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Talion09 wrote:
Mike, I'm assuming its ok to mention on the boards if you made it to the next stage of the Open Call?

Yeah, that's fine. We're pretty open about stuff like that. :)

The Last Rogue wrote:
By the by, Paizo thanks for doing this. I know it benefits you guys (hopefully) but it really invigorates a lot of your clientele. Kudos!

*thumbs up*

Liberty's Edge

Bugger .... displacer beasts don't seem to be OGL ... scratch that particular idea then ....


The Last Rogue wrote:

By the by, Paizo thanks for doing this. I know it benefits you guys (hopefully) but it really invigorates a lot of your clientele. Kudos!

I'll second that!

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Jeremy Walker wrote:


Now that being said, a good map turnover is very important, and while you can write consistently for us while turning over poor maps *cough* Nick *cough* it helps your case A LOT if your map turnovers look cool.

lol.

Good to see that even the mighty Logue isn't indestructible....and still gets his balls busted on occasion. :)


I've heard Pett's maps are QUALITY. We're talking Rand McNally stuff.

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Eyebite wrote:


Good to see that even the mighty Logue isn't indestructible....and still gets his balls busted on occasion. :)

Yeah... "On Occasion."

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

The Last Rogue wrote:
I've heard Pett's maps are QUALITY. We're talking Rand McNally stuff.

Yeah, and Pett labels all of his locations with perfect calligraphy.

I mean....they're not just maps.....they're "experiences" when Pett draws them.

Liberty's Edge

Jeremy Walker wrote:
We won't ask for maps until the final turnover.

Can we send maps as part of the original 800 word open call submission?

Liberty's Edge

Yeah, so um wow...

I am still doiing this, but I don't think it broke through my never published mind that we were talking about 30+ encounters.

4 encounters per day, 32 encounters... 8 days in the wild...

I can do this

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Mothman wrote:
Bugger .... displacer beasts don't seem to be OGL ... scratch that particular idea then ....

Nope. There are like 9 creatures in the MM that are WotC IP.

tav_behemoth wrote:
Can we send maps as part of the original 800 word open call submission?

It won't help you win and it might instead actually hurt your chances of advancing. So don't bother. :)

Scarab Sages

Mike McArtor wrote:
Nope. There are like 9 creatures in the MM that are WotC IP.

Anyone care to post a list of these?

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Moff Rimmer wrote:


Anyone care to post a list of these?

Beholder/Gauth

Carrion Crawler
Displacer Beast
Githyanki/Githzerai
Kuo-Toa
Mind Flayer
Slaad
Umber Hulk
Yaun-Ti

Scarab Sages

Jeremy Walker wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:


Anyone care to post a list of these?

Beholder/Gauth

Carrion Crawler
Displacer Beast
Githyanki/Githzerai
Kuo-Toa
Mind Flayer
Slaad
Umber Hulk
Yaun-Ti

[sarcasm] It's nice to see that they took only some of the best creatures. [/sarcasm]

Any other books/publications that we can/should look at using?

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Moff Rimmer wrote:
Any other books/publications that we can/should look at using?

Anything OGL. It's best to limit your use of non-core monsters, though. In fact, in the 800-word thingy it's probably best to avoid mention of non-core monsters completely.

Scarab Sages

Mike McArtor wrote:
Anything OGL. It's best to limit your use of non-core monsters, though. In fact, in the 800-word thingy it's probably best to avoid mention of non-core monsters completely.

I was planning on that. Just wanted to get things straight in my head ahead of time. And I was just wondering what the best OGL stuff out there is.


Moff Rimmer wrote:
I was planning on that. Just wanted to get things straight in my head ahead of time. And I was just wondering what the best OGL stuff out there is.

I've found the Tome of Horrors book series really good for OGL beasties.

