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As per our recent posts, I have recently purchased the Firefly series and am enjoying seeing them a second gorram time.
Also, PsiFox, I made a rather obtuse (at least to many Americans) movie reference in my last in-game post. I thought you might pick up on it.
EDIT: "We're going to Bonnie Dune! We're going to Bonnie Dune!"
As per our recent posts, I have recently purchased the Firefly series and am enjoying seeing them a second gorram time.
Also, PsiFox, I made a rather obtuse (at least to many Americans) movie reference in my last in-game post. I thought you might pick up on it.
EDIT: "We're going to Bonnie Dune! We're going to Bonnie Dune!"
Glad to hear that you're enjoying it. Always nice to have another convert.
I'm still trying to figure out how much is OK to assume about a situation. I know things go slower if folks are continually making Spot/Search checks before acting, and sometimes you can assume someone else's nonverbal response to an action, but I'm not one to put 2 and 2 together and get 6. No, actuallly, I do, just not out loud -- in case I'm wrong!
I don't know if it's paranoia or general twistedness, but I can think of at least two people that it could be who are not Naelah... ;)
BTW, what is that girl's CHA score? People are certainly drawn to her.
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BTW, what is that girl's CHA score? People are certainly drawn to her.
It's the hair. Also, Rags and I seem to like to play off the tension it creates.
Vesh is young, so I'm trying to play him with the very Romeo-like tendency to be "all in" when it comes to matters of the heart. If another girl came along that captured his attention, he'd most likely be "all in" with her too.
I imagine Ehlissa being every bit as physically attractive as Naelah, but not quite as exotic, and thus not as intriguing to Vesh. Also, Ehlissa comes across as alternately very young and almost bratty (for lack of a better word) and very powerful. Vesh probably doesn't know what to make of the sword-weilding noblewoman other than to be a little intimidated by her. He appreciates her beauty, but he also appreciates the pointiness of her sword.
Then there's the whole Shoanti thing. Naelah being Shoanti actually plays into his background (which I have yet to make explicit) and ups the ante when it comes to why he would be attracted to her. Suffice to say, he is repeating his past.
He has no clue what to make of Salome. He'll probably be attracted to her exotic background and accent, much the same way as he is with Naelah. But her fierceness will suppress that attraction--again with the pointy sword thing!
While he is young and impetuous, I'm also trying not to play him as a dork. Thus, he hasn't been enamored with Shayliss. He's been down the "trouble with daddy" road before and knows Ven would eviscerate him if he allowed Shayliss to play her game.
I would like to conclude this essay on Vesh's libido by saying...girls rule!
EDIT: I just scrolled back through the game post, and I'm going to risk drawing attention to the obvious, but if Malcolm flubs his REF save, he could be down to 2 hp. If Naelah can be brought back to positive hp, great. But our fighters need healing as well if we're to find Ameiko (and/or confront Tsuto). How much healing mojo does Salome have?
Surprisingly, Naelah only has a CHA score of 13. However, the three of us (ie. Rags, Sant, and I), seem to have built this nice bit of three-way tension, with Naelah existing as a good influence on the pair of them. To Vesh, Naelah give him cause to be more than he is (better, smarter, more mature), and to Slidell, she is a calming influence, she can bring the tornado that is his mind to a halt.
It remains to be seen what effect these two men will have on her...
I also love the fact that the wind analogies (she's from the wind-clan) are so very powerful. I love playing this character!
EDIT: If someone could be so kind as to bring me back to waking, I would be happy. ;)
@JSL:
I just scrolled back through the game post, and I'm going to risk drawing attention to the obvious, but if Malcolm flubs his REF save, he could be down to 2 hp. If Naelah can be brought back to positive hp, great. But our fighters need healing as well if we're to find Ameiko (and/or confront Tsuto). How much healing mojo does Salome have?
Glad you asked! Actually, not really; I'm getting low.
Three zero-level spells ---> Cure Minor Wounds (that's 1 HP - yea!).
One 1st-level ---> CLW
Two CLW potions
Did anyone else bring CLW potions?
Answer to IMMEDIATE problem, I have only 1 CLW potion.
Answer to "What is it with these guys and the shoanti girl?!?" A little more involved.
