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Lilith, I will be sending you $60 for some artwork come this Friday. ~grins~ Hopefully that will help out a bit.

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Sorry to hear about your rough situation, Hugo. My only advice is to use coupons, my wife and I save $30+ a week on groceries and sometimes other essentials just on stuff we find in papers and print off the internet.

Try looking on this website too. I know some friends ot work off it in the past.
http://www.guru.com/emp/index.aspx


Sharoth wrote:
Hugo Solis wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
~thinks~ Hugo, would you like a loan? Payable ***ONLY*** after you have worked for 6 months at whatever job you get?

Oh man you really go beyond any expectations :D... You just made me smile on a "I can believe this" way, a good way... now you are making me blsuh :P

Again, I really appreciate the thought, but I'm not is such a desperate situation yet ;)

NOW STOP MAKING ME BLUSH!

*hides is shadows +25*

~WEG~ Well, why can't I pretend to be a nice guy until I get my hoard back. ~motions with my hand for my Half-Dragon Kobold Ninjas to go retrieve my hoard~ Go my minions! Retrieve my hoard! Be warry of the Ninja Frogs!

~grins~

Edit - Kobolds, even Half-Dragon ones are so easy to bully into submission!

So that's why he's always playing with those gecko stuffed animals!


~whaps Kobold Cleaver with a fresh fish for the Halibut ~ Shut up, minion!

~GRINS~


Sharoth wrote:

~whaps Kobold Cleaver with a fresh fish for the Halibut ~ Shut up, minion!

~GRINS~

Ow! Look, those beany babies sting when you hit people with them! Go back to your stable!


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Sharoth wrote:

~whaps Kobold Cleaver with a fresh fish for the Halibut ~ Shut up, minion!

~GRINS~

Ow! Look, those beany babies sting when you hit people with them! Go back to your stable!

~throws more "beany babies" at KC~ Take that you fiend!


What is it they say about watching people make sausage or the law? I think they said "don't", whoever "they" are. So maybe you should keep your eyes closed while operating that meatgrinder, Hugo. That's all the advice I've got.


Callous Jack wrote:

Sorry to hear about your rough situation, Hugo. My only advice is to use coupons, my wife and I save $30+ a week on groceries and sometimes other essentials just on stuff we find in papers and print off the internet.

Try looking on this website too. I know some friends ot work off it in the past.
http://www.guru.com/emp/index.aspx

hehehe, apparently you and courtfool think I live in the US... C'mon! Your No1 cultists of you both and you know nothing about me!!! :P


James Keegan wrote:
What is it they say about watching people make sausage or the law? I think they said "don't", whoever "they" are. So maybe you should keep your eyes closed while operating that meatgrinder, Hugo. That's all the advice I've got.

If I do that down here in Mex I'd be tottally screwed...specially without med insurance :D


Hugo Solis wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:

Sorry to hear about your rough situation, Hugo. My only advice is to use coupons, my wife and I save $30+ a week on groceries and sometimes other essentials just on stuff we find in papers and print off the internet.

Try looking on this website too. I know some friends ot work off it in the past.
http://www.guru.com/emp/index.aspx

hehehe, apparently you and courtfool think I live in the US... C'mon! Your No1 cultists of you both and you know nothing about me!!! :P

Then maybe you need to move to the US!!! ~grins~ Join US. Join US. ;-P


Sharoth wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Sharoth wrote:

~whaps Kobold Cleaver with a fresh fish for the Halibut ~ Shut up, minion!

~GRINS~

Ow! Look, those beany babies sting when you hit people with them! Go back to your stable!
~throws more "beany babies" at KC~ Take that you fiend!

*Sets fire to pile of beany babies behind Sharoth*


~stabs KC's foot with a +5 undead kobold bane sword~ Take that vile creature!


Sharoth wrote:
~stabs KC's foot with a +5 undead kobold bane sword~ Take that vile creature!

*Watches as dragon mutt attempts to stab with knife, but slips in own excrement*

Heh...comedy gold.


A new day starts and I'm totally renewed from yesterday's good vibe, advice and support.

Again, thanks guys, I appreciate all the kind words.

You totally rock!


Hugo Solis wrote:
You totally rock!

Duuuuuuude!

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Hugo Solis wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Hugo, I know that you are married, but I have a question. Do you have any kids?
No, Thank gosh... but the wife is pushing that button... I don't think it will be long before she runs out of patience...

Draw her some?

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Yikes. I remember when I was out of grad school and couldn't get a real job for a year and a half. That sucked.

Folks have already offered ample advice. If it's any additional help...