Liberty's Edge

Mike McArtor wrote:
tav_behemoth wrote:
Can we send maps as part of the original 800 word open call submission?
It won't help you win and it might instead actually hurt your chances of advancing. So don't bother. :)

Alas, no a-picture-is-worth-an-extra-thousand-words cheese!

Would it be a good idea to think about using locations that could be represented with GameMastery maps - not necessarily calling them out in the 800 words, but keeping an eye on which could be worked into the plot? Some folks think that kind of product placement is cheesy (e.g. Wizards adventures specifying which D&D minis to use for each adventure), but I like having new ways to use something I already own or pointers for stuff I could pick up to enhance the play experience.

Liberty's Edge

Mike McArtor wrote:
Moff Rimmer wrote:
Any other books/publications that we can/should look at using?
Anything OGL.

*cracks open his Book of Erotic Fantasy*

Addendum: It would be really really awesome if us newbies got to see the outline to say 'Conquest of the Bloodsworn Vale' just to help us out.

The only way I've ever had to write an outline for official uses meant following all those crazy roman numeral and capital letter rules and such. I have no idea how to add maps into that equation =p

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Coridan wrote:
*cracks open his Book of Erotic Fantasy*

Nice!

I'm sure the climactic final battle with the flaming orgasm monster will really catch their eye.

... I'm not even going to ask what your Red Raven is.


Coridan wrote:


I'd be absolutely stunned if they had another one before 4e came out, because they're gonna want to decide whether or not to switch.

I'd rather write a 4e module. The encounters seem much more engaging.


Who is reviewing the queries? Is it a committee of Jason + Mike + Jeremy (ie. those that have GameMastery in their titles) or ???

hmm... maybe I should have asked this before I sent in the query... I could have incorporated more fiendish dinosaurs and gnome ninjas into the adventure... maybe created the "gninja" as the new monster, since ninja's aren't OGL... ;-)

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Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Mike McArtor wrote:
Talion09 wrote:
When is this slated to be published if the completed manuscript has to be in by Jan 1st 2008?

May 2008, I think.

Yes, it's a very aggressive schedule.

Don't enter if you can't write that many words by the deadline.

If you win but you're late with your final submission, expect to never work for us again.

So don't be late. ;D

Not to sound cocky, in fact it is more wishful, but my birthday is in May. I'll actually be 35 this coming year, so getting my adventure published would be a heckuva birthday present. *chuckles*

Robert N. Emerson
Grand Master Delver CuDraoi at Delver's Square
Magister of Glen Ravin
The Emerson Papers

Ex Ignorantia Ad Sapientiam; E Luce Ad Tenebras

Liberty's Edge

Starfinder Charter Superscriber
Moff Rimmer wrote:

[sarcasm] It's nice to see that they took only some of the best creatures. [/sarcasm]

Any other books/publications that we can/should look at using?

You could always do what Phil Reed did and re-imagine one of those beasties, like he did with the Mind Flayer, via the Possessors that he created.

They fill a similar niche, yet are different.

Anyhow, I'm only sporadically a monster guy. So your mileage at this sort of attempt may vary.

Robert N. Emerson
Grand Master Delver CuDraoi at Delver's Square
Magister of Glen Ravin
The Emerson Papers

Ex Ignorantia Ad Sapientiam; E Luce Ad Tenebras


Well, that's my entry in. Of course, with exactly 10 words remaining, I had to fight the urge to include an OotS reference.

I actually have words left? Then allow me to say -

I'm still not convinced I made the right call.

Dark Archive Contributor

Moff Rimmer wrote:
I was planning on that. Just wanted to get things straight in my head ahead of time. And I was just wondering what the best OGL stuff out there is.

Right! I'd stick with Advanced Bestiary and Tome of Horrors, if I were you. Or even if I were giving out advice. Which I might be.

tav_behemoth wrote:
Would it be a good idea to think about using locations that could be represented with GameMastery maps - not necessarily calling them out in the 800 words, but keeping an eye on which could be worked into the plot?