1) Gotta be the hair, ;)
2) I DO enjoy playing Slidell's bumbliness when he gets around her. And it seems to make for fun 'tension' when the three of us get to posting right after the other. Slidell is both more and less worldly than Vesh, for reasons that I haven't made public yet. (Vesh and Sli, mysterious guys,...) Slidell is more educated in the ways of the 'world at large' than Vesh, less likely to get taken by an investment scam let's say, but Vesh is quite the womanizer compared to Sli,
Mostly because he was just kept too busy with his studies to ever get out and meet girls, much less develop any friendships with them. But there might be other, more sinister reasons that I have mentioned to our equally evil-minded DM, and we are trying to work them into the story in a few levels, assuming we make it that far.
(Looking VERY iffy right now I'd say!)
And last but not least!
3) She's the only one who'll let Slidell get out everything he wants to say without interrupting him!
As far as He's concerned, she's the perfect woman! ;P
She's Ba-ack!
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We gotta get through the door, but I think Mal and Corran are gonna need some healing. What about Ehlissa? Is she hurt at all? I'd be apt to burn through the potions before using more spells.
Same line up as before? Vesh and/or Mal on the door, Corran and Ehlissa up front? Then Salome and Naelah? Slidell covers with the crossbow?
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Ehlissa is totally unharmed (she powered through those gobbos, man), Naelah is 2HP off her max, and I can afford to use some curative magic. I've got a goodberry spell prepped, so I can always sacrifice that.
@JSL: What gear do I have on me? My clothes and armor? Do I have my component pouch still? And I figure I'm weaponless. I guess it sucks that I don't have that amulet, huh? Think we'd be allowed to pick it up (Salome could probably get more use out of it)?
I think the opposite way, I tend to use the spells first cuz they're easier to replace. I tend to save the items for emergencies.
Normal order is ok with me, I have a couple of spells with reach if it gets too ugly too quick.
Might want to check the math, If i remember right you might get more healing out of using the goodberry spell rather than sacrificing it for a CLW. (Unless what you meant by 'sacrifice' was to USE it! Then NM the crazy caster!)
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Goodberry gets you 2d4 berries that heal 1HP each. CLW is better in this instance. Especially as I don't have any berries. Additionally, we're not in combat, so I can max out my healing.
What about ... Elderberries!?!!
Sli: I was just thinking in terms of getting through this encounter (I'm assuming Tsuto is still around) and preserving Salome's prepared spells. Now that she's out of first level spells, the point is moot I guess. Otherwise, I agree with your logic. It's so...logical.
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Okay, so I won't have any weapons on me, but I still have armor and spell component pouch. Huzzah for not being squishy!
On the 'appropriate item' front, that sounds good. Naelah (at level 4) will be able to start complementing her divine utility with arcane blastiness. Arcane Hierophant is awesome like that. Just you wait until we pass level 6!
I could use some healing. going through this with 6hp is not going to be pretty.
I am trying to show preference for a lower wealth/lower magic campaign despite the 3E "it's all about the toys" mindset. Frankly, I'd love it if PCs took item creation feats, then I wouldn't have to worry about doling out treasure that just happens to be useful or have you buy magic (which still strikes my 1E roots as just plain wrong).
Cool. I like magic items as much as the next guy but when your character becomes less about it's race and class and more about what swag you've got I get a little irrate. I could do with less stat/AC/save boosting items and more unigue items that a)are actually special and magical and b) have a cool factor.
One minor problem with RotRL is that the PCs wealth will quickly outstrip the Town of Sandpoint's entire GNP. So its hard to keep the PCs...
Not if one of the players marries Shayliss its not. Our RL party's elf has been an excellant plot hook.
I'm OK with the direction you're taking Mr. DM. Allow me to say this though,
1) I originally LOVED the fact that 3.0 had magic item creation rules! This meant that you didn't have to a) fake your own rules, or b) go find a 'magic shop'. And I would be interested in taking some magic item creation feats and making stuff. Designing your own items that are cool and DON'T cost a bajillion$$ is half of the fun!
2) The only problem I have with the creation feats is that they make you pay XP to make your items. I understand that this is to prevent mages from making themselves 20 or 30 spare fireball wands, and other such nonsense, but it sucks that you have to lag behind your friends if you want to make ANY items.
Help me come up with a way to work past that, and I'll pick up a creation feat or two in the future, (not as many as I will metamagic feats, but some!)
and now, back to the show!,....
Ehlissa is teh hawtness (of course) and is a strong personality, but she has a kind of aura about her that might be offputting to guys like Vesh and Slidell (prot. from shy guys 15' radius)
Ehlissa is teh hawtness (of course) and is a strong personality, but she has a kind of aura about her that might be offputting to guys like Vesh and Slidell (prot. from shy guys 15' radius)
Actually she has two auras up,
1) Prot vs. shy guys, (proof vs, Vesh)
2) Prot vs. Geeks, 25' radius (Proof vs. Slidell,) Unfortunately this aura is experimental, if the GEEK makes his save vs. Will he gets to ignore it for the day! ;P
On the matter of XP cost for item creation, I think that there are some special rules for replacing XP costs with something else in Unearthed Arcana. I'll take a look at them and post them if you want (and once I have time).