If you're an illustrator, expand your repertoire to other things, even other boring and practical things like logo design and the like, and do freelance work if you can find it. Offer to teach classes or take on private students. Also, I know my town (is in the US, but I can't imagine this is restricted to America) offers opportunities like festivals and farmers markets where artists are allowed to sell their stuff. There are often craft coops or collectives that help support each other and fund fairs at which to sell ones' work.

Foodwise--my big staple was rice and beans (usually canned beans like kidneys and black beans and garbanzos). They are frack-all cheap, they are HEALTHY (combined, you get protein and fiber and some essential vitamins) and easy to make taste different with a few different spices or other easy, cheap ingredients like fresh onions and garlic and canned tomatoes.

Look for root vegetables--these are cheap and keep a long time as long as you store them properly.

Cut meat in your diet down to a minimum. It's expensive. Rice and beans and similar things will give you a complete protein and make you feel full, plus they keep for a long time.

And drink water. Drink lots of water--because you should anyway, because it's free (apart from any utilities you pay), because it will fill your belly, because it will counteract overdose of sodium from cheap processed foods, because it will sate your thirst more fully and longer than any purchased beverage. If you can't stand the taste of plain water, get a little concentrated juice or lemon or something and put a few drops in, or buy some cheap tea to make.

Good luck.

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The Eldritch Mr. Shiny wrote:
Hugo Solis wrote:

And yet I cling to my Pathfinder superscription...how sick is that?

Any "hang to it/cut it loose" suggestions?

** spoiler omitted **

I'm basically in the same boat as you, man.

Yep. I was out of work for three month, savings drained, and, just when I started working again, the gf gets laid off.

Eh, my friend has a sub, so I'm not completely out of the loop, but I do miss seeing that box on the doorstep every month...


~gives a VERY innocent look~ I know a way to make some money, Hugo. You could sell you wife on e-bay! ~gives a wicked grin and runs~

j/k! j/k!


Sharoth wrote:

~gives a VERY innocent look~ I know a way to make some money, Hugo. You could sell you wife on e-bay! ~gives a wicked grin and runs~

j/k! j/k!

LOL! His new website address would be changed to pimpfrog.com. j/k


Gawd! I wish I could help. *idea bubble, runs off*


DeathQuaker wrote:


If you're an illustrator, expand your repertoire to other things, even other boring and practical things like logo design and the like, and do freelance work if you can find it. Offer to teach classes or take on private students. Also, I know my town (is in the US, but I can't imagine this is restricted to America) offers opportunities like festivals and farmers markets where artists are allowed to sell their stuff. There are often craft coops or collectives that help support each other and fund fairs at which to sell ones' work.

Actually I have started to do that, but since I'm pretty much starting from scratch, I need to build up portfolio.

I have started to do layout and vector art, but I'm yet to promote it. I'd love to start going to tiny expos and exhibitions but honestly the stuff I doo is "too fantasy" to be apreciated by the geneal audience :P
Also I'd like to do logos too but the necesity of such is sooooo small... Most tiny companies do their own logo (which is like self-medicating!) :(

I'm working on a few more projects that I'm yet to announce that I hope will bring a tad more work.

What keeps me quite occupied and is good -in the long run- is Public Relations... You will see me "goofing" here and on the chatroom a lot! But this is exatly what has got me to where I am, more than my actual artsy skills, for those are still a long way from pro, but the PR has got me lots of work and some considerable promotion. So it keeps me away from the drawing board a lot, but its what brings the commissions up... Complicated :P

Thanks for the advice!


Sharoth wrote:

~gives a VERY innocent look~ I know a way to make some money, Hugo. You could sell you wife on e-bay! ~gives a wicked grin and runs~

j/k! j/k!

Hehehe, depending on the biders (rich and handsome)she may actually accept the proposition... She's not very happy right now due the economic situration...but that's a more private matter ;P

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Hugo Solis wrote:
Sharoth wrote:

~gives a VERY innocent look~ I know a way to make some money, Hugo. You could sell you wife on e-bay! ~gives a wicked grin and runs~

j/k! j/k!

Hehehe, depending on the biders (rich and handsome)she may actually accept the proposition... She's not very happy right now due the economic situration...but that's a more private matter ;P

Show her a photo of me. Let her know it can be worse. ;-)


Hugo Solis wrote:
She's not very happy right now due the economic situration...

Is she cute? I like those Hispanic chicks.


*beats paizonians away from the wife with a stick*


Hugo Solis wrote:
*beats paizonians away from the wife with a stick*

~runs from the crazy stick wielding frog~

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Hugo Solis wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:

Sorry to hear about your rough situation, Hugo. My only advice is to use coupons, my wife and I save $30+ a week on groceries and sometimes other essentials just on stuff we find in papers and print off the internet.