If you see a GameMastery Item Card you like and want that to be the McGuffin, we're certainly okay with that (with one exception, but I'm not sure I'm allowed to talk about that). As far as maps and stuff... that's something we've also been debating. Keep it in mind, I guess, but don't stress out over making things fit. And don't bother wasting word count on pointing out that kind of thing. :)

Coridan wrote:
*cracks open his Book of Erotic Fantasy*

*rejects the proposal*

Coridan wrote:

Addendum: It would be really really awesome if us newbies got to see the outline to say 'Conquest of the Bloodsworn Vale' just to help us out.

The only way I've ever had to write an outline for official uses meant following all those crazy roman numeral and capital letter rules and such. I have no idea how to add maps into that equation =p

Actually, I would like that, too! I'm to write an adventure one of these days, and I have no idea what the outline should look like. The only other adventure I ever wrote for publication was only 5k words long so I didn't bother with an outline.

Coridan wrote:
I'd be absolutely stunned if they had another one before 4e came out, because they're gonna want to decide whether or not to switch.

If we switch to 4e (and no, I'm not saying we're going to switch), this is going to be one of the last 3e modules we put out.

NotJeff wrote:
I'd rather write a 4e module. The encounters seem much more engaging.

Me too!

Talion09 wrote:
Who is reviewing the queries? Is it a committee of Jason + Mike + Jeremy (ie. those that have GameMastery in their titles) or ???

Yes. For the first round we're going to do it with a blind-review format to make it fair (since Jason and I both have several friends apiece sending in their applications and we want to minimize bias).

Talion09 wrote:
hmm... maybe I should have asked this before I sent in the query... I could have incorporated more fiendish dinosaurs and gnome ninjas into the adventure... maybe created the "gninja" as the new monster, since ninja's aren't OGL... ;-)

The dinosaurs wouldn't help you (that's Jacobs's thing), but the gnome ninjas would. ;D

Chris Banks wrote:
Well, that's my entry in. Of course, with exactly 10 words remaining, I had to fight the urge to include an OotS reference.

It's probably a good idea that you fought the urge. I will reject anything with an OotS reference in it that I catch.


Can I ask what email address to expect notification from? I want to add it to my address book to make sure any (I hope) notification gets through my spam filter.


Also, Mike, you recommended staying away from non-OGL monsters. One of my monster ideas involved reinventing a monster from real earth mythology, but a similar monster exists in one of the Monster Manuals, should I still stay away from it then? I know that other monsters and gods with similar circumstances have been reinvented for Pathfinder/Gamemastery, but I want to know how big this issue is. I've already started rethinking the query without the monster in question, but I wanted to be sure.

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Sean, Minister of KtSP wrote:
Can I ask what email address to expect notification from? I want to add it to my address book to make sure any (I hope) notification gets through my spam filter.

Either submissions@paizo.com or jason.bulmahn@paizo.com.

Sean, Minister of KtSP wrote:
One of my monster ideas involved reinventing a monster from real earth mythology

That's fine. We actually like that, to be honest. :)


798 words and I'm done! Good luck to everyone - and for everyone who entered, I hope you buy the module! For everyone who hesitated, it was worth it just to write the submission - both to share in the creative process but also appreciate how hard our favourite authors work. I am really looking forward to hearing about everyone's ideas after the submissions deadline, and to future open submissions too!

Cheers

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Just my paranoid little voice in my head; is there any way to verify that our entry has been received? I'd hate to miss this shot due to an internet hiccup...


Rambling Scribe wrote:
Just my paranoid little voice in my head? Is there any way to verify that our entry has been received? I'd hate to miss this shot due to an internet hiccup...

hmm... good point. Its been a few days for me, and the email wasn't sent back undeliverable.... but now you have me thinking about it...


798 words and I hope I didn't screw up anything obvious. Just emailed it in.

