Fighter / Binder
Halfling Psychic Warrior
Human cleric (elemental)
And very soon a halfling barbarian. Sheeeit. No arcane spellcasters. Goons, goons, goons.

mwbeeler |

Kirrish-Kreshk-Skiklik looks awesome; rubber stamped.
The XPH errata didn’t make it to the Dragon issue, unfortunately: "Psionic displacement" is meant to be greater concealing amorpha and "know direction" is know direction and location.
Bonus points for “tasty tasty,” except now all I can hear is that Fergie song where they spell it incorrectly...

Kruelaid |

Yeh....I've settled on a straight rogue lvl 4, human, rolled 5d4 allready; got believable stats; Trying to decide where to put the 8; prolly charisma I don't know yet. Irgo somebody'll have to be the face guy cos I'm just ugly.
En? Stats: roll or buy?
Wait, I found your post. What is an old "school" 5d4, cuz for me "old school" was the red book and we didn't use 5d4. Do I roll 6 and place them? What's the policy? If I like it I'll use the castle, if not, I'll buy.

Kruelaid |

Aso wrote:I told Malaki his name means "Big" in the Filipino Language. Your name, friend, means "Dog" though.Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Bio done, more to come.
My wife is a Filipina. You and Manpig twigged me on the idea of using Tagalog. Read the bio and you'll see why he is called "dog".
To the western ear, Tagalog is a lively language, and great for cool D&D names.

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My wife is a Filipina. You and Manpig twigged me on the idea of using Tagalog. Read the bio and you'll see why he is called "dog".
Yes now I remember. You will be happy to know that all's quite on this side of the Pacific Ocean.
The language by the way is very subjective. Sometimes the meaning changes depending on how you say the words.

Kruelaid |

Kruelaid wrote:My wife is a Filipina. You and Manpig twigged me on the idea of using Tagalog. Read the bio and you'll see why he is called "dog".Yes now I remember. You will be happy to know that all's quite on this side of the Pacific Ocean.
The language by the way is very subjective. Sometimes the meaning changes depending on how you say the words.
It's like that in other languages, too. And to tell the truth, my Tagalog is very weak. I've already learned too many other languages.
Also, I'm on the same side of the Pacific. We live in China.

mwbeeler |

Having a dense moment... I don't get what you mean by that. Sorry!
No biggie. Just took me a sec while I was looking at it to realize that even though it said 3 (the number of ranks in it), it was actually 6 skill points (being cross class). Doesn't matter either way, honestly.

mwbeeler |

I like the idea of beguilers being sponsored by Rajaat, perhaps even unwittingly on their part. He is pretty much the originator of sorcery, and that sort of duplicity is right up his alley, even if he is encased in a hunk of obsidian and buried in a volcano. Maybe as a fallback crew in case his plot with Sadira falls through.
I thought about maybe using them to help conceal the Last Sea, but that area is fairly well 100% psionics.
As a less overreaching backdrop, you could be an undercover agent of the Dragon Kings, designed to infiltrate the Veiled Alliance. It would take a very crafty defiler to get close to wizards without giving themselves away.