Try looking on this website too. I know some friends ot work off it in the past.
http://www.guru.com/emp/index.aspx

hehehe, apparently you and courtfool think I live in the US... C'mon! Your No1 cultists of you both and you know nothing about me!!! :P

Hey, I knew you lived in Mexico, I just assumed you had coupons down there... :)

(The site I posted has people from around the world on it so no excuses!)


Hey Hugo, how much do you get if someone buys one of your prints from deviantART?


CourtFool wrote:
Hey Hugo, how much do you get if someone buys one of your prints from deviantART?

I think is around 10% of the cost of the print. You can get more vaue for your $ if you commission me ;P


Callous Jack wrote:
Hugo Solis wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:

Sorry to hear about your rough situation, Hugo. My only advice is to use coupons, my wife and I save $30+ a week on groceries and sometimes other essentials just on stuff we find in papers and print off the internet.

Try looking on this website too. I know some friends ot work off it in the past.
http://www.guru.com/emp/index.aspx

hehehe, apparently you and courtfool think I live in the US... C'mon! Your No1 cultists of you both and you know nothing about me!!! :P

Hey, I knew you lived in Mexico, I just assumed you had coupons down there... :)

(The site I posted has people from around the world on it so no excuses!)

No coupons down here :P


The cooking at home is a definite... and a garden if you are careful with how you go about it and plan ahead.

Try shopping at thrift stores... honestly, my casual clothes were 5 to 10 times more expensive (literally) than my dressier stuff... and I'm talking jeans and a t-shirt compared to Calvin Klein, Ralph Lauren, and Doc Marten brown oxfords (virtually brand new, the lady at the shop said a $1 a pair for shoes and I made her take all my loose change in addition to the $1... they had been worn maybe once or twice at best and were $89 shoes new). I'm not joking, I can buy name brand dress clothes... usually with tags still attached, right off the rack for $1 or $2 per item... granted, selection is hit or miss and I hot wash everything before wearing (or sanitize in the case of shoes)... but you get the point. We've got a lot of wasteful rich people in town I guess.

Pasta is cheap... and better for you than hot dogs.

On the note of hot dogs, what happened to the day when you could buy two hot dogs for $1 when out in town? The ones at the grocery store are now nearly $3 for two... I will not pay that for hot dogs. If I'm out and hungry I'll usually snag a cheap loaf of italian bread and eat on that while I'm driving.


...last note, ironically, I hated Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, and all of that stuff previously... until I needed some nicer clothes for work and thought "what the heck, it's brand new with tags still and the thrift store wants $1 for it"...now I've become a bit of a clothes snob. It's hard to buy a $10 Faded Glory shirt at Walmart when I know if I hold off and keep checking the thrift store each week then something comparable but better will probably hit the racks by the end of the month.

(final word on that... I've found independent thrift stores (usually a front end fundraiser for a non-profit charity), church yard sales, and general yard sales to be much cheaper than the Goodwill stores... sometimes Goodwill is decent on their prices, other times I can actually buy the item new if I look around in a department or "dollar" store)

PS- Always, always hot wash anything you buy... consider dry cleaning expenses before buying an item that requires such care.


Hugo Solis wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
Hey Hugo, how much do you get if someone buys one of your prints from deviantART?
I think is around 10% of the cost of the print. You can get more value for your $ if you commission me ;P

Ohhhhh!!!!! Kinky! Do you do by the hour or by the night? Who will bring the whips and chains? ~grins and runs~

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Sharoth wrote:
Hugo Solis wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
Hey Hugo, how much do you get if someone buys one of your prints from deviantART?
I think is around 10% of the cost of the print. You can get more value for your $ if you commission me ;P
Ohhhhh!!!!! Kinky! Do you do by the hour or by the night? Who will bring the whips and chains? ~grins and runs~

If you're smart (and on the receiving end) you bring your own. For the same reasons mentioned above about thrift stores.


Matthew Morris wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Hugo Solis wrote:
CourtFool wrote:
Hey Hugo, how much do you get if someone buys one of your prints from deviantART?
I think is around 10% of the cost of the print. You can get more value for your $ if you commission me ;P
Ohhhhh!!!!! Kinky! Do you do by the hour or by the night? Who will bring the whips and chains? ~grins and runs~
If you're smart (and on the receiving end) you bring your own. For the same reasons mentioned above about thrift stores.

Sounds like Hugo has to get another website, illbeurbiach4money.com. Wait, that sounds like what I do for a living... ;)

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Jack Hammer wrote:
Sounds like Hugo has to get another website, illbeurbiach4money.com.