Would there be a chance for feedback on the submissions if they make the top ten or are close to the top ten?

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Paizo Employee Director of Games

Rambling Scribe wrote:
Just my paranoid little voice in my head; is there any way to verify that our entry has been received? I'd hate to miss this shot due to an internet hiccup...

If this is a big concern for anyone here, please send me an email (using the same account) to the address below and I will do a confirmation run. Please make sure you do this before the deadline though... I know that does not give us much time (less than 12 hours), but I will run this check as soon as I get into work tomorrow (or.. ahem.. today.)

11 hours, 42 minutes remaining.

Jason Bulmahn
GameMastery Brand Manager

Paizo Employee Director of Games

clockworkjoe wrote:

798 words and I hope I didn't screw up anything obvious. Just emailed it in.

Would there be a chance for feedback on the submissions if they make the top ten or are close to the top ten?

-
Role Playing Public Radio
http://www.slangdesign.com/rppr

It is my plan to give feedback to all of the queries that get accepted. Due to the volume of queries, I doubt I will have the time to tackle that for all the queries. For those of you who are curious, we will announce the final number sometime after the first round is in the books.

Jason Bulmahn
GameMastery Brand Manager

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

I realize it's getting rather close to the deadline and I might not hear back before I have to hit the submit button, but:

1) If I plan to team up with a friend to complete the final module, should I put his name as a co-author on the open call submission? (I'm guessing yes.)

2) When exactly is it due in? The PDF says 11:59 AM, which would mean one minute before noon PST. I have seen a few people say PM in this thread, and midnight is the conventional deadline for mass submissions. I will assume noon until I hear otherwise, because it both earlier (and thus safer) and is the printed deadline, but if an extra 12 hours is allowed, I wouldn't mind hearing about it.

Edit:

Jason Bulman wrote:
11 hours, 42 minutes remaining.

Question 2 answered.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Ross Byers wrote:

I realize it's getting rather close to the deadline and I might not hear back before I have to hit the submit button, but:

1) If I plan to team up with a friend to complete the final module, should I put his name as a co-author on the open call submission? (I'm guessing yes.)

2) When exactly is it due in? The PDF says 11:59 AM, which would mean one minute before noon PST. I have seen a few people say PM in this thread, and midnight is the conventional deadline for mass submissions. I will assume noon until I hear otherwise, because it both earlier (and thus safer) and is the printed deadline, but if an extra 12 hours is allowed, I wouldn't mind hearing about it.

Edit:

Jason Bulman wrote:
11 hours, 42 minutes remaining.
Question 2 answered.

I can probably answer those two:

1) Yes; put your friend's name on the open call as co-author. Note that counts as both your submisison; you nor your friend can submit a 2nd adventure.

2) Send it in before noon. If your submission is so close to the wire that the difference between 11:59 and 12:00 is critical... well, let's just say that it's not a contest for who can submit their idea as close to the deadline as possible.

Put another way, there's no way for you to predict your clock being that close to ours. I wouldn't cut it that close to the wire if I were you... I'd try to beat the deadline by an hour at the least.


Jason Bulmahn wrote:
Rambling Scribe wrote:
Just my paranoid little voice in my head; is there any way to verify that our entry has been received? I'd hate to miss this shot due to an internet hiccup...

If this is a big concern for anyone here, please send me an email (using the same account) to the address below and I will do a confirmation run. Please make sure you do this before the deadline though... I know that does not give us much time (less than 12 hours), but I will run this check as soon as I get into work tomorrow (or.. ahem.. today.)

11 hours, 42 minutes remaining.

Jason Bulmahn
GameMastery Brand Manager

Um... I'm not seeing an email address there...

*I'm 99% sure my email went off without a hitch (I doublechecked it in my sent messages) but Rambling Scribe has me paranoid now...


James Jacobs wrote:


2) Send it in before noon. If your submission is so close to the wire that the difference between 11:59 and 12:00 is critical... well, let's just say that it's not a contest for who can submit their idea as close to the deadline as possible.

