Pathfinder Adventure Path #146: Cult of Cinders (Age of Ashes 2 of 6)

So, there is apparently a Soulbound Doll that has to be fought in game. It says that the doll can be found in the 6th Bestiary. Does anyone have any advice as to how to translate it to the 2E?

So, there is apparently a Soulbound Doll that has to be fought in game. It says that the doll can be found in the 6th Bestiary. Does anyone have any advice as to how to translate it to the 2E?

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

ShadowKni9ht97 wrote:

So, there is apparently a Soulbound Doll that has to be fought in game. It says that the doll can be found in the 6th Bestiary. Does anyone have any advice as to how to translate it to the 2E?

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

Please use page references! I know its cleaner and saves space, but it can be a pain to figure out. Or perhaps use some sort of index?

ShadowKni9ht97 wrote:

So, there is apparently a Soulbound Doll that has to be fought in game. It says that the doll can be found in the 6th Bestiary. Does anyone have any advice as to how to translate it to the 2E?

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

That is genuinely confusing... looking it up in the book with the explanation, it makes sense. However, intuitively, it does not. I thoroughly appreciate the page reference for the creatures in the adventures a ton because it allows me to immediately look them up without too much searching. It is a wonderful benefit, even if it does only save a few minutes. As a layman's suggestion, I would advise either completely removing the page referencing where the rules for elite creatures are because it creates that layer of confusion, or specify that the secondary page number is where the rules are at. For example,

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, Elite Rules 6)

That would have cleared up a lot of the confusion because it would not leave the reader with any room for misinterpretation. I originally wanted to put down "Modifiers" instead of "Rules", but then the word "Modifiers" with the number 6 could be misinterpreted as a modifier in and of itself. But the above use of words in the Adventure Path would have assisted me in understanding what the second number was for.

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

I suspect someone at Paizo already suggested to, but would adding a page marker not help on that issue?

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary p. 6, 304)

James Jacobs wrote:

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

I suspect someone at Paizo already suggested to, but would adding a page marker not help on that issue?

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary p. 6, 304)

That would work as well, but I'm not sure that's our editorial style—that's a question for the editors to look at.

ShadowKni9ht97 wrote:

So, there is apparently a Soulbound Doll that has to be fought in game. It says that the doll can be found in the 6th Bestiary. Does anyone have any advice as to how to translate it to the 2E?

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

No no no, have to say, the page reference and book reference is extremely useful.

That being said, the high number first is probably less confusing. Once I understood the italics though? had no issues.

3Doubloons wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

It's an elite soulbound doll, and the rules for elite are found on page 6 of the 2nd edition Bestiary.

We're trying to figure out how best to indicate this in future stat blocks. My preference would be like this:

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary 304, 6)

OR maybe we just don't cite the page reference for a creature at all...

I suspect someone at Paizo already suggested to, but would adding a page marker not help on that issue?

Elite Soulbound Doll (Pathfinder Bestiary p. 6, 304)

That would work as well, but I'm not sure that's our editorial style—that's a question for the editors to look at.

Not that this will be used, but in my personal notes I am uinsg: PF2eB1 pg6,304

Mainly because I know there will be a B2..3...4.. I also use PF2eCRB pg250

My players and I appreciate how African this feels.

Just curious, was this product released in a file-per-chapter format? All of my other AP issues show up both in single file and file-per-chapter format, but this one did not.

Did I just miss something?

Just curious, was this product released in a file-per-chapter format? All of my other AP issues show up both in single file and file-per-chapter format, but this one did not.

Did I just miss something?

Same for me, I suppose this is normal then.

On the main Paizo page, this is listed as an upcoming release. (I assume it was suppose to be book 2 of Strength of Thounsands)

On the main Paizo page, this is listed as an upcoming release. (I assume it was suppose to be book 2 of Strength of Thounsands)

Noticed that too. Perhaps a reprint run? Seems unlikely.