I thought he already had that...

;-)

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Hugo Solis wrote:
The suscription is my current "my personal luxury thing" and I'm keeping it mostly under the excuse that its for "work" purposes...You know, to stay on the loop. The thing is that when I get depressed I shop and eat to "boost me up" but then I find me on a deeper problem than before :P You know how self-destructive behavior is, al about rings, what goes around... I've been buying minis like crazy ever since when I started trying to illustrate for a living and I can tell you is not a smart thing at all...but so far the compulsive behavior beats the reasoning.

man... I really understand this :S

no problem for venting sometimes we all need some of it... really

i stopped the subscriptions but i still some of the pdfs :S
sometimes I divided the expenses of the sucription between a friend that just wanted the pdf :P

then he stoped liking Pathfinder.. it took a hit on my economy, that is when i canceled the subscriptions finaly

I know the books are great, but maybe just keeping the APs and the Pathfinder would be a good idea, the rest you could get on PDF (of course I shamless in the fact that i print some of them on the office... but nothing from Legacy of Fire... to much orange in the background :S)

yeah... I know I am sick

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are this the real Butterfrog gninjas?


Hugo Solis wrote:

And yet I cling to my Pathfinder superscription...how sick is that?

Any "hang to it/cut it loose" suggestions?

** spoiler omitted **

One of my favorites: Mac & Cheese with Tuna and Peas (all mixed together). About $3 for a big old batch loaded with carbs and protein... great bachelor food. Throw on a bit of seasoned salt for a little extra zing. I lived on this for years and still make up a batch now and then (not sure if the long-term effect was entirely beneficial). Kids love it.

Also, sell the TV - who needs it with the internet all this reading to do?


I had hotdogs again today, yummi! :P

I think a home made hot dog goes around $.6 so I think is at cheap as it goes :D Cupnoodles go aroun $.4 but that's no meal... maybe dinner :P

Some 8 years back I used to shop "designer" clothes every now and then... now it hurts me to buy shirts over $20 :P.

I do have an extra TV, but I'll be surprised if I get $40 for it :P...

I've made a rate-sheet to pimp myself, I'll put it up next week in case someone wants some art or design done. No trade in flesh... yet ;P Also next week I'll open up a "promo" to get me a tablet..I've been too long without one, gotta put an end to that.


Guys!

I was checking Deviant art prints and they are quite expensive... I can have posters done down here with the same quality (guaranteed!) and ship'em up (on proper poster tubes) on a cheaper price!!! (I think :P) Lemme find out how much does shipping cost and I'll email interested people.

Please shoot me an email if you want a print and I'll combe back with a quotations ASAP!

Spoiler:
hugo@butterfrog.com


http://www.kraftfoods.com has some good ideas. They like to plug name brands, but you can always use what's available.

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Man can live indefinitely on potatoes and the occasional piece of fish.

It's not fun, but it has kept Russians going through innumerable winters and kept the French alive through the white terror.


Hugo Solis wrote:
Please shoot me an email if you want a print and I'll combe back with a quotations ASAP!

Bam!

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Hugo Solis wrote:

Guys!

I was checking Deviant art prints and they are quite expensive... I can have posters done down here with the same quality (guaranteed!) and ship'em up (on proper poster tubes) on a cheaper price!!! (I think :P) Lemme find out how much does shipping cost and I'll email interested people.

Please shoot me an email if you want a print and I'll combe back with a quotations ASAP!

** spoiler omitted **

maybe its cheaper because they print them in US :P

but its an interesting notion... very interesting

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Hugo Solis wrote:

And yet I cling to my Pathfinder superscription...how sick is that?

Any "hang to it/cut it loose" suggestions?

Rice + Frozen Veg + real meat.


How's it holding up, Hugo? I was cleaning up, using the "3 year rule" and I thought of you. I have some Dragon mags and "Tower of the Last Baron" I could bare to part with, if you're interested. 'Cause I know I'd love a present in the mail. I also need an excuse to drive to town every other day--I'm newly licenced!

Oh, and I've got a host of recipes if you'd like them. I'll have a bit of time to myself this weekend.

Shoot me an e-mail if you're interested.


GreatKhanArtist wrote:
Shoot me an e-mail if you're interested.

Interested as in buying those from you? I'm lost here :P Gimme your email!

I just found out how much does a print+shipping cost. Not bad. If someone have printed on plotter and know the rates, please share the costs :P

Also, Next week I'll start a comish "promo" to raise $ and get me a tablet. Must not continue without one... My last color work was quite satisfactory and I'm eager to see how is it with a tablet. Nwah's working wonders with his tablet and I want to join his club :P

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