Put another way, there's no way for you to predict your clock being that close to ours. I wouldn't cut it that close to the wire if I were you... I'd try to beat the deadline by an hour at the least.

Another important thing is that emails are not instantaneous, at least not always.

I end up doing phone support with customers sometimes, and send them emails with information that just isn't really feasible to give out over the phone (ie. long urls, detailed intructions, etc)

You'd be surprised how many people think that as soon as they hit send it *always* arrives instantly in the other person's inbox.

In short, it can take the better part of an hour in some cases for an email to arrive. Not likely, but it can happen.

Liberty's Edge

Talion09 wrote:
Another important thing is that emails are not instantaneous, at least not always...

Blasted Send and Receive...frackin' Outlook...

Sovereign Court Contributor

Talion09 wrote:

Um... I'm not seeing an email address there...

*I'm 99% sure my email went off without a hitch (I doublechecked it in my sent messages) but Rambling Scribe has me paranoid now...

Mwahaha, my plan worked! Paranoia runs rampant like a red raven!

Jason's email address is on this page.

Scarab Sages

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber
Rambling Scribe wrote:
Talion09 wrote:

Um... I'm not seeing an email address there...

*I'm 99% sure my email went off without a hitch (I doublechecked it in my sent messages) but Rambling Scribe has me paranoid now...

Mwahaha, my plan worked! Paranoia runs rampant like a red raven!

Or THE Red Raven

It's a she.

Liberty's Edge

Talion09 wrote:

You'd be surprised how many people think that as soon as they hit send it *always* arrives instantly in the other person's inbox.

In short, it can take the better part of an hour in some cases for an email to arrive. Not likely, but it can happen.

We need to unclog the tubes...


Exactly 800 words. I am going to take 5 more minutes to proof-read it and then it is crossing fingers time.


Ar-har. Just over 400 words, in collaboration with someone else who will remain unnamed. That's what happens when you notice these things on the last day. Now I'm going to bed.

Liberty's Edge

When's the announcement of winner dude (or dudette, as the case may be--G. O. G. A. M. E. R.-Grrrrrlz) gonna hoppen mon.

RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

Now that I have slept (and submitted), I would like to thank James and Jason for their prompt replies at, what was it, 1 am PST? On a weekend.
I would however, that it was not the difference between 11:59 and 12:00 that I was trying to split, but rather between noon and midnight. 12 hours is an extra proofreading/rewrite cycle when working with a partner via email. Anyway, it's in your hands now. Good luck to everyone and I hope that I make the next round.


Rambling Scribe wrote:
Talion09 wrote:

Um... I'm not seeing an email address there...

*I'm 99% sure my email went off without a hitch (I doublechecked it in my sent messages) but Rambling Scribe has me paranoid now...

Mwahaha, my plan worked! Paranoia runs rampant like a red raven!

Jason's email address is on this page.

Thanks. (For the email address... not triggering my paranoia, lol)


Query sent.

789 words. Revising it was the hardest part. Good competition, everyone. May the best writer win.

Paizo Employee Director of Games

Sorry about spacing on the email address guys. It was a bit late...

For those of you who missed it... I can be reached at...

jason.bulmahn@paizo.com

As for those who sent in confirmation emails, I have now responded to all of them and every single one was confirmed (no missing queries yet).

Jason Bulmahn
GameMastery Brand Manager


Jason Bulmahn wrote:

Sorry about spacing on the email address guys. It was a bit late...

For those of you who missed it... I can be reached at...

jason.bulmahn@paizo.com

As for those who sent in confirmation emails, I have now responded to all of them and every single one was confirmed (no missing queries yet).

Jason Bulmahn
GameMastery Brand Manager

Thanks Jason, I just recieved your reply.

*And thanks again for being up at midnight on a Sunday to answer questions

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