Pathfinder Player Companion: Divine Anthology (PFRPG)

This is the 2nd "Anthology" book, a little early to speak of a line.
Also, Arcane Anthology was mediocre.

This is the 2nd "Anthology" book, a little early to speak of a line.

Fair point.

Also, Arcane Anthology was mediocre.

With all respect, that is your opinion. I quite liked Arcane Anthology.

Based on the reviews, I'm not alone. ^_^

Kal,

I liked it! :D

I think mediocre is a more than fair assessment

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A wealth of new options for characters from arcanists to bards and from clerics to paladins {. . .}

Does this mean no love for Bloodragers, Brawlers, Cavaliers, or Rangers through Wizards?

Well I think rangers will get some lover, Unarcane,

But the others? Probably not.

Yep we need an occult anthology next. Would love some extra support and fun tools for psychic casters. =)

As for this book, meditative spells sound interesting...

Yep I think Occult Anthology and maybe Dark Fantasy Anthology.

Wouldn't it be Psychic Anthology? But yes, I certainly hope we see one, regardless of the name. Not sure what a Dark Fantasy Anthology would contain, but I think some thematic anthologies could be interesting. Holy Anthology for a book all about [good] descriptor spells, or perhaps if that's too narrow, one for all alignment descriptor spells. Anthology of the Mind for mind-affecting spells? Though that does get away from [X Anthology] if they want to stick with that over [Anthology of X]...

I would love some information on the wendo, and the Thousand Gods of Vudra. Any chance of this?

Eh, Occult Anthology sounds cooler.

And we are dealing with books dealing with books.

Eh, Occult Anthology sounds cooler.

And we are dealing with books dealing with books.

Yay! awesome! I got Rysky's approval! :)

Marco Massoudi wrote:

This is the 2nd "Anthology" book, a little early to speak of a line.

Fair point.

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Also, Arcane Anthology was mediocre.

With all respect, that is your opinion. I quite liked Arcane Anthology.

Based on the reviews, I'm not alone. ^_^

No, you most definitely are not alone. I loved Arcane Anthology.

In my opinion, the whole Companion line has not been 'mediocre' for awhile now...it's why I subscribed. Some of the most innovative and creative Pathfinder fun comes from this line of books, IMO.

I love that there is a coatl on the cover!

I love that there is a coatl on the cover!

Me too. I recommend those two calmly and quietly back up the way they came...or perhaps show some respect and lower their weapons at the very least. Don't poke the flying serpent.

Anyone else notice that the Companion art is getting better and better?! Sometimes I pick up the book and just stare at the cover a moment before I open it.

Four,

I think the cover art depends on your own views on art. But some of them have been quite good, no question.

Right now I just want more info on what paladins might get out of this book.

Honestly, I'm really hoping that material for non-Divine classes is extremely minimal, and it's 90% focused on Clerics and Paladins, (Warpriests, Inquisitors, and Druids as well).

Some Cleric Spells that Oracles can not take would be amazing.

Honestly, I'm really hoping that material for non-Divine classes is extremely minimal, and it's 90% focused on Clerics and Paladins, (Warpriests, Inquisitors, and Druids as well).

Some Cleric Spells that Oracles can not take would be amazing.

Judging by this: "A wealth of new options for characters from arcanists to bards and from clerics to paladins, including the mysteries of apocryphal subdomains and new paladin oaths.

Hey 90% of what I'm hoping for involves Paladins. :p ;)

I really hope to see a theurgy wizard archetype or school.

That's what a bad wizard archetype(the name which escapes me) is for.

That's what a bad wizard archetype(the name which escapes me) is for.

I don't believe there is one unless it's third party. I was thinking more along the lines of a white mage/scholarly divine caster. Could maybe give a small selection of divine spells to the wizard spell list.

I'm pretty sure there's something. It's very recent - maybe in Horror Adventures? The name "faith wizard" comes to mind...

I'm pretty sure there's something. It's very recent - maybe in Horror Adventures? The name "faith wizard" comes to mind...

There was the hallowed necromancer but that was less a white mage and more a undead slayer mage. Less about divine magics and more about using necromancy to kill the undead. Then there's the undead master but that's really far from a white mage. And the only other one in horror adventures was the elder mythos scholar but that one was focused on killing aberrations. I like the hallowed necromancer but I was thinking more like an archivist-like archetype. Not an archetype who can only cast the healing-line of spells to solely damage undead.

White Mage Arcanist archetype is the closest we've gotten to an arcane spellcaster (that wasn't a bard) that could cast healing magics.