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At some point back up there, JSL awarded us 150xp for the goblins we just mowed. That plus the 100xp for the week of 1/24 is 250 total. JSL asked for an XP update, but I can't remember what his count was, and I'm not bothering to scroll back through previous posts right now. I have Vesh's total at 1820 xp. Is that what others have?
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Continuing my thoughts from the game thread:
I won't go into too much metagame analysis 'cause that's fun for no one. However, I will say that if this is what I think it is, Vesh will need to roll at least a 27, 28, or 29--and that assumes the caster is only of the minimum level required to cast the spell! I point this out, because as Vesh is breaking a sweat, so am I!!!
I love this game!
Cool description of the trap! I'm glad I didn't go with my first impulse and open the trapdoor.
My count is 1820XP too.
I looked up the Craft Point system in Unearthed Arcana and it allows you to expend craft points (which you gain every level and by taking item creation feats) to reduce the amount of time required to make a magical item.
I think that the Eberron Core Sourcebook has the best solution. In it are presented three feats that Sli might find useful for crafting items.
Exceptional Artisan
Prerequisite Any item creation feat
Benefit When determining the time you need to craft any item, reduce the base time by 25%.
Extraordinary Artisan
Prerequisite Any item creation feat
Benefit When determining the gold piece cost in raw materials you need to craft any item, reduce the base price by 25%
Legendary Artisan
Prerequisite Any item creation feat
Benefits When determining your XP cost for creating any magic item, reduce the base cost by 25%
Also in the ECS, the new class (Artificer) presents something called a Craft Reserve. Every level the Artificer gets a certain amount of reserve points, which can be used in place of XP when crafting an item. If you want (and if JSL will allow it) I can work up a feat that gives craft reserve points.
I'm glad that you guys are keeping track of the XP, cuz I'm obviously missing those updates!
"Hm, Trap too tough? Use our handy-Dandy Patent Pending 'GOblin Trap Remover', simply throw one of these lil buggers onto any suspected trap, and watch him clear it out for you!
POOF! We call it 'Trap B Gone'!"
I'm glad that you guys are keeping track of the XP, cuz I'm obviously missing those updates!
"Hm, Trap too tough? Use our handy-Dandy Patent Pending 'GOblin Trap Remover', simply throw one of these lil buggers onto any suspected trap, and watch him clear it out for you!
POOF! We call it 'Trap B Gone'!"
Its a good thing that none of us are paladins. That would definitely count as an evil act.
Where's Fabes when you need him? I'm sure Ehlissa would slap Sli if he said that in game.
Spoiler:bonus craft points if you do. ;)
Alright! your on! :)
ACK! I've lost my avatar image! And I can't figure out how to go and reselect it!
(HELP! I've lost my picture and I can't get up!) ;P
Has Sli vanished?
Nope, it was just my photos of half my avatars.
But they back now! Me happy! :D
(Weird stuff going on in these here 'puters. Mark my words, no good can come of 'em! they'll take over if ya ain't carful!)
;P
Interesting, I think it might just work, at least for us.
Even if we do end up tweaking it a bit more, you have definitely come up with an awesome option to the core rules for item creation!
I like it for several reasons, not the least of which is that it lets ALL characters have a hand in creating a 'magic' item, even if you do not actually classify it as 'magic'. Very cool.
NOW- consider adding this clause;
Characters can work together to make an item. To do so they must work on the item together, (basically as per core rules), and they can share the 'point cost' of the item. (And this is how the bad guys get those cool toys, they trick others into working with them, and then drain them of 'points'! And usually their life in the bargain!)
This allows those cool higher level items to be made that have multiple abilities without the maker having to be both a cleric and a mage, for example.
I would like to discuss the single-use scrolls and potions having a lower 'point cost' per level of spell than other items like a wand, which has multiple charges, or arms & armor, which are permanent.
But I think this is workable! Great job @JSL~, this is the kind of stuff I create, but can never 'stat out' rules wise, Thank you!
EDIT- We may also (eventually) have to come up with a cost for 'magic abilities' of an item that are '# uses/day' rather than 'permanent' or 'Charges' (wand) Just a thought!