Hallowed Necromancer is more for those people that like necromantic effects (like say scare and fear) but don't want to create undead.

*also thinks it's weird how a poster is named after PC elf wizard he made for Jade Regent...*

White Mage Arcanist archetype is the closest we've gotten to an arcane spellcaster (that wasn't a bard) that could cast healing magics.

Hallowed Necromancer is more for those people that like necromantic effects (like say scare and fear) but don't want to create undead.

*also thinks it's weird how a poster is named after PC elf wizard he made for Jade Regent...*

Witches can cast cure spells, and they even have several archetypes that make them better at it. (Hex channeler and hedge witch)

Mm! Good point Alex! I forgot about witches!

Still, I think the previous poster was looking specifically at wizard archetypes.

So...we'll see.

Mm! Good point Alex! I forgot about witches!

Still, I think the previous poster was looking specifically at wizard archetypes.

So...we'll see.

I can dream.

I'm pretty sure there's something. It's very recent - maybe in Horror Adventures? The name "faith wizard" comes to mind...

Found it! It wasn't a wizard archetype at all, but an arcane discovery.

Removed a handful of off-topic posts.

Spontaneous druid?
Lay on hands for clerics druids, rangers or other classes?

I prefer divine casting so thrill me! ^^

I see a lot of the conversation going on, and I'm hearing the cries for Wizards to get better access to the Cleric spells, particularly healing, but listen. What if we got a Cleric that casts with INT? I know it's not the exact same, but there's a lot of reasons that that too is nice. And this would maybe be just the place for it to show up. Even maybe limited to Nethys worshippers? Or all deities with knowledge domain. But maybe limited to Nethys worshippers.

We've got several divine casters that use INT already, but they're both just 6th level casting. It's time. Time for a Cleric who studies for their spells. The Living Grimoire (Inquisitor) and the Reliquarian (Occultist) are hella neat, but it's just a void in my heart that is waiting to be filled.

A light based Kineticist would be kind of cool, the opposite of the void elemental type.

Rylden,

I'm not sure Kineticists will be getting much love from this book. Psychic Anthology probably yes.

Rylden,

I'm not sure Kineticists will be getting much love from this book. Psychic Anthology probably yes.

Considering kineticists are not even mentioned, I would be very surprised if something associated with psychic/occult gets much out of this book.

I'm mostly checking to see if there is a fevor option or amateur fevor option for other classes -- cleric - oracle

Fevor? Why? I mean isn't that what Weapon of the God feat does?

Correction Fervor not fevor
I don't want or need the paladin-like healing but the ability to cast spells on oneself as a free or swift action

Oh that! I thought you meant like swift action to imbue a weapon.

What if we got a Cleric that casts with INT?

[SNIP}
Time for a Cleric who studies for their spells.

I'm all for it! I love the idea of divine casters who study rituals of faith, using scholarship and holy texts, and spend their off-time arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Int-based druidic natural philosophers, who record their observations and hand down their ogham script on bark 'scrolls' or inscribe them onto standing stones, could also be a thing, as well as Int-based court herald / aristocratic bards, who learn a smattering of arcane lore the old fashioned way, *by learning,* (picking up magic the same way they pick up mundane skills, or dabble in swordplay), instead of maybe having some sort of dragon blood or something.

The inflexible connection of casting class to casting stat is a sacred cow I'd love to turn into burgers, and not just for Wildblooded Empyreal or Sage Sorcerers.

So..what you want Int based casting Paladins too, Set?

So..what you want Int based casting Paladins too, Set?

*I'm* not immediately seeing a way that 'makes sense' to me, but then again, I'm not terribly interested in Paladins.

If there's no *balance* reason to forbid it, and it makes sense to someone else (or they have a good enough justification for it!), who am I to stand in the way just because 'it's not the way we used to do it!'

(Paladin is an interesting example, since it's the one core class that *has already* changed it's casting stat, from Wisdom to Charisma.)

But Clerics and Druids and Witches, for examples, using any of the three casting stats, make sense. Witches that form a deep spiritual connection with primal forces and use Wisdom? Scholarly Clerical archivists using Intelligence and recording the rites and practices of faith that work for them in big prayer books? Druids who use force of personality (Charisma) to soothe, or enrage, the spirits of the natural world, whether animal, vegetable or elemental? Sure!

I was just asking Set, because while yes, it went from Wisdom to Charisma (since much of the paladin's power is CHA based), this might make those who DON"T dump their stat in Int to have an incentive to have like a 14 int or something like it.

Personally I'd love an Int based cleric. It would make it so much easier to play a Theurge.

I love have divine spell books for int based Cleric.